General How to RCMP handle a child predator case
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Seen this earlier but couldn't bring myself to post it...So many fucking sick twat in this world...My god...He said he got what he deserves....Nope.
He would have if that was my house.
The RCMP is a corrupt and inept police force. They are more concerned about dealing with their critics than criminals.
@Lars Kind
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Fuckin eh there bud.
I think being rich grants them more enablers.
This happened just up island from where I live.
We have a very active vigilanty group targeting suspected pedophiles called Creep Catchers. They have been posting videos of their stings online for a couple years now. Some of these 'stings' have resulted in charges, others have just resulted in public humiliation. RCMP has asked CC not to set up these stings and to instead forward any info / correspondence to them for investigation.
RCMP stated they had an open active investigation on this skinner.
The concern now is, the actions of these people may have jeopardized the case against him.
The RCMP told this couple not to set up a meeting at their house under the pretense he was coming to meet their daughter. Unfortunately, vigilantly justice doesn't always work as planned.
With that said, chop his nuts off.
We have a very active vigilanty group targeting suspected pedophiles called Creep Catchers. They have been posting videos of their stings online for a couple years now. Some of these 'stings' have resulted in charges, others have just resulted in public humiliation. RCMP has asked CC not to set up these stings and to instead forward any info / correspondence to them for investigation.
RCMP stated they had an open active investigation on this skinner.
The concern now is, the actions of these people may have jeopardized the case against him.
The RCMP told this couple not to set up a meeting at their house under the pretense he was coming to meet their daughter. Unfortunately, vigilantly justice doesn't always work as planned.
With that said, chop his nuts off.
Is there a correlation between being a rich twat pedo and having friends in very high places
Do yall recall when they caught an rcmp officer in one of their strings?
Charge dropped against Mountie targeted in Creep Catchers sting
Seems like there are a lot of these vigilante groups. I love their intentions but hopefully they are not ruining the cases against these pedos. Best to hand the info off to the cops and let them deal with it.
RCMP recommended two charges to the Crown (Child Luring & Breach of Trust by a Public Office). The Crown was the one who dismissed the Breach of Trust charges due to a lack of sufficient evidence and the low likelihood of a conviction. The officer was found guilty of the Child Luring charges.
It was a joke.
That being said if you don’t think the thin blue line extends into the crown, then you are naive. Crown prosecutors rely on the police to bring them cases. They do not want an adversarial relationship.
Explain to me how a police officer luring a child isn’t a grievous breach of trust? Trying to fuck a child is a ‘marked departure’ from the accepted off duty conduct .
Breach-of-trust convictions made tougher
“To be found guilty of breach of trust, a public office holder must not only show a "marked departure" from acceptable standards of conduct, but also act with a conscious intent that smacks of "dishonesty, corruption, partiality (or) oppression."
CODE OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT REGULATION
Improper off-duty conduct
16 For the purposes of section 4 (1) (l), a police officer commits the disciplinary default of improper off-duty conduct if
(b) the police officer, while off duty, acts in a manner that is likely to discredit the reputation of the municipal police department with which the police officer is employed.
The guy gets convicted of luring a child and somehow there isn’t sufficient evidence that there was a breach of trust. I stand by my original statement as they had a duty to lay out the plain facts to the crown enough to make a charge stick.
“Notice that even though @Lars Kind is tagged he avoids this conversation like a Parkland School Resource Officer/Broward County deputy avoids an active shooter.”
I disagree on both statements to an extent.
The Crown doesn't rely on anything. Yes, charges most often start with the RCMP but that is the way the system's checks and balances were designed. It is not like the RCMP would move forward in the criminal justice process any more so than the Crown could without the other.
The Crown keeps the RCMP in check and ensures they have necessary evidence for the charges they recommend.
If the Crown role didnt exist, we would be clogging up the court systems with charges that dont meet the threshold for convictions and wasting a ton of money.
You can disagree all you want, but as you admitted, the Crown does rely on law enforcement to bring them the bulk of their cases.
I am fully aware of the role of the Crown Prosecutors and I haven’t argued against their necessity. I am saying that in many cases, they have become too complacent when handling law enforcement cases. You are either intentionally moving the goalposts or you aren’t picking up what I am laying down. I am not the only person stating that this is a problem. It’s been an ongoing issue here in Alberta.
Lawyer’s association urges province to create special group of prosecutors to handle charges against police
“We’ve seen matters where it’s appeared to be obvious to us that a police officer should be charged and prosecuted where it hasn’t happened,” said committee chair Tom Engel. “We’re somewhat baffled about why it didn’t happen, because quite often, there’s no explanation.”
“Who knows what happened behind the scenes? We know from experience and talking to crown prosecutors who have handled these types of prosecutions that the police will bring pressure, so you have to be courageous to withstand that.”
One of the lawyers defending the police in the article that I posted is Alain Hepner. He is well known for getting scumbags off of charges like the mother that strangled her daughter to death (Aset Magomadova), the junkie that had her baby daddy murdered (Sheena Cuthill), The guy that stabbed a father of four to death (James Rajbhandari), the drunk driver that killed a 17yo kid (Ryan Jordan Gibson), and the 19 year old that killed his 12yo girlfriend’s parents and 8yo son (Jeremy Steinke). The company that you keep....
It goes a lot deeper than the RCMP. It’s the justice system as a whole. Here’s Calgary police Association president Les Kaminski stating on Jan 7/2017 stating that naming charged officers is a black eye for police.
Naming charged officers a 'black eye' for police: Calgary Police Association president
Here he is ten days later on Jan 17/2017 being charged with assault and perjury.
https://solgps.alberta.ca/asirt/med...ers charged following ASIRT investigation.pdf
Both charges have been dropped now by the crown (surprise). The system needs a total overhaul
Naming charged officers a 'black eye' for police: Calgary Police Association president
Here he is ten days later on Jan 17/2017 being charged with assault and perjury.
https://solgps.alberta.ca/asirt/med...ers charged following ASIRT investigation.pdf
Both charges have been dropped now by the crown (surprise). The system needs a total overhaul
Moving goal posts? I replied to your picture insinuating the RCMP investigated themselves and found the officer to be at no fault therefore didnt recommend any charges to the Crown... then you moved your goal posts to the Crown is depended upon the RCMP provide them with work.. And now it is, the Crown and the RCMP may be too cozy in their roles working alongside each other.
Again, I struggle with your wording here.
As well, you have changed your statement from the Crown relies on the RCMP to the Crown relies on law enforcement.
You seem to be imply the RCMP props up the Crown or ensures their survival and necessity. This would be the equivalent of stating the RCMP or the Crown props up criminal court judges in Canada, just doesn't make sense.
You state the Crown relys on the RCMP for the bulk of their cases... but instead the system is designed that way to ensure a series of checks and balances within our justice system.
There may be instances of where Crown and RCMP are getting too cozy in their roles but it would be wrong to say it is the norm.
I’ll address your points one last time.
“I replied to your picture insinuating the RCMP investigated themselves and found the officer to be at no fault therefore didnt recommend any charges to the Crown“
I posted a popular meme in an attempt at humour. You then had to be THAT guy and bring out the ‘well actually’ role so I tried to explain my position.
“then you moved your goal posts to the Crown is depended upon the RCMP provide them with work.. And now it is, the Crown and the RCMP may be too cozy in their roles working alongside each other.“
The crown is depended upon the RCMP to provide them with work, as a result they have become too cozy in their roles. The two points aren’t mutually exclusive.
“As well, you have changed your statement from the Crown relies on the RCMP to the Crown relies on law enforcement.“
They rely on both. Many cities are policed by their respective city police forces and not the RCMP, or in conjunction with the RCMP. In those example, they are relying on the city police forces (Or in Alberta’s case, the Alberta Sheriffs). Again, not mutually exclusive.
“You seem to be imply the RCMP props up the Crown or ensures their survival and necessity. This would be the equivalent of stating the RCMP or the Crown props up criminal court judges in Canada, just doesn't make sense.”
I’m saying that the RCMP and other Canadian police forces investigate crimes and gather evidence in order for the Crown attorneys to lay charges. Crown Attorneys are not judges and I haven’t mentioned judges once, so I’m wondering why you think I’m the one not making sense.
“You state the Crown relys on the RCMP for the bulk of their cases... but instead the system is designed that way to ensure a series of checks and balances within our justice system.“
Again not mutually exclusive. I’m starting to see a trend with you....In logic and probability theory, two propositions (or events) are mutually exclusive or disjoint if they cannot both be true (occur). A clear example is the set of outcomes of a single coin toss, which can result in either heads or tails, but not both.
“There may be instances of where Crown and RCMP are getting too cozy in their roles but it would be wrong to say it is the norm“
Lawyer’s association urges province to create special group of prosecutors to handle charges against police
You clearly chose not to read the article that I posted explaining that Criminal Trial Lawyer’s Association in Alberta wants to create a special group to handle cases against police due to what I stated being the norm. You have been arguing with ConorMcgregorsBeard for too long and he is starting to rub off on you, two sides of the same coin.
