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Bloodied Indian pilot captured after jet shot down by Pakistan in Kashmir
Bloodied Indian pilot captured after jet shot down by Pakistan in Kashmir
General INDIA VS PAKISTAN *OFFICIAL WAR THREAD*
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How the hell do the soldiers tell each other apart?
Expect a shit ton of friendly fire deaths
Expect a shit ton of friendly fire deaths
What you guys reckon?
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The regional rivals have gone to war twiceover Kashmir since independence in 1947 from Britain.
Here is how their militaries stack up.
Military budget
In 2018, India allocated four trillion rupees ($58bn), or 2.1 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP), to support its 1.4 million active troops, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).
Last year, Pakistan spent 1.26 trillion Pakistani rupees ($11bn), about 3.6 percent of its GDP, on its 653,800 troops. It also received $100m in foreign military assistance in 2018.
Between 1993 and 2006, more than 20 percent of Pakistan's annual government expenditure was spent on the military, according to estimates from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).
The military accounted for 16.7 percent of government spending in 2017, it said.
By comparison, India's military spending as a percentage of its government expenditure remained under 12 percent during the same period, according to SIPRI. It was 9.1 percent in 2017.
Missiles and nuclear weapons
Both nations have ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons.
India has nine types of operational missiles, including the Agni-3 with a range of 3,000km to 5,000km, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington.
Pakistan's missile programme, built with Chinese assistance, includes mobile short- and medium-range weapons that can reach any part of India, CSIS said. The Shaheen 2 has the longest range, up to 2,000km.
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In 2011, Pakistan confirmed that it had acquired tactical nuclear weapon capability, wherein smaller nuclear warheads are attached to short-range missiles (50-100km) as a deterrent against relatively small-scale conventional Indian attacks.
The addition of tactical nuclear weapons to Pakistan's arsenal lowers the threshold for nuclear weapon use, giving Pakistan what its military terms "full spectrum deterrence" against India's conventional forces.
The weapons were developed to counter India's "Cold Start" doctrine, which envisions a shallow incursion into Pakistani territory without breaching its previous nuclear threshold.
Pakistan has 140 to 150 nuclear warheads, compared with India's 130-140 warheads, according to SIPRI.
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The regional rivals have gone to war twiceover Kashmir since independence in 1947 from Britain.
Here is how their militaries stack up.
Military budget
In 2018, India allocated four trillion rupees ($58bn), or 2.1 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP), to support its 1.4 million active troops, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).
Last year, Pakistan spent 1.26 trillion Pakistani rupees ($11bn), about 3.6 percent of its GDP, on its 653,800 troops. It also received $100m in foreign military assistance in 2018.
Between 1993 and 2006, more than 20 percent of Pakistan's annual government expenditure was spent on the military, according to estimates from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).
The military accounted for 16.7 percent of government spending in 2017, it said.
By comparison, India's military spending as a percentage of its government expenditure remained under 12 percent during the same period, according to SIPRI. It was 9.1 percent in 2017.
Missiles and nuclear weapons
Both nations have ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons.
India has nine types of operational missiles, including the Agni-3 with a range of 3,000km to 5,000km, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington.
Pakistan's missile programme, built with Chinese assistance, includes mobile short- and medium-range weapons that can reach any part of India, CSIS said. The Shaheen 2 has the longest range, up to 2,000km.
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In 2011, Pakistan confirmed that it had acquired tactical nuclear weapon capability, wherein smaller nuclear warheads are attached to short-range missiles (50-100km) as a deterrent against relatively small-scale conventional Indian attacks.
The addition of tactical nuclear weapons to Pakistan's arsenal lowers the threshold for nuclear weapon use, giving Pakistan what its military terms "full spectrum deterrence" against India's conventional forces.
The weapons were developed to counter India's "Cold Start" doctrine, which envisions a shallow incursion into Pakistani territory without breaching its previous nuclear threshold.
Pakistan has 140 to 150 nuclear warheads, compared with India's 130-140 warheads, according to SIPRI.
India has a 1.2 million-strong army, supported by more than 3,565 battle tanks, 3,100 infantry fighting vehicles, 336 armoured personnel carriers and 9,719 pieces of artillery, according to IISS.
Pakistan's army is smaller, with 560,000 troops backed by 2,496 tanks, 1,605 armoured personnel carriers, and 4,472 artillery guns, including 375 self-propelled howitzers.
Despite its larger army, the capability of India's "conventional forces is limited by inadequate logistics, maintenance and shortages of ammunition and spare parts", IISS said in a report this month.
Air Force
With 127,200 personnel and 814 combat aircraft, India's air force is substantially larger but there are concerns about its fighter jet fleet.
India's defence plans require 42 squadrons of jets, about 750 aircraft, to defend against a two-pronged attack from China and Pakistan.
With older Russian jets like the MiG-21, first used in the 1960s, retiring soon, India could have 22 squadrons by 2032, officials say.
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Pakistan has 425 combat aircraft, including the Chinese-origin F-7PG and American F-16 Fighting Falcon jets.
It also has seven airborne early warning and control aircraft, three more than India, IISS said.
"The (Pakistan) air force is modernising its inventory while improving its precision-strike and ISR (intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance) capabilities," IISS said in its 2019 assessment.
Navy
India's navy consists of one aircraft carrier, 16 submarines, 14 destroyers, 13 frigates, 106 patrol and coastal combatant vessels, and 75 combat-capable aircraft.
It has 67,700 personnel, including marines and naval aviation staff.
Pakistan, which has a significantly smaller coastline, has 9 frigates, 8 submarines, 17 patrol and coastal vessels, and 8 combat-capable aircraft.
Pakistan's army is smaller, with 560,000 troops backed by 2,496 tanks, 1,605 armoured personnel carriers, and 4,472 artillery guns, including 375 self-propelled howitzers.
Despite its larger army, the capability of India's "conventional forces is limited by inadequate logistics, maintenance and shortages of ammunition and spare parts", IISS said in a report this month.
Air Force
With 127,200 personnel and 814 combat aircraft, India's air force is substantially larger but there are concerns about its fighter jet fleet.
India's defence plans require 42 squadrons of jets, about 750 aircraft, to defend against a two-pronged attack from China and Pakistan.
With older Russian jets like the MiG-21, first used in the 1960s, retiring soon, India could have 22 squadrons by 2032, officials say.
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Pakistan has 425 combat aircraft, including the Chinese-origin F-7PG and American F-16 Fighting Falcon jets.
It also has seven airborne early warning and control aircraft, three more than India, IISS said.
"The (Pakistan) air force is modernising its inventory while improving its precision-strike and ISR (intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance) capabilities," IISS said in its 2019 assessment.
Navy
India's navy consists of one aircraft carrier, 16 submarines, 14 destroyers, 13 frigates, 106 patrol and coastal combatant vessels, and 75 combat-capable aircraft.
It has 67,700 personnel, including marines and naval aviation staff.
Pakistan, which has a significantly smaller coastline, has 9 frigates, 8 submarines, 17 patrol and coastal vessels, and 8 combat-capable aircraft.
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Yup
These are big numbers folks. Way bigger than the usual participants if this thing fully kicks off.
These are big numbers folks. Way bigger than the usual participants if this thing fully kicks off.
India has 1.2 million strong army!
And they just sent them to the front line on only one train!
And they just sent them to the front line on only one train!
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They're both nuclear-armed countries. I expect a de-escalation of hostilities.
After the Kashmir terrorist attack by a group India accuses Pakistan ofsheltering, India had to respond so they dropped a few bombs in Pakistan.
Then Pakistan had to respond to that so they shit down a few Indian planes.
But now I expect them both to simmer the fuck down.
Depends if they really have that pilot hostage. If they do something stupid like kill him it's gonna go nuts
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India just mad bc the Pakistani PM used to smoke them in cricket
All I can think about is how bad it smells in that area between the two of them.
Jammu & Kashmir is one of the most beautiful places on Earth, and what the Kashmiri's deserve is independence and autonomous rule.
Gotta get my Pakistani friend in on this
They’re a civilized version of squdis. I think we should.,:!
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Captured Indian pilot. Of course you can't trust the accuracy of his statements but he doesn't seem to be under any duress
View: https://twitter.com/PTVNewsOfficial/status/1100738494970978304?s=19
View: https://twitter.com/PTVNewsOfficial/status/1100738494970978304?s=19
Wing Commander is fairly high up the food chain...
Pakistani is the trigger
it's probably different in the Indian AF, but I reported to the Wing Commander of the largest Air Wing in the USAF.
He had a 50 planes and 5k people working for him.
No you didn’t.
Maxy just got done smoking them in cricket way harder than the PK airforce ever could not a minute ago.
I realise that statement will make no sense to you or anyone else here. But go fuck yourselves.
