The incredibly padded record of Tony Ferguson

[SongExotic2]

Lando Vanatta was a late replacement, Tony was preparing for Chiesa who is a tall jujitsu guy, not some short head moving striker. doesn't even matter, Tony got the finish.

plus why would he fight like that against Conor or Khabib? Tony's not fixated into one fighting style, he also switches stance quite a bit.

Don't feed the troll,

He know Tony would fuck Connie up bad

 

[member 3289]

plus why would he fight like that against Conor or Khabib?

Because it's how he fights against every opponent. Almost zero head movement, shitty TDD, likes fighting off his back.

 

[sparkuri]

Because it's how he fights against every opponent. Almost zero head movement, shitty TDD, likes fighting off his back.

And wins them ALL

 

[kneeblock]

Cool. Now do Fedor. Soultakers take souls.

 

[BenAskrensStrikingcoach]

You can do this with any top fighter and be left with a handful of truely elite wins.

Key is he beat them all.

The UFC fucked the light weight division up big time the last few years, it is sorting its self out now that the constipated dump that was McGregors title reign has finally been flushed.

Tony is elite, his shot is fucking earned, put some respect on his name pieman.

 

[Sheepdog]

*cough*

 

[Sheepdog]

Agreed about Castillo.

Even the RDA fight, which is easily his best win - I don't want to go too far, but the reality is that the fight was sandwiched between RDA coming off a KO loss and then leaving the division. Clearly RDA himself didn't feel he was right at 155 any more.

For those of us who have some idea about what we are looking at, you watch Tony fight you see an incredibly hittable guy with many technical flaws. You've seen him get dropped by Lando Vannata. You've seen him get picked apart by Michael Johnson as a younger fighter and you haven't seen dramatic technical improvements since. And yes you've seen him beat Barboza, but you had to see him get smashed before he did it.

Then people try to convince you that your lying eyes are deceiving you - "he's just just 'unorthodox', his record proves it". But his record just really isn't as great as people think it is.

It's almost like this guy actually knows what he is talking about.

 

[Miesha's Taint]

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[Sheepdog]

View: https://www.facebook.com/178702392149447/posts/3309904195695902/

Yes, he is a genuinely very mentally ill man. Good fighter though, just not as great as people think he is.

 

[tang]

It's almost like this guy actually knows what he is talking about.

you're trippin if you think Tony's overrated just going off of the win / loss factor

Tony caught him with that upper cut, could have finished Gaethje, but bell saved him

all those shots Tony took, most guys would have folded waaay earlier, especially Conor, he's got no heart. Conor's gotta either be dominating or he chokes big time

Tony was prepping for not just a wrestler but Khabib, Gaethje fights in total different style

 

[member 3289]

*cough*

Lol @ five drunk ratings for your OP. After reading my comments on page 1 (where I agree with you that Ferg is overrated), it's pretty clear that Australia and Florida are intellectual world capitals.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Lol @ five drunk ratings for your OP. After reading my comments on page 1 (where I agree with you that Ferg is overrated), it's pretty clear that Australia and Florida are intellectual world capitals.

There's a direct correlation between intelligence and destroying your local ecosystem.

 

[RaginCajun]

Lol @ five drunk ratings for your OP. After reading my comments on page 1 (where I agree with you that Ferg is overrated), it's pretty clear that Australia and Florida are intellectual world capitals.

 

[member 3289]

The University of Melbourne and the University of Miami are the modern-day Harvard and Yale.

 

[Sheepdog]

The University of Melbourne and the University of Miami are the modern-day Harvard and Yale.

I mean I went to a university IN Melbourne just not the OF Melbourne...for a semester. It was actually in the top 500 ranked universities in the world...in liberal arts.

 

[member 3289]

I mean I went to a university IN Melbourne just not the OF Melbourne...for a semester. It was actually in the top 500 ranked universities in the world...in liberal arts.

And I have driven through the University of Miami campus at least 3 times. We're like Einstein and Freud

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

And I have driven through the University of Miami campus at least 3 times. We're like Einstein and Freud

I can honestly say that I feel privileged just to be able to see it.

 

[Sheepdog]

And I have driven through the University of Miami campus at least 3 times. We're like Einstein and Freud

Which one am I? The guy who fantasizes about getting rid of his Dad so he can fuck his mother? Or this Australian icon?

 

[Jdog93]

you're trippin if you think Tony's overrated just going off of the win / loss factor

Tony caught him with that upper cut, could have finished Gaethje, but bell saved him

all those shots Tony took, most guys would have folded waaay earlier, especially Conor, he's got no heart. Conor's gotta either be dominating or he chokes big time

Tony was prepping for not just a wrestler but Khabib, Gaethje fights in total different style

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

you're trippin if you think Tony's overrated just going off of the win / loss factor

Did he explicitly call Tony overrated? Because there is a difference between overrated and having a padded record.

 

[Onetrickpony]

While there is a lot of sympathy for Tony Ferguson being denied a title shot for so many years, the reality is that Tony has never beaten any other current member of the UFC LW top 5.

Aside from beating RDA, who himself has still gone 5-5 in his last 10 fights, Tony's UFC career has mostly consisted of beating shot fighters, subsequently exposed hype trains or journymen.

Cowboy and Pettis have each lost 6 of their last 10 while Kevin Lee is 2-3 in his last 5. Barboza is 5-6 in his last 11, Josh Thomson had lost 4/6 before losing to Tony. Tibau went 5-6 in last 11 UFC fights, with Tony being his 4th last fight. Yves Edwards went 4-6-1 in his 11-fight final UFC stint when he lost to Tony.

As for the career journeymen, Vannata is 2-4-2 in the UFC, Trujillo went 6-4-1 in his UFC career, Castillo went 7-7, Kikuno 2-3, Rio 1-3, Nijem 5-5, Aaron Riley 3-6.

Tony's one UFC loss was to a guy who is 11-11 in his UFC career, another .500 fighter.

When Tony beat Kevin Lee for the interim belt, Lee's best wins were over Chiesa and Trinaldo. We now know that Lee really had no business fighting for that belt in the first place.

Only one of Tony's victims has subsequently gone on to even fight for an interim title, that being RDA once, with 0 winning one and 0 even fighting for a proper title. Compare that with Conor, where Aldo, Max and Poirier still went on to become title holders after losing to Conor. Alvarez (who KOd RDA before Tony beat him) would also at least KO a current top 5er subsequent to losing to Conor.

Basically, either Tony's opponents never were legit title contenders, or had stopped being so by the time he fought them.

So don't feel too sorry for Ferg.

 

[Sheepdog]

Did he explicitly call Tony overrated? Because there is a difference between overrated and having a padded record.

There's a logical connection between the two - the purpose of a padded record in boxing is to get people to overrate someone.

But people think 'overrated' means that you are calling someone a bum. The main point was that people were acting like he was cleaning out the division, when he had actually completely avoided the 5 best fighters in it since the RDA fight. That was causing them to 'overrate' him.

That's just a fact and it's telling how negatively people reacted to it.

 

[Sheepdog]

Good thread continuity, but other than that, how very sad.

You're going to call the guy who was proven right stupid? That's pretty embarrassing.

 

[tang]

Did he explicitly call Tony overrated? Because there is a difference between overrated and having a padded record.

IDK... you tell me based on his posts, if it means one or the other, or both

 

[tang]

But people think 'overrated' means that you are calling someone a bum. The main point was that people were acting like he was cleaning out the division, when he had actually completely avoided the 5 best fighters in it since the RDA fight. That was causing them to 'overrate' him.

yea, wanting to fight Khabib is avoiding the best fighters

failed thread bro