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nuraknu

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Would be interested to see the promotion agreement - also an agreement for a fighter a little higher up the food chain...can't imagine they all sign something saying zuffa can change the date etc.

In the absence of the promotion agreement, this agreement doesn't really leave room to pull out at all due to change of opponent. Obviously it's not a championship bout agreement, so probably doesn't apply to Ortega. Makes me more curious actually.
 

FrankieNYC

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Would be interested to see the promotion agreement - also an agreement for a fighter a little higher up the food chain...can't imagine they all sign something saying zuffa can change the date etc.

In the absence of the promotion agreement, this agreement doesn't really leave room to pull out at all due to change of opponent. Obviously it's not a championship bout agreement, so probably doesn't apply to Ortega. Makes me more curious actually.
Bout agreements are controlled by AC's so they are all pretty similar.
 
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Do the ones for fighters earning points include mention of those points, or is that only in the promotion agreement?
 

FrankieNYC

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Do the ones for fighters earning points include mention of those points, or is that only in the promotion agreement?
That is a separate contract that AC's do not control.
Any PPV related contract includes auditing rights & is solely between Fighter X & Promoter

Other ways fighters get paid (away from AC) might be in promotional agreement if they are tied into appearances
But some are advances, deferred, etc.
 

FrankieNYC

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No problem. There was a bunch of other pages but that was the main one that goes over the bout.
So the only things I seen that were different were the tix selling (cue @conor mcgregor nut hugger ) & the insurance.
Obviously UFC does not do tix & their insurance that they provide all contracted fighters cover the bout, so neither is needed.

Q: About tix selling. Is there a minimum you have to sell (you or others?) to be on a card?
 

Aj Garcia

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So the only things I seen that were different were the tix selling (cue @conor mcgregor nut hugger ) & the insurance.
Obviously UFC does not do tix & their insurance that they provide all contracted fighters cover the bout, so neither is needed.

Q: About tix selling. Is there a minimum you have to sell (you or others?) to be on a card?
No there’s no minimum at all. Some guys don’t have a lot of family in the area and just wanna fight and don’t really sell any. The more you sell, the more commission you get tho. I think it’s 20% but if you sell a certain amount, it gets bumped up to 25%. I usually make $300-$500 from selling tickets alone. Sponsors and other people there can tell how popular you are based on how many people you have there tho so it’s always good to sell as much as you can.
 

FrankieNYC

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No there’s no minimum at all. Some guys don’t have a lot of family in the area and just wanna fight and don’t really sell any. The more you sell, the more commission you get tho. I think it’s 20% but if you sell a certain amount, it gets bumped up to 25%. I usually make $300-$500 from selling tickets alone. Sponsors and other people there can tell how popular you are based on how many people you have there tho so it’s always good to sell as much as you can.
Thank you
I heard both minimum & non minimum occurs
I wasn't sure of your situation or if it varies at how high on the card you are.

As an up & coming fighter.
How important is the UFC aspect of offering year around injury insurance (to you)?
I know the guaranteed money is a good deal, but is the injury insurance that valuable?
 

Aj Garcia

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Thank you
I heard both minimum & non minimum occurs
I wasn't sure of your situation or if it varies at how high on the card you are.

As an up & coming fighter.
How important is the UFC aspect of offering year around injury insurance (to you)?
I know the guaranteed money is a good deal, but is the injury insurance that valuable?
I’ve heard of bellator having minimums for local guys when they go to a city and have some local guys fight on it. They have to sell a certain amount or they won’t be able to fight. I’ve never fought for a promotion that does that tho.

The ufc insurance thing is awesome. I know if I were to get hurt right before this fight and not get paid again I’d be completely screwed after not getting paid for the last one and then ending up with medical bills for this one. It’s huge and it’s something the ufc didn’t have to do st all. People complain and say guys will just pull out of fights more, but the sport is rough, and injuries happen. I’d rather have guys fight healthy, then be forced to fight really hurt because they need the money.
 

FrankieNYC

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I’ve heard of bellator having minimums for local guys when they go to a city and have some local guys fight on it. They have to sell a certain amount or they won’t be able to fight. I’ve never fought for a promotion that does that tho.

The ufc insurance thing is awesome. I know if I were to get hurt right before this fight and not get paid again I’d be completely screwed after not getting paid for the last one and then ending up with medical bills for this one. It’s huge and it’s something the ufc didn’t have to do st all. People complain and say guys will just pull out of fights more, but the sport is rough, and injuries happen. I’d rather have guys fight healthy, then be forced to fight really hurt because they need the money.
Thank you for the reply
I forget if it was here or SD, but someone said I made up the minimum part about Bellator (I might not be 100% right in everything, but I never make up shit lol)
I know a fighter told me about 6 months ago he had to sell tix to be on a Bellator card & his guarantee was $500 so he passed & went public.
Hopefully with the added $33m per year from DAZN they stop that.
 

KWingJitsu

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It actually looks very similar to my current contract I signed. The printer I used that day kinda sucked but they pretty much go over the same things


Goodness.

That's about as much as I was paid back in my days of fighting on Indian reservations and such.
Our 'contracts' were like 3 sentences long though.
And no opponent name. 'Cos sometimes you fought a dude from the crowd as a "late replacement" :D.

God bless independent promotions.
 

FrankieNYC

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Goodness.

That's about as much as I was paid back in my days of fighting on Indian reservations and such.
Our 'contracts' were like 3 sentences long though.
And no opponent name. 'Cos sometimes you fought a dude from the crowd as a "late replacement" :D.

God bless independent promotions.
Did AC oversee it?
 

KWingJitsu

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Did AC oversee it?
Hell no! LOL.

AC's have zero jurisdiction over Indian reservations. It was truly 'anything goes'.
And not just reservations; underground fights would happen at secret locations like L.A. night clubs and high school gyms.

This was back when the sport was on the cusp of getting legalized with ACs and certain promotions weren't or didn't want to play ball.
Think back to the King of The Cage heyday era... crazy times. Stars were born then.
 

FrankieNYC

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Hell no! LOL.

AC's have zero jurisdiction over Indian reservations. It was truly 'anything goes'.
And not just reservations; underground fights would happen at secret locations like L.A. night clubs and high school gyms.

This was back when the sport was on the cusp of getting legalized with ACs and certain promotions weren't or didn't want to play ball.
Think back to the King of The Cage heyday era... crazy times. Stars were born then.
Very interesting
Thanks for sharing lol