Sci/Tech Anti-malarial Drugs unsafe for use to treat COVID

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MartyLife

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Feb 7, 2020
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As summarized by a very good friend of mine - a doctor on the front lines:

"More evidence against the use of HC in covid -registry data from 671 hospitals, 93,000 total hospitalized patients -14 888 patients were in the treatment groups (1868 received chloroquine, 3783 received chloroquine with a macrolide, 3016 received hydroxychloroquine, and 6221 received hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide Confound adjusted mortality:
  • -9.3% control group
  • -18% HC
  • -23% HC+AZ
  • -19% C -22% C+ AZ
Ventricular arrhythmias
  • -0.3% control
  • -6% HC
  • -8% HC +AZ
  • -4% C
  • -6% C + AZ
The arrhythmia piece seems most telling- one could argue for selection bias as a cause for 2x higher mortality with treatment, but that still doesn't account for 10-25x higher rates of arrhythmia But what could it hurt. . . "
 

regular john

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May 21, 2015
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"New Study Confirms HCL Safe As Far As We Know"
please mate wtf is your point?

Here is a preliminary list of scientific studies/reports/editorials that suggest that chloroquine is not a safe drug to treat Covid indiscriminately:


it could all change in the next hour and a new study suggest otherwise and eventually chloroquine could be proven without doubt to be the cure to all evils of the world. it doesn't change the fact that politicians that are pushing for it right now are irresponsibly exposing people to unnecessary risk.
 

MC Gusto

Freeloading Rusty
Jan 11, 2016
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Wasn’t that most recent study showing no positive effects published in a highly respected medical journal ?
 
Jun 28, 2016
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please mate wtf is your point?

Here is a preliminary list of scientific studies/reports/editorials that suggest that chloroquine is not a safe drug to treat Covid indiscriminately:


it could all change in the next hour and a new study suggest otherwise and eventually chloroquine could be proven without doubt to be the cure to all evils of the world. it doesn't change the fact that politicians that are pushing for it right now are irresponsibly exposing people to unnecessary risk.
the side of effect of death from heart arrhythmia has never actually happened, AFAIK. And all of those editorials/studies are saying the same thing - we need randomized trials of mildly and asymptomatic patients to understand the proper therapy for each patient. But the NIH is over-stating the risk of HLC and over-stating the efficacy of Remdesivr, and it's not an accident. I think there's good evidence that HCL can be used prophylactically or at the early onset of symptoms and lower the risk of ICU-care. It's not a cure-all, but studying why it works when it works is important to understanding how to combat the virus.