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Filthy

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He was looking for a huckleberry and you obliged him. As the old saying goes, it takes two to tango.

You don't retort and this thread never gets made. Assuming your account is correct, this individual is unquestionably an asshole but you're not the hapless victim in the wrong place at the wrong time you're pretending to be.
Why retort, which I've already said was impulsive and best not made, did not create the situation.

And which part of "I sauntered away from a flawless victory" or my other posts led you to believe I was a hapless victim? There's no denying that the manlet was the originator of antagonism, unless you're disputing the facts as I presented them. I was never angry or agitated, I gave no indication that anyone was being inconsiderate, I just backed out slowly and started on my way. Again, unless you're disputing my honesty, I don't understand how I created the situation or played the victim.

You can't dig your way out of a hole. Better to just apologize.

 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Why retort, which I've already said was impulsive and best not made, did not create the situation.

And which part of "I sauntered away from a flawless victory" or my other posts led you to believe I was a hapless victim? There's no denying that the manlet was the originator of antagonism, unless you're disputing the facts as I presented them. I was never angry or agitated, I gave no indication that anyone was being inconsiderate, I just backed out slowly and started on my way. Again, unless you're disputing my honesty, I don't understand how I created the situation or played the victim.

You can't dig your way out of a hole. Better to just apologize.

You obviously have no clue
 

Filthy

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You obviously have no clue
i did not escalate. I responded in kind. When the manlet escalated, he caused injury to himself.

He yelled words at me. I yelled words at him.

He escalated to physical posturing and actionable threats, and wrecked some poor lady's Forrester.
 

Filthy

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I didn't get out and tell the guy I thought he was being a dick. I just gave a silent shrug and started backing out slow.

I told you what I thought after the fact, because on his comments and manlet-rage.

Apologize.
 

Rambo John J

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is this a ridiculous arguments inside random threads day?
LOL shit is funny
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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i did not escalate. I responded in kind. When the manlet escalated, he caused injury to himself.

He yelled words at me. I yelled words at him.

He escalated to physical posturing and actionable threats, and wrecked some poor lady's Forrester.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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I didn't get out and tell the guy I thought he was being a dick.
I never said you did. But your opinion of the situation is going to effect how it plays out. Now, if you're expecting everyone here to believe that you assessed the situation and had no possible idea that the guy being cheesed wasn't a possible/likely outcome you're either lying through your teeth or you're extremely naive.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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1) OP gets bent because guy won't let him in.
2) OP cuts guy off. squeezes out of tight spot that guy was trying to keep him in.
3) Guy yells at OP for being a dick.
4) OP yells back at him for some inexplicable reason.
5) Guy isn't very smart and his vehicle hits another.
6) OP flees scene of an accident.
 

Filthy

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I never said you did. But your opinion of the situation is going to effect how it plays out. Now, if you're expecting everyone here to believe that you assessed the situation and had no possible idea that the guy being cheesed wasn't a possible/likely outcome you're either lying through your teeth or you're extremely naive.
Cheesed at what? that I got out of the spot and on my way in spite of what he did, regardless of whether it was by inattention or by design?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Cheesed at what? that I got out of the spot and on my way in spite of what he did, regardless of whether it was by inattention or by design?
Yes, you've painted the guy as being a troublemaker from the outset. Here's how you introduced him to us:

Guy behind him is in a big ol' lifted Chevy diesel, and gets RIGHT UP ON that guy, basically being a dick because he thought it was funny or could compensate for his small weiner in ways the truck could not.
You pretty consistently framed him as someone looking for a dancing partner until someone called you on not avoiding him. Then it became a whole bunch of "Well, I couldn't know his intentions."
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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1) OP gets bent because guy won't let him in.
2) OP cuts guy off. squeezes out of tight spot that guy was trying to keep him in.
3) Guy yells at OP for being a dick.
4) OP yells back at him for some inexplicable reason.
5) Guy isn't very smart and his vehicle hits another.
6) OP flees scene of an accident.
Pretty much what really happened
 

Filthy

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1) OP gets bent because guy won't let him in.
2) OP cuts guy off. squeezes out of tight spot that guy was trying to keep him in.
3) Guy yells at OP for being a dick.
4) OP yells back at him for some inexplicable reason.
5) Guy isn't very smart and his vehicle hits another.
6) OP flees scene of an accident.
3) In your opinion, I was being a dick? or he had reason to think I was being a dick?
4) There was no reason to yell back, other than now I know he was intentional in trying to block me in.

I'm meek in the sense that I'm gentle and patient. But I don't cower. Have you ever wrestled? I feel like if you could wrestle, you'd know what that felt like. Sex Chicken @Sex Chicken - was I in the wrong here?

6) It wasn't an accident, it was the result of negligence. It was a collision. And to flee implies haste, and perceived danger. I did not perceive any danger, there was a Sheriff's Deputy getting out of his car, and I know from prior experiences that they don't care who said what. They only care about who did something illegal. If the cop wanted to talk to me, he could have hit the lights or called for another unit. That didn't happen, and I didn't leave in a hurry.
 

Filthy

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Yes, you've painted the guy as being a troublemaker from the outset. Here's how you introduced him to us:



You pretty consistently framed him as someone looking for a dancing partner until someone called you on not avoiding him. Then it became a whole bunch of "Well, I couldn't know his intentions."
exactly - the picture I painted in the OP included my comprehensive recollection of past events. That should go without saying. When you questioned the specifics of what I did in the moment and why, I explained.

good time for that apology. no hurry.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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3) In your opinion, I was being a dick? or he had reason to think I was being a dick?
Neither.

I'm meek in the sense that I'm gentle and patient. But I don't cower. Have you ever wrestled?
I've grappled extensively. It's a big pat of the reason why I go out of my way to avoid confrontations with morons in parking lots.

6) It wasn't an accident, it was the result of negligence. It was a collision. And to flee implies haste, and perceived danger. I did not perceive any danger, there was a Sheriff's Deputy getting out of his car, and I know from prior experiences that they don't care who said what. They only care about who did something illegal. If the cop wanted to talk to me, he could have hit the lights or called for another unit. That didn't happen, and I didn't leave in a hurry.
Okay, we'll call it "leaving the scene of a collision" better?

exactly - the picture I painted in the OP included my comprehensive recollection of past events. That should go without saying. When you questioned the specifics of what I did in the moment and why, I explained.
Except your OP contradicts that. If that were the case, you wouldn't paint one person as "He was too close to the car in front of him, oh well" and the bad man in the big lifted truck as having an axe to grind.

good time for that apology. no hurry.
It's honestly hilarious that you don't see how your behavior could have lead to a really tragic outcome.
 

Filthy

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It's honestly hilarious that you don't see how your behavior could have lead to a really tragic outcome.
oh absolutely. I acknowledged that I should not have responded to his verbal aggression. 100% I should have just let it roll off and been on my way. But that's the extent of what I contributed to the situation. It wasn't illegal, and it wasn't outside of social norms.

Apologize for saying it was a situation I instigated.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Apologize for saying it was a situation I instigated.
The problem is you did. When it seemed apparent he wasn't planning to let you in, you could have let it slide. Instead you decided to show him who was boss. "This is a rental car and I grew up on a farm!"
 

Filthy

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The problem is you did. When it seemed apparent he wasn't planning to let you in, you could have let it slide. Instead you decided to show him who was boss. "This is a rental car and I grew up on a farm!"
again, you're taking my comprehensive review of the situation and applying it to my behavior in the moment. Your projecting your emotions or normal reaction on to my facts. But I didn't say to myself "Fuck this guy" before I backed out. I just backed out. Slow, because it was tight.

in retrospect, fuck that guy for being a dick. But in the moment I was just backing out and heading to my meeting. I wasn't showing anyone who was boss, I'm just explaining why I didn't give a second thought to backing out. Because it's a rental car, and because I can.
 

Filthy

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BeardOfKnowledge @ConorMcGregorsBeard: can you clarify whether or not you've wrestled?
If you're mostly a butt-scootin' bottom, I understand your hesitation in confronting aggressive manlets.
 

Sex Chicken

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3) In your opinion, I was being a dick? or he had reason to think I was being a dick?
4) There was no reason to yell back, other than now I know he was intentional in trying to block me in.

I'm meek in the sense that I'm gentle and patient. But I don't cower. Have you ever wrestled? I feel like if you could wrestle, you'd know what that felt like. Sex Chicken @Sex Chicken - was I in the wrong here?

6) It wasn't an accident, it was the result of negligence. It was a collision. And to flee implies haste, and perceived danger. I did not perceive any danger, there was a Sheriff's Deputy getting out of his car, and I know from prior experiences that they don't care who said what. They only care about who did something illegal. If the cop wanted to talk to me, he could have hit the lights or called for another unit. That didn't happen, and I didn't leave in a hurry.
No. You handled it completely right. It comes with experience, wisdom, and confidence. Jack asses jump out of their cars with their chests puffed up. We are old warrior lions with nothing left to prove. Only weak men who doubt themselves feel the need to try to meet every perceived slight with violence, it's because they doubt themselves and their courage, and they are always trying to reassure themselves they are tough guys because they don't believe it. We know what we are, and don't need to prove it to ourselves or anyone else. Of course we could walk through the world regulating and leaving a trail of suplexed mush in our wakes, but to what end?
You stared the man down and then had the pleasure of watching him self destruct. People who come over the top with aggression are venting fear. He was weak, you were strong.