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BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
60,547
56,268
And that number was fake?
The number was correct for Italy at the time. Fast forward two months and we now know that those numbers don't apply across all demographics, which we thought they would (at least more so than they have) and in many places the numbers not only didn't get that high, but we also realized that where it got that high was with very specific demographics. Ie, in the area where I am pretty much every Covid death has been someone over 80 and in a retirement/nursing home.

We have new data, and new information we should be applying it and moving forward as best we can. Instead we're in a holding pattern and anyone who suggests we get out of it is shouted down.
 

Rambo John J

Eats things that would make a Billy Goat Puke
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
71,542
71,465
#Country,TotalTotalMortality
OtherCasesDeathsRate
World
5,165,913​
332,825​
6.4%​
1​
USA
1,614,100​
96,037​
5.9%​
2​
Russia
317,554​
3,099​
1.0%​
3​
Brazil
296,113​
19,156​
6.5%​
4​
Spain
280,117​
27,940​
10.0%​
5​
UK
250,908​
36,042​
14.4%​
6​
Italy
228,006​
32,486​
14.2%​
7​
France
181,826​
28,215​
15.5%​
8​
Germany
178,925​
8,284​
4.6%​
9​
Turkey
153,548​
4,249​
2.8%​
10​
Iran
129,341​
7,249​
5.6%​
11​
India
118,226​
3,584​
3.0%​
12​
Peru
108,769​
3,148​
2.9%​
13​
China
82,967​
4,634​
5.6%​
14​
Canada
81,279​
6,145​
7.6%​
15​
Saudi Arabia
65,077​
351​
0.5%​
16​
Chile
57,581​
589​
1.0%​
17​
Mexico
56,594​
6,090​
10.8%​
18​
Belgium
56,235​
9,186​
16.3%​
19​
Pakistan
48,091​
1,017​
2.1%​
20​
Netherlands
44,700​
5,775​
12.9%​
21​
Qatar
38,651​
17​
0.0%​
22​
Ecuador
35,306​
2,939​
8.3%​
23​
Belarus
33,371​
185​
0.6%​
24​
Sweden
32,172​
3,871​
12.0%​
25​
Switzerland
30,694​
1,898​
6.2%​
26​
Portugal
29,912​
1,277​
4.3%​
27​
Singapore
29,812​
23​
0.1%​
28​
Bangladesh
28,511​
408​
1.4%​
29​
UAE
26,898​
237​
0.9%​
30​
Ireland
24,391​
1,583​
6.5%​
31​
Indonesia
20,162​
1,278​
6.3%​
32​
Poland
20,143​
972​
4.8%​
33​
Ukraine
19,706​
579​
2.9%​
34​
South Africa
19,137​
369​
1.9%​
35​
Kuwait
18,609​
129​
0.7%​
36​
Colombia
17,687​
630​
3.6%​
37​
Romania
17,585​
1,156​
6.6%​
38​
Israel
16,683​
279​
1.7%​
39​
Austria
16,404​
633​
3.9%​
40​
Japan
16,385​
771​
4.7%​
41​
Egypt
15,003​
696​
4.6%​
42​
Dominican Republic
13,657​
448​
3.3%​
43​
Philippines
13,434​
846​
6.3%​
44​
Denmark
11,182​
561​
5.0%​
45​
S. Korea
11,122​
264​
2.4%​
46​
Serbia
10,919​
237​
2.2%​
47​
Panama
9,977​
287​
2.9%​
48​
Argentina
9,283​
404​
4.4%​
49​
Czechia
8,743​
306​
3.5%​
50​
Afghanistan
8,676​
193​
2.2%​
51​
Norway
8,301​
235​
2.8%​
52​
Bahrain
8,174​
12​
0.1%​
53​
Algeria
7,728​
575​
7.4%​
54​
Kazakhstan
7,234​
35​
0.5%​
55​
Morocco
7,211​
196​
2.7%​
56​
Australia
7,081​
100​
1.4%​
57​
Malaysia
7,059​
114​
1.6%​
58​
Moldova
6,704​
233​
3.5%​
59​
Nigeria
6,677​
202​
3.0%​
60​
Finland
6,493​
306​
4.7%​
61​
Oman
6,370​
30​
0.5%​
62​
Ghana
6,269​
31​
0.5%​
63​
Armenia
5,606​
70​
1.2%​
64​
Bolivia
4,919​
199​
4.0%​
65​
Luxembourg
3,980​
109​
2.7%​
66​
Iraq
3,877​
140​
3.6%​
67​
Azerbaijan
3,749​
44​
1.2%​
68​
Cameroon
3,733​
146​
3.9%​
69​
Hungary
3,641​
473​
13.0%​
70​
Sudan
3,138​
121​
3.9%​
71​
Honduras
3,100​
151​
4.9%​
72​
Thailand
3,037​
56​
1.8%​
73​
Uzbekistan
2,964​
13​
0.4%​
74​
Guinea
2,863​
18​
0.6%​
75​
Greece
2,853​
168​
5.9%​
76​
Senegal
2,812​
32​
1.1%​
77​
Bosnia and Herzegovina
2,350​
140​
6.0%​
78​
Tajikistan
2,350​
44​
1.9%​
79​
Bulgaria
2,331​
120​
5.1%​
80​
Guatemala
2,265​
45​
2.0%​
81​
Croatia
2,237​
97​
4.3%​
82​
Ivory Coast
2,231​
29​
1.3%​
83​
Djibouti
2,047​
10​
0.5%​
84​
Cuba
1,908​
80​
4.2%​
85​
North Macedonia
1,898​
111​
5.8%​
86​
DRC
1,835​
61​
3.3%​
87​
Iceland
1,803​
10​
0.6%​
88​
Estonia
1,800​
64​
3.6%​
89​
El Salvador
1,640​
32​
2.0%​
90​
Lithuania
1,593​
61​
3.8%​
91​
Somalia
1,573​
61​
3.9%​
92​
Gabon
1,567​
12​
0.8%​
93​
New Zealand
1,503​
21​
1.4%​
94​
Slovakia
1,502​
28​
1.9%​
95​
Mayotte
1,475​
19​
1.3%​
96​
Slovenia
1,468​
106​
7.2%​
97​
Kyrgyzstan
1,313​
14​
1.1%​
98​
Maldives
1,216​
4​
0.3%​
99​
Kenya
1,109​
50​
4.5%​
100​
Guinea-Bissau
1,089​
6​
0.6%​
101​
Hong Kong
1,064​
4​
0.4%​
102​
Sri Lanka
1,048​
9​
0.9%​
103​
Tunisia
1,045​
47​
4.5%​
104​
Latvia
1,025​
22​
2.1%​
105​
Lebanon
1,024​
26​
2.5%​
106​
Albania
969​
31​
3.2%​
107​
Mali
931​
55​
5.9%​
108​
Niger
924​
60​
6.5%​
109​
Cyprus
923​
17​
1.8%​
110​
Costa Rica
903​
10​
1.1%​
111​
Equatorial Guinea
903​
10​
1.1%​
112​
Zambia
866​
7​
0.8%​
113​
Paraguay
836​
11​
1.3%​
114​
Venezuela
824​
10​
1.2%​
115​
Burkina Faso
812​
52​
6.4%​
116​
Andorra
762​
51​
6.7%​
117​
Uruguay
746​
20​
2.7%​
118​
Georgia
721​
12​
1.7%​
119​
Diamond Princess
712​
13​
1.8%​
120​
Jordan
684​
9​
1.3%​
121​
Haiti
663​
22​
3.3%​
122​
San Marino
658​
41​
6.2%​
123​
Malta
599​
6​
1.0%​
124​
Chad
588​
58​
9.9%​
125​
Sierra Leone
570​
34​
6.0%​
126​
Channel Islands
558​
45​
8.1%​
127​
Jamaica
529​
9​
1.7%​
128​
Tanzania
509​
21​
4.1%​
129​
South Sudan
481​
4​
0.8%​
130​
Congo
469​
16​
3.4%​
131​
Nepal
457​
3​
0.7%​
132​
Réunion
449​
1​
0.2%​
133​
Taiwan
441​
7​
1.6%​
134​
CAR
436​
0.0%​
135​
Palestine
423​
2​
0.5%​
136​
Madagascar
405​
2​
0.5%​
137​
Ethiopia
399​
5​
1.3%​
138​
Cabo Verde
356​
3​
0.8%​
139​
Togo
354​
12​
3.4%​
140​
Isle of Man
336​
24​
7.1%​
141​
Mauritius
332​
10​
3.0%​
142​
Montenegro
324​
9​
2.8%​
143​
Vietnam
324​
0.0%​
144​
Rwanda
320​
0.0%​
145​
Nicaragua
279​
17​
6.1%​
146​
Sao Tome and Principe
251​
8​
3.2%​
147​
Liberia
240​
23​
9.6%​
148​
French Guiana
237​
1​
0.4%​
149​
Eswatini
220​
2​
0.9%​
150​
Myanmar
199​
6​
3.0%​
151​
Yemen
197​
33​
16.8%​
152​
Martinique
192​
14​
7.3%​
153​
Faeroe Islands
187​
0.0%​
154​
Mauritania
173​
4​
2.3%​
155​
Mozambique
162​
0.0%​
156​
Guadeloupe
155​
13​
8.4%​
157​
Gibraltar
151​
0.0%​
158​
Uganda
145​
0.0%​
159​
Brunei
141​
1​
0.7%​
160​
Mongolia
140​
0.0%​
161​
Benin
135​
3​
2.2%​
162​
Guyana
125​
10​
8.0%​
163​
Bermuda
125​
9​
7.2%​
164​
Cambodia
123​
0.0%​
165​
Trinidad and Tobago
116​
8​
6.9%​
166​
Cayman Islands
111​
1​
0.9%​
167​
Aruba
101​
3​
3.0%​
168​
Bahamas
97​
11​
11.3%​
169​
Monaco
97​
4​
4.1%​
170​
Barbados
90​
7​
7.8%​
171​
Liechtenstein
82​
1​
1.2%​
172​
Sint Maarten
77​
15​
19.5%​
173​
Malawi
72​
3​
4.2%​
174​
Libya
71​
3​
4.2%​
175​
French Polynesia
60​
0.0%​
176​
Angola
58​
3​
5.2%​
177​
Syria
58​
3​
5.2%​
178​
Zimbabwe
48​
4​
8.3%​
179​
Macao
45​
0.0%​
180​
Burundi
42​
1​
2.4%​
181​
Saint Martin
40​
3​
7.5%​
182​
Eritrea
39​
0.0%​
183​
Comoros
34​
1​
2.9%​
184​
Botswana
29​
1​
3.4%​
185​
Antigua and Barbuda
25​
3​
12.0%​
186​
Gambia
24​
1​
4.2%​
187​
Timor-Leste
24​
0.0%​
188​
Grenada
22​
0.0%​
189​
Bhutan
21​
0.0%​
190​
Laos
19​
0.0%​
191​
Belize
18​
2​
11.1%​
192​
Fiji
18​
0.0%​
193​
Namibia
18​
0.0%​
194​
New Caledonia
18​
0.0%​
195​
Saint Lucia
18​
0.0%​
196​
St. Vincent Grenadines
18​
0.0%​
197​
Curaçao
16​
1​
6.3%​
198​
Dominica
16​
0.0%​
199​
Saint Kitts and Nevis
15​
0.0%​
200​
Falkland Islands
13​
0.0%​
201​
Turks and Caicos
12​
1​
8.3%​
202​
Vatican City
12​
0.0%​
203​
Montserrat
11​
1​
9.1%​
204​
Suriname
11​
1​
9.1%​
205​
Greenland
11​
0.0%​
206​
Seychelles
11​
0.0%​
207​
MS Zaandam
9​
2​
22.2%​
208​
British Virgin Islands
8​
1​
12.5%​
209​
Papua New Guinea
8​
0.0%​
210​
Caribbean Netherlands
6​
0.0%​
211​
St. Barth
6​
0.0%​
212​
Western Sahara
6​
0.0%​
213​
Anguilla
3​
0.0%​
214​
Lesotho
1​
0.0%​
215​
Saint Pierre Miquelon
1​
0.0%​
TLDR