Info on Romero "weight-gate"

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Did you hear his post fight speech?
He blamed the commission

Also if your team says something & you don't dispute it, that is on the fighter.
Yoel made the same excuse many times before his camp even said a word about it
 

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Yoel made the same excuse many times before his camp even said a word about it
Plus you pick your team & pay your team.
if your team says something & you don't correct it than it is on you (fighter).

i remember when Holly beat RR, her team said stuff about the Tate fight proposed & Holly publicly said that was not her opinion(s).
 

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according to the actual video it was 1hr & 54 minutes & he needed help walking away
If the video is accurate then he had his 2 hrs & was not that healthy afterwards.

There has been instances, in the past but I cannot remember off-hand
Ya I am not trying to make a case for him...I think giving a fighter extra time to make weight is bullshit personally(should be on weight or not)

IN my perfect world of running a commission/Org.....IF you miss on first attempt then no title fight...and if you are fit to fight then if fighters can agree on contractual penalties let the fight go on...if u can't agree then fight is off.

Honestly, letting a depleted fighter cut more weight is opening you up for lawsuits if shit goes wrong.

He miscalculated(or cheated as some say)Yoel looked like death on 1st attempt...he had already fucked up bad at that moment IMO...the 2 hours only gave him less health/energy on fight night and arguably gave whitaker an advantage...If Yoel gets KOed bad and has perm damage from it then we are talking about a lot of other shit and lawsuits.

But as you know I am anti weight cut/weight classes and even Title belts...so I watch for fights only and I want the guys healthy both in fight and later in life

Belts and weight classes were never my friend

:)
 

Howard Moon

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Love your posts but I don't get the Hate
To each their own...enjoy
I'm aware that I march to a different beat than most.
I always try to make it clear I'm stating my opinion, and not expecting anyone to give that opinion any more weight than it deserves on merit.

I appreciate you giving me the go-ahead to be myself though. It makes a big difference. ;)
 

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I figured everyone already knew this was Romero's fault, not sure where the mystery was. Who was blaming anyone other than Romero? He had to make weight and he failed, again. He's a cheating weirdo
 

Rambo John J

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I'm aware that I march to a different beat than most.
I always try to make it clear I'm stating my opinion, and not expecting anyone to give that opinion any more weight than it deserves on merit.

I appreciate you giving me the go-ahead to be myself though. It makes a big difference. ;)
OK, sarcasm not really needed but I get it....wasn't giving you permission, cause ya know u don't need it
I only said that because I didn't want a discussion to get ugly/heated...I never know who flips the lid easily and who realizes this is just text on a screen...some folks here cannot even have a discussion without wanting to block somebody for eternity if it doesn't resolve the way they would like

I didn't know much about the situation, and I know more now...your post makes more sense to me now.
 

Rambo John J

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I figured everyone already knew this was Romero's fault, not sure where the mystery was. Who was blaming anyone other than Romero, he had to make weight and he failed, again.
Ya...I think only Yoel and his camp is saying it wasn't his fault

Scale don't lie...thread is informative but also nothing new

Real discussion should be on MMA scoring and how the linear belt is in GSP trophy case...Robert has a fugazi belt, even though he did everything possible to be Champ
 

SensoriaUtopia

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Ya...I think only Yoel and his camp is saying it wasn't his fault

Scale don't lie...thread is informative but also nothing new

Real discussion should be on MMA scoring and how the linear belt is in GSP trophy case...Robert has a fugazi belt, even though he did everything possible to be Champ
Yeah, everyone already knew it was on Yoel from last Friday

As for your 2nd point,


Blame it on the retards known as WME. THey fucked up the belt lineage and fucked up having a true world champ by letting Gegard walk. No one will ever consider the UFC MW champ the world champ for a long time, not with Gegard being the likely best MW in the world, dude has not lost a fight since USADA kicked in and has 5 finishes in those 7 fights
 

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OK, sarcasm not really needed but I get it....wasn't giving you permission, cause ya know u don't need it
I only said that because I didn't want a discussion to get ugly/heated...I never know who flips the lid easily and who realizes this is just text on a screen...some folks here cannot even have a discussion without wanting to block somebody for eternity if it doesn't resolve the way they would like

I didn't know much about the situation, and I know more now...your post makes more sense to me now.
I'm generally pretty level headed, though I can be overly quick to respond to a slight, real or perceived. That's not bragging, I'm aware it's a character flaw. I've lived a fairly rough life and my defenses seem to be permanently high, often in situations where it's unwarranted.

You seem like a good egg and I have no desire for any friction with you. As you say, this is all just text on screen.
Cheers.
 

Rambo John J

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So far from true
Look at social media & see how many are backing the lawsuit because they believe that one side
this is the only form of social media I frequent....that stuff is poison IMO

I will take your word for it

sounds like folks just blindly backing their "guy"...probably some misdirected anger over losing money/pride from the debatable decision also

and the fact that social media is where people go to act a fool
 

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this is the only form of social media I frequent....that stuff is poison IMO

I will take your word for it

sounds like folks just blindly backing their "guy"...probably some misdirected anger over losing money/pride from the debatable decision also

and the fact that social media is where people go to act a fool
Not just back "their guy" but some feel that everyone has been done wrong by those in power.

The reason that guy tweeted the video timing is due to how many believe Yoel was screwed
 

Rambo John J

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Not just back "their guy" but some feel that everyone has been done wrong by those in power.

The reason that guy tweeted the video timing is due to how many believe Yoel was screwed
Power does corrupt

But Yoel just missed weight IMO

whole thing is blown way out of proportion

Hope the fight is remembered and not the controversy of the cut

IMO those two guys have unfinished business...Finishes are what I respect in MMA, wish records were more about finishes than "wins"

just me though, and I doubt we see them fight a 3rd time due to Yoels age and increasing difficulty cutting lbs
 

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I'm generally pretty level headed, though I can be overly quick to respond to a slight, real or perceived. That's not bragging, I'm aware it's a character flaw. I've lived a fairly rough life and my defenses seem to be permanently high, often in situations where it's unwarranted.
I should add that this is why I can't support certain fighters. When you spend your life watching people struggle to live, and often fail, you learn the difference between life and sport. Cutting corners, cheating, fucking people over, you do that when you have to so you can survive, not to win a game. Even then, I've seen many who struggle to survive who still maintain their morals. That's why I hate sports cheaters.
 

Rambo John J

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I should add that this is why I can't support certain fighters. When you spend your life watching people struggle to live, and often fail, you learn the difference between life and sport. Cutting corners, cheating, fucking people over, you do that when you have to so you can survive, not to win a game. Even then, I've seen many who struggle to survive who still maintain their morals. That's why I hate sports cheaters.
your last two posts describe my views and actions in life...despite me not having that tough of a life(lot of psychedelics killed my ego though)

Your values are very solid and describe my real life motto and actions...good to hear.

I guess MMA is so Rife with gamesmanship and cheating(PEds etc) that I don't hold many fighters to that because it is just entertainment to me...I do go off on Jon Jones but he lied to us/me far too many times.
 

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Yeah this is a big nothing burger. Plus he lost the fucking fight anyway so what difference does it make at this point, other than the money from his purse
 

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Yoel is one of the best to ever fight MMA and that is clear as Day
BJM says doctor is one who held up Tim Kennedy fight
PED thing was said to be a tainted sup that was actually found tested and confirmed...I always find that suspicious

To each their own...enjoy
Beast of a fighter for sure. I wish he would’ve gotten into the sport when he was younger.

I don’t fully buy BJM explanation of Stool Gate. Maybe I’m trying to find a reason to hate on Yoel, but i blame him and his corner. BJM can say whatever he wants to cover his own ass. He fucked up and should’ve DQ’d Romero. Pushing the blame on the doctors takes focus off him. I call Bullshit.

Tainted supplements. I’m not buying that one either. Guess my tinfoil hat is on tight this morning.
 

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Beast of a fighter for sure. I wish he would’ve gotten into the sport when he was younger.

I don’t fully buy BJM explanation of Stool Gate. Maybe I’m trying to find a reason to hate on Yoel, but i blame him and his corner. BJM can say whatever he wants to cover his own ass. He fucked up and should’ve DQ’d Romero. Pushing the blame on the doctors takes focus off him. I call Bullshit.

Tainted supplements. I’m not buying that one either. Guess my tinfoil hat is on tight this morning.
Someone called Tiiimmmaaayyy still whining about 'stoolgate'. Brilliant.