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ThatOneDude

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To the long list of troubling developments amid the coronavirus crisis, add the Michigan state legislature’s decision to cancel its May 14 session.
The lawmakers did so as far-right opponents of Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s lockdown policies, many armed with rifles, gathered for a possible repeat of their chaotic April 30 invasion of the state capitol.
Legally, the legislature could have done little to prevent it: Openly carrying long guns in the building is perfectly permissible under Michigan law.

North Carolina bans such displays in its legislature (and other public buildings). It also forbids carrying weapons at political demonstrations. Otherwise, though, “open carry” is generally the law.

And so one of the men in paramilitary garb who have paraded through downtown Raleigh on three occasions since May 1 armed with various weapons — including a menacing but apparently inoperable rocket-launcher — claimed he was just out getting “some exercise,” and police backed off.

Thus do right-wing extremists exploit America’s lax gun laws for political gain. Of course, the open carrying of rifles or handguns is a recipe for intimidation and potentially deadly confusion, even when not politically motivated. If shots ring out on a street full of armed pedestrians, how are the police supposed to identify the culprit?
Yet 44 states allow open carry, subject to a hodgepodge of restrictions. Michigan allows open carry in the capitol, but not casinos. Exhibiting a weapon is okay, but not “brandishing” it — except in “self-defense.”

Open carry may be benign, even necessary, in limited situations: hunters carrying their weapons home from a day’s shooting, for example.
On the whole, though, no state worthy of the name can permit exceptions to its monopoly on legitimate deployment of armed force like those in Michigan or North Carolina. Surely no sensible interpretation of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms would say a state must tolerate them.

The Supreme Court transformed constitutional law with its twin 2008 and 2010 rulings interpreting the amendment to protect an individual right to gun possession for self-defense.
The court has not yet clarified the full extent of this right, and on April 27 it deflected an effort by gun-rights advocates to establish a constitutional right to carry guns outside the home. The court dismissed a suit against New York City’s ban on taking licensed handguns outside the city as moot because the ban had been repealed.

Next, the court must decide whether to address a backlog of 10 gun-rights cases on its docket, including two from New Jersey and Maryland in which plaintiffs challenge laws that limit outside-the-home firearm possession to those who can demonstrate a particular need for it.
“Perhaps the single most important unresolved Second Amendment question . . . is whether the Second Amendment secures an individual right to bear arms for self-defense outside the home,” the plaintiff’s brief notes.

They have a point. If the court hears the New Jersey and Maryland cases, and invalidates the two states’ laws, it will likely affect similar regulations in 12 other states, including Hawaii.

The latter state’s law requiring a license for open-carry was struck down by a three-judge panel of the San Francisco-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in 2018 — though that ruling has not taken effect pending reconsideration by an expanded group of 9th Circuit judges.
Certainly the court could undermine bans on open carry of handguns that still do exist in jurisdictions containing 30 percent of the U.S. population — California, Florida, Illinois, New York, South Carolina and the District.
Gun-rights advocates portray themselves as heirs to the Founders, protecting individual freedom from George III-like tyranny.

Yet a parallel, equally strong, U.S. legal tradition recognizes that the Constitution is also a shield against anarchy.

In 1886, the Supreme Court upheld an Illinois law prohibiting a self-styled “Education and Defense Society” from parading with arms in Chicago, despite the German immigrant socialist group’s claims of benign intent.
“To deny the power would be to deny the right of the state . . . to suppress armed mobs bent on riot and rapine,” the court noted.
The ruling in that case, Illinois v. Presser, has never been overturned, and in his 2008 opinion for the court establishing an individual right to firearm possession, Justice Antonin Scalia disavowed any intention to do so.
In 1967, Republican then-Gov. Ronald Reagan signed California’s open-carry ban into law, in reaction to the occupation of the state capitol building by 30 armed members of the Black Panther Party.


Reagan explained he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”
No doubt it’s ironic that today’s conservatives should be adopting the arguments of past radicals.
The lesson is that armed political movements of any ideology can endanger democracy, and that a consistent, rational reading of the Constitution would empower states to rein them in.
 

silentsinger

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Isn't The Washington Post owned by Amazon Bezos and that's why Trump has a problem? Because he is the most rich man on the planet?
 

FINGERS

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Christ.

its like the right wing have regressed into petulant teenagers.

pathetic.

brains of marines.
 

Zeph

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I wonder what this forums reaction would be if it was a group heavily armed arabs rather than a right wing terrorist organisation.
 

ThatOneDude

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I wonder what this forums reaction would be if it was a group heavily armed arabs rather than a right wing terrorist organisation.
I can only speak for myself, but, I love to see historically oppressed minority groups and immigrants exercise their second amendment rights. It's a beautiful thing and part of what makes America the best.
 
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Open carry is fucking insane. Alhamdilullah I live in one of the 3 states that doesn't have it
 

ThatOneDude

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Open carry is fucking insane. Alhamdilullah I live in one of the 3 states that doesn't have it
We have it here, really don't see it too often. I am told the intent of the law in Texas for pistols is just to protect legal gun owners in the event their shirt rides up too high etc while carrying concealed. Who knows how true that is.

I think people like the author who discuss the constitutionality of the second amendment and then use hunters as an example are dumb, that being said hunting is about the only time I open carry in public. I'll toss my shotgun over my should and walk across the street or down it to go duck and dove hunting. When we are out on the farm we open carry, it's more convenient and on private property.
 
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We have it here, really don't see it too often. I am told the intent of the law in Texas for pistols is just to protect legal gun owners in the event their shirt rides up too high etc while carrying concealed. Who knows how true that is.

I think people like the author who discuss the constitutionality of the second amendment and then use hunters as an example are dumb, that being said hunting is about the only time I open carry in public. I'll toss my shotgun over my should and walk across the street or down it to go duck and dove hunting.
Hunting is an exception that even we allow. Then it just makes sense to open-carry
 

Le Chat Noir

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It's amazing how leftists have zero grasp on the history of personal freedom and the oppression of citizens by their governments.

There is a reason they are called sheeple.



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Toelocku

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I wonder what this forums reaction would be if it was a group heavily armed arabs rather than a right wing terrorist organisation.
Lol @ right wing terrorist...its some larping Barnies trying to be cool.

Of course armed Arabs would be a greater threat by probability... to pretend otherwise is virtue signaling
 

ThatOneDude

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I don't get why people think I'm joking when I say I love to see people embracing their rights. It's part of what makes this country great.

Freedom isn't always comfortable, and we may not like what others are doing, but if they aren't hurting anyone, then great. More power to them.
 

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I don't get why people think I'm joking when I say I love to see people embracing their rights. It's part of what makes this country great.

Freedom isn't always comfortable, and we may not like what others are doing, but if they aren't hurting anyone, then great. More power to them.
I once saw a black man open carry while wearing a confederate flag belt buckle and a trucker hat with some truck company logo. It was odd for sure but at the end of the day good for him. He was a nice guy. I wanted to engage him and find out his thought process but I was at work and didnt get the chance.
 

ThatOneDude

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I once saw a black man open carry while wearing a confederate flag belt buckle and a trucker hat with some truck company logo. It was odd for sure but at the end of the day good for him. He was a nice guy. I wanted to engage him and find out his thought process but I was at work and didnt get the chance.
Great, it doesn't sound like he's hurting anyone so thats awesome.
 

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Lol @ right wing terrorist...its some larping Barnies trying to be cool.

Of course armed Arabs would be a greater threat by probability... to pretend otherwise is virtue signaling
Right wing terrorism is the greatest threat to the U.S. population right now. I'm not sure what else you would call turning up with a gang of armed individuals to intimidate law makers than terrorism. They intended to achieve their political aims with a act of force. It's textbook terrorism.