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Le Chat Noir

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I don't believe you are so dim. I think you are just attention seeking.

Your system is broken.

A socialist model such as Germany would be seen as communism in your blinkered, brainwashed eyes.

Same as Sweden, France, Ireland, Austria, New Zealand.

LMAO, you ignore a century of history because it rips apart you socialist faith and I'm dim? Ahhhh poor, stupid, boy.

Once again you resort to calling capitalist countries "socialist" because all truly socialist countries have failed.
These examples are capitalist economies that have government intervention and programs with burdensome tax rate, but they do not control the private sector which innovates, provides goods and services, and funds everything.

For people like you that can't bear personal responsibility and have no desire to improve and don't value freedom, being taxed at 60%+ is fine as long as Gov Co acts like your Daddy and takes care of you from cradle to grave.

The problem is you people think government will not continue to expand, but it will and you will end up fully socialist, and you will fail yet again....because you refuse to learn from history.

This is 101 level shit and you still struggle with it and that's sad.



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FINGERS

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Oh I have no problem with that.


You will do your standard left wing attack the source, as if you have the intellect to dispute the facts, and we'll all laugh at your broke drunk ass trying to sound intelligent.

Now, instead of thinking you're in a position to ask question, tell everyone what the results have been when socialists break these laws.
Go ahead, tell everyone about the mass imprisonment for operating on the black market because the state can't provide enough food.
Tell everyone about the state nationalizing industries and then driving them into the ground.
You can finish by explaining the total economic collapse of every socialist nation in history.

We're waiting.....



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well of course I’m going to check the source.

im hardly going to take the word of a fully paid up magatard am I?

that would be stupid. Or as your orange daddy says. Stoopid.

And quel surprise!

this is an ultra right wing think tank that consists of 21 people who are......drum roll please......

Trump supporters!

lol. You are being played.

another swing and a miss champ.

keep trying though.
 

FINGERS

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LMAO, you ignore a century of history because it rips apart you socialist faith and I'm dim? Ahhhh poor, stupid, boy.

Once again you resort to calling capitalist countries "socialist" because all truly socialist countries have failed.
These examples are capitalist economies that have government intervention and programs with burdensome tax rate, but they do not control the private sector which innovates, provides goods and services, and funds everything.

For people like you that can't bear personal responsibility and have no desire to improve and don't value freedom, being taxed at 60%+ is fine as long as Gov Co acts like your Daddy and takes care of you from cradle to grave.

The problem is you people think government will not continue to expand, but it will and you will end up fully socialist, and you will fail yet again....because you refuse to learn from history.

This is 101 level shit and you still struggle with it and that's sad.



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your global knowledge is your fundamental problem.

you have none. You were brought up like North Koreans who have to sing the star spangled banner every morning before what passes as education starts in your country.

you were spoon fed a diet of lies every day.

its no wonder why you love Trump.

i don’t blame you. I pity you.

most if not all of French industry and utilities is government owned.

from sncf to edf.

id say look it up but I know you can’t. Sncfis one of the best railway systems in the world and edf the best maker of nuclear power plants.

then you have airbus. How’s Boeing doing btw, have they gone through their latest government bailout yet?

you talk out of your arse with spoon fed doctrine North Koreans would be embarrassed to spout.

i bet you think Trump could have golf major if he wasn’t president or going bankrupt every week.

tragic scenes
 

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In one post you agree America has failed at capitalism, numerous times. The current American economy is FAR from an unregulated free market economy... then in the next post you again point to America as your example of a successful example of a capitalist free market. You can’t have it both ways and maintain any shred of credibility.

America is $25,000,000,000,000 in debt and vastly increasing that debt yearly. Multiple industry bail-outs, citizens living off handouts. Most Americans are one or two missed pay cheque’s away from going broke.. How long will it be sustainable? If it wasn’t for the debt you will be pushing into your kids, America’s mutated version of capitalism would be dead by now. The idea of current America as a free market is factually incorrect.

So again, I will ask. I am not asking for specifics on how you see America is better than those previously mentioned failed socialist states. What I am asking for is, a (or a few) examples of this pure capitalist state you keep pining for and romanticizing as historic fact?

Not sure where you got the ideas I am emotionally attached to the idea of socialism. I have stated it isnt the answer. What I have been stating is, what you are describing as the best is not what America subscribes to... so if you want to keep up capitalism cheerleading you should probably find a more successful and factually accurate example?

No I never said America has failed at capitalism. You, being a typical dishonest lefty, attempted to restate my position by saying that...also known as lying.

Yes you can have an imperfect version of a system that is still more successful than a failed system. Capitalism with all it's faults and government intervention is still far more successful than socialist countries....it's not a debate it's a historic fact.

You condemn the debt created by government and then turn around and condemn capitalism? LMAO, it's absurd. Government expansion into every facet of life is part of your leftist philosophy and the reason for the debt. On the conservative side we're more than happy to cut Government back to a minimum and with it the tax rate. This is very simple and you clearly don't get it.

Once again, you are playing stupid and lying. I never romanticized pure capitalism. Then you sit there like an idiot and say prove America has done better than a failed socialist state. Are you so stupid that you can't see our medical advances, IT, auto industries, have gone on to be the best in the world while the USSR and all the Eastern Bloc governments no longer exist? Cuba still using cars from the 50's? LOL, grow up.

So it seems you can admit socialism is a complete failure at it's core...a destructive cancer even. So tell us why you would want to introduce a cancer into a healthy system?




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Le Chat Noir

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well of course I’m going to check the source.

im hardly going to take the word of a fully paid up magatard am I?

that would be stupid. Or as your orange daddy says. Stoopid.

And quel surprise!

this is an ultra right wing think tank that consists of 21 people who are......drum roll please......

Trump supporters!

lol. You are being played.

another swing and a miss champ.

keep trying though.

You mean a group that is historically and economically accurate?
Presenting arguments you can't counter?
So you attack the source as if a mindless drunk like you has any credibility?




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Le Chat Noir

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your global knowledge is your fundamental problem.

you have none. You were brought up like North Koreans who have to sing the star spangled banner every morning before what passes as education starts in your country.

you were spoon fed a diet of lies every day.

its no wonder why you love Trump.

i don’t blame you. I pity you.

most if not all of French industry and utilities is government owned.

from sncf to edf.

id say look it up but I know you can’t. Sncfis one of the best railway systems in the world and edf the best maker of nuclear power plants.

then you have airbus. How’s Boeing doing btw, have they gone through their latest government bailout yet?

you talk out of your arse with spoon fed doctrine North Koreans would be embarrassed to spout.

i bet you think Trump could have golf major if he wasn’t president or going bankrupt every week.

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So you start out by saying nothing, just Trump, Maga, blah, blah, blah.

You ignore that whole messy history thing...which of course you must.

Then you on to point at a few French programs that you think are just nifty! LOL
Somehow you ignore the French people protesting in the streets because of the most burdensome taxes in the world?
Their ridiculous unemployment levels and pathetic economic growth?

My poor stupid boy, you are the brainwashed lemming and you need to come to terms with that fact.
Is a century of ongoing evidence wrong or are you?




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FINGERS

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You mean a group that is historically and economically accurate?
Presenting arguments you can't counter?
So you attack the source as if a mindless drunk like you has any credibility?




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They forecast America would be 3 trillion dollars in debt just 20 years after Clinton left the economy balanced?

Really?

Magatard gonna Magatard I guess.

You do understand America is 3 trillion in debt? Your perfect model is fucked.

If you had children their children's childrens children's children could pay tax at the current rate and still be in debt.

Why can't you see what you espouse is all smoke and mirrors?

The shame is that society could be leveled up and you wouldn't lose anything.

What is it about making life fair for all that scares you?

No one is going to take away what you have earned
 

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So you start out by saying nothing, just Trump, Maga, blah, blah, blah.

You ignore that whole messy history thing...which of course you must.

Then you on to point at a few French programs that you think are just nifty! LOL
Somehow you ignore the French people protesting in the streets because of the most burdensome taxes in the world?
Their ridiculous unemployment levels and pathetic economic growth?

My poor stupid boy, you are the brainwashed lemming and you need to come to terms with that fact.
Is a century of ongoing evidence wrong or are you?




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You idiot.

The yellow jackets are protesting against the very opposite to what you are saying.

This is pointless.

You are a moron.

You are only worth talking to when I'm drunk and you amuse me.

Your utter retarded view of how you understand life is fucking annoying sober.

You are a cretin.

Go and read a book. Lol. That's a joke BTW.

Fuck me I reckon you must be the thickest person on here. You win because you actually think you are smart.

Deary me. See you later when I've had a few magatard
 

FINGERS

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Here is a nice article to begin you education.


You are welcome!



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OK. You got me.

One last post to you as you typed it before I am ignoring you sober.

France is the most visited place on earth. More tourism than anywhere on the planet.

Think about the size of the States. Your myriad of adventure parks. Cities... Culture... Lol... Activities and it pales in comparison to France. It does to the UK too but let's just concentrate on France.

People vote with their wallets and feet.

France is doing just fine.

Toodles
 

Le Chat Noir

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They forecast America would be 3 trillion dollars in debt just 20 years after Clinton left the economy balanced?

Really?

Magatard gonna Magatard I guess.

You do understand America is 3 trillion in debt? Your perfect model is fucked.

If you had children their children's childrens children's children could pay tax at the current rate and still be in debt.

Why can't you see what you espouse is all smoke and mirrors?

The shame is that society could be leveled up and you wouldn't lose anything.

What is it about making life fair for all that scares you?

No one is going to take away what you have earned

Government created that debt and your solution is more government? You are an incredibly stupid person.
People tell me you are also immoral.

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Le Chat Noir

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OK. You got me.

One last post to you as you typed it before I am ignoring you sober.

France is the most visited place on earth. More tourism than anywhere on the planet.

Think about the size of the States. Your myriad of adventure parks. Cities... Culture... Lol... Activities and it pales in comparison to France. It does to the UK too but let's just concentrate on France.

People vote with their wallets and feet.

France is doing just fine.

Toodles

You're reduced to ranting about tourism?
People visit France for their art, architecture, food, wine....all created by the private sector.

Why do you need government to be your provider? How weak of a boy are you?



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Freeloading Rusty

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Yes you can have an imperfect version of a system that is still more successful than a failed system. Capitalism with all it's faults and government intervention is still far more successful than socialist countries.
I had to stop reading here.That’s some funny shit.

By your continued lack of a response, I will just assume you can’t provide a proper example.
 

Le Chat Noir

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I had to stop reading here.That’s some funny shit.

By your continued lack of a response, I will just assume you can’t provide a proper example.
Of course you have to stop reading, you have nothing to stand on.
My response is a century of America becoming more prosperous and advanced, while the socialist states all failed.
You asked for one example, I gave you our thriving auto industry that has been continuously advancing while socialist Cuba
is holding cars from the 50's together with duct tape.

America's military has become preeminent, while the USSR and all Eastern bloc countries collapsed.

We can go on with computers, medical advances, etc... but we both know all you will do is continue asking stupid questions.

The thing you're missing is the onus is on you, not me. You are the one advocating leftist solutions. Yet they always fail....so tell us how this time will somehow be different.

Thanks for playing, but you lose......again.



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Le Chat Noir

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Educate yourselves....I'm embarrassed for you.




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Freeloading Rusty

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You asked for one example, I gave you our thriving auto industry that has been continuously advancing
Are you talking about the auto industry that has received billions and billions of dollars in taxpayer funded bail outs? The same auto industry that is stating it will go bankrupt if it doesnt get yet another big government bail out package?

A truly successful capitalistic economy based on a free market would shun government intervention or bail outs. A true free market economy should correct itself no matter what.
 

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Are you talking about the auto industry that has received billions and billions of dollars in taxpayer funded bail outs? The same auto industry that is stating it will go bankrupt if it doesnt get yet another big government bail out package?

A truly successful capitalistic economy based on a free market would shun government intervention or bail outs. A true free market economy should correct itself no matter what.
You mean a bailout caused by the government forcing everyone to shut down?

Once again, yes I'm not for bailouts.

Pointing out faults in a system doesn't make your solution viable.

How is the auto industry in any socialist country? Oh that's right...they all collapsed.

Please forgive me, I forgot.



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Freeloading Rusty

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How about that...
Trump's 'Obamagate' conspiracy theory just got blown to pieces

report on Wednesday blew up that allegation when it revealed that Flynn's name was never "masked" in the first place
The Obamagate conspiracy theory also accuses former President Barack Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden of having advance knowledge of the FBI's plans to interview Flynn about his communications with Kislyak.

But a newly declassified email appears to debunk that claim as well.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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You mean a bailout caused by the government forcing everyone to shut down?

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What about the other bail-outs from when the market crashed and the great capitalist economy tanked under (R)George Bush Jr?

$81 billion dollars of tax payer money to the auto industry between 2009-2014 just to avoid total failure.

And the American auto companies are not actually competitive in the world markets, selling subpar gas guzzlers with high maintenance costs.

Include in the latest rounds of bail outs and America produces the most expensive cars in the world.

Great, you don’t support bail-outs, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t been propping up the American economy over the last 12 years.

Keep the hits coming, this is just too easy.
 
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Le Chat Noir

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What about the other bail-outs from when the market crashed and the great capitalist economy tanked under (R)George Bush Jr?

$81 billion dollars of tax payer money to the auto industry between 2009-2014 just to avoid total failure.

And the American auto companies are not actually competitive in the world markets, selling subpar gas guzzlers with high maintenance costs.

Include in the latest rounds of bail outs and America produces the most expensive cars in the world.

Great, you don’t support bail-outs, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t been propping up the American economy over the last 12 years.

Keep the hits coming, this is just too easy.

What's the easy part? You ranting about a straw man I already said I didn't support?

Be it American, Japanese, German, etc...it's the private sector making advances and providing what the public wants....not the government. Same with medical advances, IT, agritech, etc.... We both know this, yet you are somehow trying to claim a victory? LOL

You are throwing out meaningless critiques, yet your leftist governments have produced nothing lasting.
You're forced to admit socialism is a failure, so what do you want? Just to bitch, like a 14 year old girl ""wahhh the world's not perfect!"

You seem obsessed with portraying America as the bad guy, which is typical programming for leftists. Is that your only thing? America bad, so something else must work.

Grow up, state your position and back it with real world results.



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