General Is there a boom of administrators over the last 30 years...and why?

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Medicine. More admins, more pay for them:


Some universities have more admins than faculty!?


k-12 schools have exploded in admin






So what gives? Why is this allowed? Public and Private seem to be justifying this somehow.
Various fields and all the places that we know are broken and cost too much.
 
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3 admins here and one of them blows.

Guess which one people?

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Disciplined Galt

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I am pretty sure the school I'm working at has more administrators than teachers. They don't do shit except at the start and end of terms.
 
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I am pretty sure the school I'm working at has more administrators than teachers. They don't do shit except at the start and end of terms.
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Yossarian

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Industrialized healthcare/edcuation. Milking and feeding the insurance industry/banks. People pick up the tabs.
 

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I heard a teacher talking about this once on the radio. He said he has seen many go to college for teaching and then realize after graduating they don't like teaching. They have invested time and money in this career already so they just go back to school for another degree and as long as it is related to teaching, the school system will pay for them to go back. So eventually the school system has a lot of people with expensive college degrees on staff that don't like teaching. So they all just transfer to being highly paid administrators.
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I have just had a monumental breakthrough as I know understand why Galt used to call people a bundle of twigs all the time.


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That took me waaaaay longer than it should have
 

jason73

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Top heavy administration is why our socialist auto insurance in bc has lost 957 million dollars in the last 9 months.it used to be a cash cow for the govt but they found a way to fuck it up
 

maurice

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I started working for a state government agency 15 years ago. At that time, we had about 250 employees, including maybe 10 administrators. Now we have fewer employees but also like 15 administrators in my office alone, resulting in massive backlogs.

It's a patronage scam to reward your buddies with more pay for MUCH less work. No idea why the auditors haven't caught on.
 

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Medicine. More admins, more pay for them:


Some universities have more admins than faculty!?


k-12 schools have exploded in admin






So what gives? Why is this allowed? Public and Private seem to be justifying this somehow.
Various fields and all the places that we know are broken and cost too much.
These graphs are not measuring the same things at all so it's hard to say what you can attribute the spike to in these particular cases. The category non-teaching staff, for example, does not equal administration in k-12 schooling. There are a lot of student support services that have been added in the past few decades. In the U Michigan case, we can speculate that the system has decreased tenure track hires in favor of adjuncts and possibly enlarged its bureaucracy to manage data reporting requirements, departments, etc. In the hospital administration case, it's unclear how administration is being defined. Managers? All non-medical staff? Are there admins who still consult on medical matters and if so, are they dual classified or are we going just by job title? Not really possible to make a claim about increased administration based on this sample.
 

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The real answer is an increase in the need for data. More data requires more people to administer the data.

Thank god I'm in the data business.