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D241

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Recent UFC Hw Champion activity-

Daniel Cormier fought 2 times at HW in 2018(3 fights total 1 in Lhw)

Stipe Miocic fought 1 time the following year he became champion, two times the following year



If you have a tournament of the best fighters, you get at least two of these guys fighting 4 times throughout the year to become the 2020 HW Tournament winner, which comes with a hefty payday and the covited title for the badest man for that weight class.



1.Daniel Cormier

2.Stipe Miocic

3.Derrick Lewis

4.Francis Ngannou

5.Curtis Blaydes

6.Alexander Volkov

7.Alistair Overeem

8.Junior Dos Santos

9. Aleksei Oleinik

10.Marcin Tybura

11. Justin Willis

12. Tai Tuivasa

13.Shamil Abdurakhimov

14.Walt Harris

15.Andrei Arvloski

16. Stefan Struve



If you go by seeding it'd look like

Daniel Cormier vs Stefan Struve

Stipe Miocic vs Andre Arvloski

Derrick Lewis vs Walt Harris

Francis Nganou vs Shamil Abdurakhimov

Curtis Blaydes vs Tai Tuivasa

Alexander Volkov vs Justin Willis

Alistair Overeem vs Marcin Tybura

Junior Dos Santos vs Aleksei Oleinik



I see Daniel Cormier advancing with more than likely facing Stipe or Ngannou in the finals.

Whoever wins, DC, Stipe, JDS, Ngannou, whoever, will have fought and won FOUR times in 2020 against ranked opponents.



Would you view that heavyweight as being more dominant than a hw who fought 1-2 times in the same time span? I would.
 

D241

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Recent LHW Champion activity-DC defended the lhw title 1 time in 2018. Prior to that 2017 title was not defended.


1.Jon Jones

2.Daniel Cormier

3.Alexander Gustafsson

4.Anthony Smith

5.Jan Blachowicz

6.Volkan Oezdemir

7.Corey Anderson

8.Thiago Santos

9.Dominick Reyes

10.Ilir Latifi

11.Jimi Manuwa

12.Glover Teixeira

13. Ovince St Preux

14.Mauricio Rua

15.Misha Cirkunov

16.Nikita Krylov


If you went by seeding, it'd look like:

Jon Jones vs Nikita Krylov
Daniel Cormier vs Misha Cirkunov
Alexancer Gustafsson vs Mauricio Rua
Anthony Smith vs Ovince St Preux
Jan Blachowics vs Glover Teixeira
Volkan Oezdemir vs Jimmy Manuwa
Corey Anderson vs Ilir Latifi
Thiago Santos vs Dominick Reyes


If DC isn't participating b/c of retirement or choosing to do hw tournament, his spot is gone and someone else moves up. If Jon Jones is suspended, he's not in the tournament. The winner of this tournament will have fought FOUR times in 2020 against top ranked opponents and will have earned the covited title, baddest LightHeavyweight for 2020, along with a payday win bonus.
 

D241

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Recent Mw Champion activity-2018 one title defense. 2017 no title defenses, 2016 no title defenses. Bisping won title, fought 1 time after. GSP won title, vacated. Whitaker won interim title, fought 1 time defending it following year.

That, versus-

2020 UFC Middleweight Tournament!!!!

1. Robert Whitaker
2.Yoel Romero
3.Luke Rockhold
4.Ronaldo Souza
5.Kelvin Gastelum
6.Chris Weidman
7.Israel Adesanya
8.Paulo Costa
9.Derek Brunson
10.Jared Cannonier
11.Brad Tavares
12.David Branch
13.Antonio Carlos Junior
14.Uriah Hall
15.Elias Theodorou
16.Anderson Silva

If you went by seeding it'd look like:
Robert Whitaker vs Anderson Silva
Yoel Romero vs Elias Theodorou
Luke Rockhold vs Uriah Hall
Ronaldo Souza vs Antonio Carlos Junior
Kelvin Gastelum vs David Branch
Chris Weidman vs Brad Tavares
Israel Adesanya vs Jared Cannonier
Paulo Costa vs Derek Brunson

The winner of this tournament will have fought 4 names from this list and won all in the same year, earning the covited title of 2020 UFC Middleweight Tournament Winner, along with a tournament payday bonus!!!

Would you rather see something like this than one UFC fighter named champion MAYBE fighting once a year? I would.
 

D241

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UFC 2020 Welterweight Tournament!!



Recent welter champion activity=defended the belt 1 time in 2018. Defended the belt 2 times in 2017. The past 2 years, having fought a total of 3 fights, is viewed as "the guy" at 170lbs.



1.Tyron Woodley

2.Colby Covington

3.Kamaru Usman

4.Darren Till

5.Stephen Thompson

6.Rafael Dos Anjos

7.Robbie Lawler

8.Santiago Ponzinibbio

9.Demian Maia

10.Leon Edwards

11.Jorge Masvidal

12.Neil Magny

13.Gunnar Nelson

14.Elizeu Dos Santos

15.Geoff Neal

16.Alex Oliveira



Seeding would look like"

Tyron Woodley vs Alex Oliveira

Colby Covington vs Geoff Neal

Kamaru Usman vs Elizeu Dos Santos

Darren Till vs Gunnar Nelson

Stephen Thompson vs Neil Magny

Rafael Dos Anjos vs Jorge Masvidal

Robbie Lawler vs Leon Edwards

Santiago Ponzinibbio vs Demian Maia





Winner of this tournament will have fought and won 4 times against guys on this list, earning them the title of 2020 UFC Welterweight Tournament Winner, along with a tournament payday bonus.



Would you prefer a guy fighting 1 or 2 times a year be considered the top guy for that weight class, or would you consider someone who fought and won 4 times against top ranked guys on this list? I for sure would prefer the latter over the former.
 

D241

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UFC Lightweight Champion recent activity-1 time defended belt in 2018, won belt prior in 2018. Prior to that interim belt obtained in 2017 only to be stripped later for not defending 1 time. Prior to that belt was won in 2016 and vacated for not defending.



UFC 2020 Lightweight Tournament!!!



1.Khabib Nurmagomedov

2.Tony Ferguson

3.Conor McGregor

4.Dustin Poireir

5.Al Iaquinta

6.Kevin Lee

7.Edson Barboza

8.Justin Gaethje

9.Antony Pettis

10.Donald Cerrone

11.James Vick

12.Gregor Gillespie

13.Nate Diaz

14.Alexander Hernandez

15.Francisco Trinaldo

16.Dan Hooker



If seeding then tournament would look like-



Khabib Nurmegomodov vs Dan Hooker

Tony Ferguson vs Francisco Trinaldo

Conor McGregor vs Alexander Hernandez

Dustin Poireir vs Nate Diaz

Al Iaquinta vs Gregor Gillespie

Kevin Lee vs James Vick

Edson Barboza vs Donald Cerrone

Justin Gaethje vs Anthony Pettis



The winner of this tournament will have fought and won FOUR TIMES to earn that year's covited title of 2020 UFC Lightweight Tournament winner, along with a big tournament winner payday bonus!



Would you like to see this unfold or have someone named champion for 3 years and having 1 title defense?
 

Rambo John J

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Tourney Baby!

I want linear champ belt .

and yearly champs via yearlong tournaments

Sometimes the hottest fighter in a division gets no shot at the belt and their prime expires due to "rankings"

Let the active hungry guys go after a Belt free from politics
 

Enock-O-Lypse Now!

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The current system is fucked because UFC has devalued their Belts by handing out interim titles like candy for promotional purposes to pump up their PPV’s.

The Belt is everything! The belt is what fighters are striving for - UFC does not understand that.


If they could have a legit Rankings System along with holding their titles at top value the UFC would be aaaaiiiigggghhhhhtttt!!

They could/should toss in Tournaments for each division every 4 years.

2020 - HW tourney -WW
2021 - LWH - LW
2022 - Middle - FW
2023 - women’s bullshit - Bantam
2024 - reset - HW Tourney - Welterweight
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Recent welter champion activity=defended the belt 1 time in 2018. Defended the belt 2 times in 2017. The past 2 years, having fought a total of 3 fights, is viewed as "the guy" at 170lbs.
Is there any MMA fan that actually thinks Tyron is "The guy" at 170?
 

D241

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My friend not on this forum made a good bring up in that Athletic Commissions might have a hard time licensing a #1 ranked fighter against #16 ranked fighter and he has a good point with that. So, what about....

1 DC vs 8 JDS

2 Stipe vs 9 Aleksei Oleinik

3.Derrick Lewis vs 10 Marcin Tybura

4.Francis Ngannou vs 11J ustin Willis

5.Curtis Blaydes vs 12 Tai Taivuisa

6.Alexander Volkov vs 13 Shamil Abdurakhimov

7.Alistair Overeem vs 14 Andrei Arvloski


That leaves me with the only thing in this tournament bracket that I am not sure if it makes sense or not.



Should #15 face #16 when everyone else has 7 ranking differential? On one hand it stands out from all the other rankings but on the other hand, the top 8 guys should get easier fights in the first round so #15 facing #16 to advance to the 2nd round may not be a bad idea after all.



#1 what are ya'lls thoughts on this and #2, does anyone have a better bracket system?
 

Filthy

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i don't think AC would have a problem sanctioning #1 vs #16, in a tournament format (assuming the #16 fighter has a solid record)

seriously. They sanctioned Mayweather/McGregor.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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i don't think AC would have a problem sanctioning #1 vs #16, in a tournament format (assuming the #16 fighter has a solid record)

seriously. They sanctioned Mayweather/McGregor.
They wouldn't sanction Felder/Khabib because he was "unranked"
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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that was a last-minute substitution in a title fight. If they had booked Felder/Khabib 3 months prior and sold tickets for Felder/Khabib, no AC would deny license.
Probably, just saying that it has happened in the past.
 

jason73

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the ACs have proved to be shady as fuck . i dont see them having a problem with 1 vs 16 as long as an envelope of cash is involved
 

Wild

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Tournaments, all day, every day. It's one thing I really appreciate about Coker.
 

D241

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They wouldn't sanction Felder/Khabib because he was "unranked"
At best it's a grey area on IF the Athletic Commissions would sanction a 1 vs 16 ranked fighter.

So, lets side on the error of caution and re-vamp this tournament idea.....

1 DC vs 8 JDS

2 Stipe vs 9 Aleksei Oleinik

3.Derrick Lewis vs 10 Marcin Tybura

4.Francis Ngannou vs 11J ustin Willis

5.Curtis Blaydes vs 12 Tai Taivuisa

6.Alexander Volkov vs 13 Shamil Abdurakhimov

7.Alistair Overeem vs 14 Andrei Arvloski

That leaves #15 fighting #16. While this doesn't fit the same gap as all the other fights, I'm okay with this b/c the higher ranked fighters get somewhat easier fights due to their rankings, so therefor the #15 ranked guy doesn't get that easy of a fight.


Thoughts?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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At best it's a grey area on IF the Athletic Commissions would sanction a 1 vs 16 ranked fighter.

So, lets side on the error of caution and re-vamp this tournament idea.....

1 DC vs 8 JDS

2 Stipe vs 9 Aleksei Oleinik

3.Derrick Lewis vs 10 Marcin Tybura

4.Francis Ngannou vs 11J ustin Willis

5.Curtis Blaydes vs 12 Tai Taivuisa

6.Alexander Volkov vs 13 Shamil Abdurakhimov

7.Alistair Overeem vs 14 Andrei Arvloski

That leaves #15 fighting #16. While this doesn't fit the same gap as all the other fights, I'm okay with this b/c the higher ranked fighters get somewhat easier fights due to their rankings, so therefor the #15 ranked guy doesn't get that easy of a fight.


Thoughts?
Just my opinion, but a single promotion HW tourney doesn't work, imo.
 

D241

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Just my opinion, but a single promotion HW tourney doesn't work, imo.
You must've missed my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th post lol

Completely do away with belts.

It should be unanimous at this point from any seasoned mma fan, that belts don't work. You get bullshit interim belts, bullshit championship matches where the challenger isn't even deserving to fight for the title, you get people babysitting the belt citing bullshit injuries. This is no good.

Every year, every fighter has a chance to either win their weight class, or compete for a chance to be in the following years' tournament.

No more 1-2 fights from whoever is perceived as the top dog. No more interim belts.

Simplify it by simply having a tournament of the top ranked fighters. Whoever wins, is that year's best fighter for that weight class.

Want to be a legend? Win the shit multiple years in a row. LEGEND
 

MMAHAWK

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You must've missed my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th post lol

Completely do away with belts.

It should be unanimous at this point from any seasoned mma fan, that belts don't work. You get bullshit interim belts, bullshit championship matches where the challenger isn't even deserving to fight for the title, you get people babysitting the belt citing bullshit injuries. This is no good.

Every year, every fighter has a chance to either win their weight class, or compete for a chance to be in the following years' tournament.

No more 1-2 fights from whoever is perceived as the top dog. No more interim belts.

Simplify it by simply having a tournament of the top ranked fighters. Whoever wins, is that year's best fighter for that weight class.

Want to be a legend? Win the shit multiple years in a row. LEGEND
I’ve been wanting this to be the case for about a decade now. Basically what K-1 did and PFL is now doing.
 

Rambo John J

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Champ of 2019 has a good ring to it
puts a time with the accomplishment
 

D241

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Champ of 2019 has a good ring to it
puts a time with the accomplishment
Imagine how bad ass a consecutive 3 year tournament winner would be!!

The revered champions like Mighty Mouse, Anderson, Jones, they could still go on win streaks in the same format, achieving the same legendary status.(well minus Jones and the steroids, a whole nother issue).

This tournament format system is designed to still make the same if not more money for WME as I'm not asking for less or more events, just specific events where instead of having 3-4 big names and the rest of the card filled out, you get 3-4 big names and the rest of the card filled out it's just everyone is in the same weight class for specific events.

The tournament format system is designed to make fans clearly know year in and year out, who the clear cut best fighter for that year that weight class is. I mean in the past year or so, can we say for sure the best guy at 205 was Dc, or can we say for sure it was Jon Jones? Can we say for sure Robert Whitaker was the best 185er this year and last? Can we for sure say Khabib is the best lightweight?

When you're a hw and you fight 3 times a year, 2 against top 5 opponents at least, and one top 10, and you win them all, that would be the most accomplished record for that year/that weight class, without a doubt. Whoever the last opponent is would have 1 loss which makes it clear who the guy was that beat him, is the best guy for that year.

The only drawback on this system, is current champions can no longer hold a belt hostage. You can't wait for a contender to rise, you can't claim an injury knowing you're too new of a champion to be stripped. You HAVE to fight at least 3 times a year(if tournament is shortened to 8 man instead of 16), you HAVE to win all your fights. That's the ONLY way you are viewed as the man for that year.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Completely do away with belts.
I didn't say anything about belts. I pointed out that a HW tourney with just UFC fighters doesn't work as well as one that include fighters from Bellator.

Welterweight is the best example of that seeing as the Bellator champ beat the fuck out of the UFC champ.
 

BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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Definitely a better format, its like a popularity contest in the UFC at the moment.

It is a business first and all that shit but the belts are starting to become meaningless in some divisions.
 

D241

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Definitely a better format, its like a popularity contest in the UFC at the moment.

It is a business first and all that shit but the belts are starting to become meaningless in some divisions.
Exactly and it's unfortunately almost becoming a trend for champions to sit out especially early on. They also can make excuses like the division needs to sort itself out before I decide who I fight next....

Tournaments negate all that.
 

D241

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And from a business perspective, it also helps keep fighters from becoming Conor McGregor big where it's a problem to deal with and demand more money. If you have these type of tournaments it's harder to stay on top winning them year in and year out. Any fighter who accomplished such a feat, would be worthy of the pay regardless of their charisma or lack there of.