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So he's lost his mind here: Rousey’s coach: Holm wasn’t getting the better of Ronda in the striking | The MMA Community Forum


But check this article and lets look at this game plan:
Coach: Holly Holm is 'going to be running' against Ronda Rousey - MMA Fighting


"Why I had Ronda box from the beginning more instead of kicking was because we know you can box your way into a clinch much easier than kicking your way into a clinch," Tarverdyan said. "We know in boxing, they clinch up also, but nobody is afraid of being taken down. Holly is not gonna try to box with us. Because if Holly is in a boxing distance, then that clinch happens. Holly doesn't want that to happen. Holly is going to be running. Holly is going to try to keep it at a kicking distance. We're going to be ready for everything."

"We know she moves," Tarverdyan said. "She's gonna be moving in both directions. We're aware of that. The distance is going to be a bit different, so we've gotta be sharp on our feet, meaning that it's not about the kicking, just quick, explosive feet, so we can get her where we want her to be. And as we're pressing we have to be aware of those counterpunches or counter kicks coming in."

"Both of them are tough," the coach said. "Holly Holm is a different fighter. Holly Holm likes to pick her shots. Holly Holm likes to not be all over the place. She's a bit cautious of not being taken down. She's a bit more polished. She knows how to shoot a bit precise. We have to be careful of that. She knows how to counterpunch better. Miesha does not know how to counterpunch. She swings her head down when she comes forward, but does she know how to counterpunch? Absolutely not. Which is nothing taken away from her, because we have a lot of champions out there that don't know how to counterpunch."

While Holm has been a boxer since she was a teenager, Tarverdyan actually believes Rousey would defeat her in a straight up boxing match. He swears by Rousey's improvement in that part of the MMA game.

"If the question is, does Ronda need to prove that she's a boxer?" Tarverdyan said. "I wish [Holm] does box with us, because Ronda could box. Ronda has knockout punching power in both hands. It doesn't matter what hand she touches you with -- it's dangerous. She's proved that with the last fight."

That said, Tarverdyan is not too confident that Holm will make this a boxing match despite her prowess.

"To prove a point is she gonna go out there and box with us, Holly?" he said. "I wish she does that and Ronda can show her skills. But I doubt it. Regardless of what she does, how much she runs, we know that she can't hide."






So basically, Holly's movement is the only thing he was right about. She's gonna move a lot. Great job trainer man.
 

Team Bisping

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Wow. Edmund your delusional. A high percentage of the fight outcome should rest on his shoulders.
 

CaffeineBomb

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Wow, it's like he watched any of Holms' MMA fights or boxing matches and saw the future!

Thing that confuses the crap out of me is even if it was boxing, something he (allegedly) knows how to train, that fight would have gone almost the exact same way! Except Ronda probably wouldn't have gotten the merciful knockout that left her only needing stitches.

Never mind the fact he appears to have taught Rousey any defense at all. It's like he decided at the start of training her that all she needed was to rush into the clinch even if she has to take a few shots so she could use the judo that he has no clue about and doesn't have to train her in and has never bothered teaching her anything else.
 

Yossarian

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He's rationalizing his own coaching rather than he is talking about Ronda's skills. He did the same with the post fight remarks... He's in defensive mode.
 

Qat

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I'm confused, the first sentence would insinuate that Ronda actually has a kicking-game. Is he really believing that?
 

ShakaSway

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Damn. Really shows his ability as a coach. Has been said a lot before, but everyone that has gone to his camp has digressed terribly.

Travis Browne just flat out refuses to kick, and gassed hard against Schaub before he finished him, then not sure what the hell happened to Ellenberger.

Ronda needs a new camp asap. I can understand when one coach's specialty is outclassed by their fighter's opponent, such as GSP doing what he did to AKA, but not like that. Zero defense, and seemed to panic under actual damage. With how much they were talking about how she's in there with world class boxers, I have to ask again, who are these boxers?
 

Leigh

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So basically, Holly's movement is the only thing he was right about. She's gonna move a lot. Great job trainer man.
Which is bizarre, because Ronda explained Holly's game plane on that US TV chat show
 

Obi-Wan-In-A-Million

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Soooo, the plan was for the judo grappler to run up and box with the world champion boxer because he didn't think that the boxer would actually, you know, box?
 

ShakaSway

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Soooo, the plan was for the judo grappler to run up and box with the world champion boxer because he didn't think that the boxer would actually, you know, box?
He didn't think she would punch, kick, elbow, knee, take it to the ground, or even clinch. Believed she would do absolutely nothing, but run.
 

Obi-Wan-In-A-Million

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He didn't think she would punch, kick, elbow, knee, take it to the ground, or even clinch. Believed she would do absolutely nothing, but run.
That's pretty much what it looked like. Ronda looked on the verge crying out "Foul! She hit me back!"
 

Left Hook Larry

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He didn't think she would punch, kick, elbow, knee, take it to the ground, or even clinch. Believed she would do absolutely nothing, but run.
She ran alright. Ran through Ronda like a mac truck without brakes.
 

Narcosynthesis

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Ronda predicted perfectly what holly was going to do back in October. She said, "I feel like she's gonna try and like, keep distance and keep far away from me and get me frustrated until a point I'll make a mistake and she can try and kick me in the head."

And Edmund thought it was wise to have her chase her around the octagon. Edmund is an idiot.
 

Leigh

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Ronda predicted perfectly what holly was going to do back in October. She said, "I feel like she's gonna try and like, keep distance and keep far away from me and get me frustrated until a point I'll make a mistake and she can try and kick me in the head."

And Edmund thought it was wise to have her chase her around the octagon. Edmund is an idiot.
Agreed but Ronda also bears a huge amount of responsibility. She chose him.
 

Wild

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He's either delusional or totally incompetent. Either way, Ronda needs to pack her shit & get her ass w/ a reputable coach. That new gym in Denver, where TJ is training would likely do wonders for her. Train stand-up with Bang a couple days a week out there as well.
 

darkness

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He's either delusional or totally incompetent. Either way, Ronda needs to pack her shit & get her ass w/ a reputable coach. That new gym in Denver, where TJ is training would likely do wonders for her. Train stand-up with Bang a couple days a week out there as well.
bang thinks women are only good for one thing. he didn't get his nickname for nothing

sent from your mother's house
 

Sweets

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bang thinks women are only good for one thing. he didn't get his nickname for nothing

sent from your mother's house
People say that but it's Ronda Rousey it'd be hard to turn her down if she wanted help, purely from a financial standpoint.
 

Van Terminator

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At this point, I think Chocula is probably ranked below Sensei Seagal on the list of reputable MMA coaches.

Although at least Dana agreed with his analysis of how the fight went down :smile: