List of All Time Great Fighters that have put their UFC belt on the line more often than Conor

[Sheepdog]

Dave Menne
Carla Esparza
Evan Tanner
Carlos Newton
Matt Serra
Forrest Griffin

Conor currently belongs to a distinguished group comprised of only himself and Germaine De Randamie of people who win belts and then vacate them without ever making a defence in that weight class. He is on track to separate himself from that pack by doing it twice.

I didn't think there was enough Conor discussion.

 

[tang]

droppin' some truth bomb

Not sure it's because of Conor's charisma and success but the majority of the people comes up with the most convenient excuse for him.

Same people call DJ a duck for whatever reason, but Conor always seems to get a pass.

 

[member 3289]

Conor will defend his belt against goofy Ferg or the Dagestani whenever the UFC pays him enough.

 

[Onetrickpony]

Conor will defend his belt against goofy Ferg or the Dagestani whenever the UFC pays him enough.

Nope, by the time he comes back they’ll have stripped him.

 

[member 3289]

Nope, by the time he comes back they’ll have stripped him.

 

[Coast]

Dave Menne
Carla Esparza
Evan Tanner
Carlos Newton
Matt Serra
Forrest Griffin

Conor currently belongs to a distinguished group comprised of only himself and Germaine De Randamie of people who win belts and then vacate them without ever making a defence in that weight class. He is on track to separate himself from that pack by doing it twice.

I didn't think there was enough Conor discussion.

What a horrible cowardly shit that GDR is.

But at least she vacated rather than hang on desperately to the belt.

 

[Sheepdog]

What a horrible cowardly shit that GDR is.

But at least she vacated rather than hang on desperately to the belt.

The weird thing about De Random's cowardice is that judging by her fight with Holly and Holly's fight with Cyborg, she would have had a chance too. Not a huge chance, but a chance.

Situations like that are why you need actual friends around you - someone in her team needed to explain to her that if she pussied out of the fight, the damage to her and reputation and career would be infinitely worse than any beating Cyborg would put on her.

 

[Coast]

The weird thing about De Random's cowardice is that judging by her fight with Holly and Holly's fight with Cyborg, she would have had a chance too. Not a huge chance, but a chance.

Situations like that are why you need actual friends around you - someone in her team needed to explain to her that if she pussied out of the fight, the damage to her and reputation and career would be infinitely worse than any beating Cyborg would put on her.

I'd give her less of chance, I thought Holly won that fight and GDR should have been deducted points for the after the bell shot that staggered Holm.

I'm not even mad that she doesn't want to fight Cyborg because she was on roids or even suspects that she still is. She took a fight in a division made for Cyborg, then won the belt, she must have known that somewhere down the line she'd have to fight Cyborg and when moment came she tucked tail and ran.

 

[Sheepdog]

I'd give her less of chance, I thought Holly won that fight and GDR should have been deducted points for the after the bell shot that staggered Holm.

I'm not even mad that she doesn't want to fight Cyborg because she was on roids or even suspects that she still is. She took a fight in a division made for Cyborg, then won the belt, she must have known that somewhere down the line she'd have to fight Cyborg and when moment came she tucked tail and ran.

With respect, if you think Holly won that fight, you were listening to the commentary and some 'ki yaas' and not just watching the fight. If you watched it again, you'd realize it wasn't even that close - GDR beat the shit out of Holly with counters.

 

[Coast]

With respect, if you think Holly won that fight, you were listening to the commentary and some 'ki yaas' and not just watching the fight. If you watched it again, you'd realize it wasn't even that close - GDR beat the shit out of Holly with counters.

Id have to watch it again but I think I had Holm on 3,4,5.

GDR should have had points taken for for the shot after the bell in Rd.1 which staggered her and knocked her mouth piece out, GDR did the same thing in the second round. GDR should have been deducted a point, no question.

You could counter that Holm only then won because GDR was deducted points, the counter to that argument being we don't know how bad Holm was rocked after the bell.

Also, GDR's MMA record is less than stellar. She's already been beaten 3 times (4 IMO). All her wins are against no names, she's failed at every high hurdle except for Holm where she got lucky.

 

[Shy Guy]

The Machida era > Conor's 145/155 lb reign

 

[Sheepdog]

Id have to watch it again but I think I had Holm on 3,4,5.

GDR should have had points taken for for the shot after the bell in Rd.1 which staggered her and knocked her mouth piece out, GDR did the same thing in the second round. GDR should have been deducted a point, no question.

You could counter that Holm only then won because GDR was deducted points, the counter to that argument being we don't know how bad Holm was rocked after the bell.

Also, GDR's MMA record is less than stellar. She's already been beaten 3 times (4 IMO). All her wins are against no names, she's failed at every high hurdle except for Holm where she got lucky.

I don't disagree about a point deduction (not deductions, one of the strikes wasn't a foul), I'm just talking about scoring the fight as it out. Holly is one of those fighters that exposes fans for being terrible at scoring fights, because she yells every time she throws a strike, throws lots of air strikes and the commentary is usually biased in her favor. I'm not saying you are one of those fans as this fight was close-ish. But the only person in there landing anything of note was De Random.

 

[Coast]

I don't disagree about a point deduction (not deductions, one of the strikes wasn't a foul), I'm just talking about scoring the fight as it out. Holly is one of those fighters that exposes fans for being terrible at scoring fights, because she yells every time she throws a strike, throws lots of air strikes and the commentary is usually biased in her favor. I'm not saying you are one of those fans as this fight was close-ish. But the only person in there landing anything of note was De Random.

The best (legal) strike of the fight was thrown by Hom, a head kick which forced put GDR down (hands to floor counts as a knockdown). You can call commentary bias on those watching at home and the media outlets - both whom had had Holm winning the fight (MMADecisions.com), but you can't call commentary bias on the crowd reaction to GDR's win. Even GDR knew her win wasn't legit when she was proclaiming not to be a dirty fighter and offered Holm an immediate rematch.

 

[Sheepdog]

The best (legal) strike of the fight was thrown by Hom, a head kick which forced put GDR down (hands to floor counts as a knockdown). You can call commentary bias on those watching at home and the media outlets - both whom had had Holm winning the fight (MMADecisions.com), but you can't call commentary bias on the crowd reaction to GDR's win. Even GDR knew her win wasn't legit when she was proclaiming not to be a dirty fighter and offered Holm an immediate rematch.

Crowd was pissed about the late strikes which influenced their reaction.

As an aside, Holm was really dumb to just drop her hands like that in one instance. One of the 'late strikes' wasn't even really late. It happened just as the horn sounded and Holly dropped her hands as if the horn was a magical force field compelling her opponent to stop.

 

[Coast]

Crowd was pissed about the late strikes which influenced their reaction.

As an aside, Holm was really dumb to just drop her hands like that in one instance. One of the 'late strikes' wasn't even really late. It happened just as the horn sounded and Holly dropped her hands as if the horn was a magical force field compelling her opponent to stop.

Both times, one strike on the bell and the other clearly afterwards. In the first instance, if Holm had a lesser chin she would have been dropped and GDR disqualified, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Holm never dropped her hands as they were already low from the clinch.

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

Both times, one strike on the bell and the other clearly afterwards. In the first instance, if Holm had a lesser chin she would have been dropped and GDR disqualified, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Holm never dropped her hands as they were already low from the clinch.

Actually that didnt look as bad as I remember. When watching live it really looked
bad and I remember thinking what a cheater she was. That clip looks more of her just
being a bit careless then a outright cheat.

1st (left punch) punch landed on the bell and the right follow up
was in motion as the bell concluded. The punch was already being
cocked back for delivery she just gave zero fucks to pull it back.

EDIT - When asked by the media to address the late punches Germaine
shoulda' gave the old gang banger script "These dogs right here don't have
no name. So when I release them on you I cant call them back" LOL

 

[RaginCajun]

 

[Muridae83]

Dave Menne
Carla Esparza
Evan Tanner
Carlos Newton
Matt Serra
Forrest Griffin

Conor currently belongs to a distinguished group comprised of only himself and Germaine De Randamie of people who win belts and then vacate them without ever making a defence in that weight class. He is on track to separate himself from that pack by doing it twice.

I didn't think there was enough Conor discussion.

Conor, De Randamie and GSP...

 

[Sheepdog]

Conor, De Randamie and GSP...

True. At least GSP does have title defenses unlike the other two.

 

[Nemo?]

Brock Lesnar should be on that list.

 

[Onetrickpony]

Brock Lesnar should be on that list.

Why? He won the belt and defended twice.

 

[MMAHAWK]

Before he ever won and defended the LW belt. B.J. Penn won the welterweight belt then left the ufc without defending.

 

[Sheepdog]

Before he ever won and defended the LW belt. B.J. Penn won the welterweight belt then left the ufc without defending.

I actually did remember that when I made the OP but forgot to explain leaving him off because I am a retard. Yes, technically BJ makes the list but technically is the operative word. He left to to do fights like Machida at HW proving what a complete pussy he must be, and then came back to the UFC to immediately fight GSP and then Hughes - the two guys who fought for his vacant belt - and for the very same belt he initially gave up.

 

[Dick Niaz]

I think the criticism is fair from a fan's point of view, but there is an enormous difference between Conor's situation and anyone else listed. I truly believe Conor is not scared. If anything, he is making calculated business decisions to protect his brand (which, by the way, continues to grow exponentially even without fighting). I admit, I am a Conor fanatic, but when I put myself in his shoes, I also can't blame the guy for keeping to his own agenda and timeline. Stripping him seems to be the best decision for all involved, but him not defending to appease the masses doesn't make me think any less of him whatsoever.

 

[Nemo?]

Why? He won the belt and defended twice.

He defended it more than Conor???

haha I read too fast me thinks..