General WSJ: The one state solution for Israel and Palestine

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Toelocku

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the locals have said. the locals want a Two-State solution.

The only ones opposed to that are the Pan-Arabists and a minority of Israeli Jews.
The power interests on both sides dont want peace...sad situation
 
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Efforts to identify the origins of Ashkenazi Jews through DNA analysis began in the 1990s. Currently, there are three types of genetic origin testing, autosomal DNA (atDNA), mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), and Y-chromosomal DNA (Y-DNA). Autosomal DNA is a mixture from an individual's entire ancestry, Y-DNA shows a male's lineage only along his strict paternal line, mtDNA shows any person's lineage only along the strict maternal line. Genome-wide association studies have also been employed to yield findings relevant to genetic origins.

Like most DNA studies of human migration patterns, the earliest studies on Ashkenazi Jews focused on the Y-DNA and mtDNA segments of the human genome. Both segments are unaffected by recombination(except for the ends of the Y chromosome – the pseudoautosomal regions known as PAR1 and PAR2), thus allowing tracing of direct maternal and paternal lineages.

These studies revealed that Ashkenazi Jews originate from an ancient (2000 BCE – 700 BCE) population of the Middle East who had spread to Europe.[136]

IschKabibble @IschKabibble you seem to have some interesting theories on my people. I recall you also falsely asserting that Jews have been “kicked out of every country they’ve been in for a reason.”
 

Never_Rolled

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Who did what has everything to do with what is a fair resolution...two states is fair imo
If you keep arguing over the past you never go forward, just like this thread.

I have no issue with 2 states. Israel has made the offer several times and have been turned down. Arafat got almost everything he asked for and still turned it down. The question you should be asking is why? Their public agenda doesn’t jive with their real agenda. My theory is once they have their own country and are actually required to self govern people will lose interest in them and their cash supply will dry up. Arafat died a millionaire. How could that possibly be? I believe they believe it is in their interest to play the perpetual victim so people like you can keep saying they are treated badly.
 

Toelocku

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If you keep arguing over the past you never go forward, just like this thread.

I have no issue with 2 states. Israel has made the offer several times and have been turned down. Arafat got almost everything he asked for and still turned it down. The question you should be asking is why? Their public agenda doesn’t jive with their real agenda. My theory is once they have their own country and are actually required to self govern people will lose interest in them and their cash supply will dry up. Arafat died a millionaire. How could that possibly be? I believe they believe it is in their interest to play the perpetual victim so people like you can keep saying they are treated badly.
The cash would have dried up and Arafat would have been murdered for it. Normal Palestinians believe they're fighting for a Homeland and they deserve to have it

Israel has no right to tell them they can't
 

yuki2054

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The holy lands are precious to humanity as a whole. We need peace.
The cash would have dried up and Arafat would have been murdered for it. Normal Palestinians believe they're fighting for a Homeland and they deserve to have it

Israel has no right to tell them they can't
 

Never_Rolled

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The cash would have dried up and Arafat would have been murdered for it. Normal Palestinians believe they're fighting for a Homeland and they deserve to have it

Israel has no right to tell them they can't
You completely ignored that Israel offered them statehood and they declined. This to me is the crux of what is going on.

“Normal” pals. elected Hamas to represent them too. Like it or not Israel is and will be fine doing nothing. The entire world is against them and they continue on. When the pals. actually want to broker peace, peace can be had. The only thing I fault Israel for is building more settlements in the WB. Everything else I don’t give a shit about just as Leigh @Leigh is tired of listening to Israel’s shit I too get tired of the other side. The problem will not be settled in our lifetime more then likely. I understand his POV as I feel the same. It’s ponderous and exhausting as nothing ever changes.
 

Splinty

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Efforts to identify the origins of Ashkenazi Jews through DNA analysis began in the 1990s. Currently, there are three types of genetic origin testing, autosomal DNA (atDNA), mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), and Y-chromosomal DNA (Y-DNA). Autosomal DNA is a mixture from an individual's entire ancestry, Y-DNA shows a male's lineage only along his strict paternal line, mtDNA shows any person's lineage only along the strict maternal line. Genome-wide association studies have also been employed to yield findings relevant to genetic origins.

Like most DNA studies of human migration patterns, the earliest studies on Ashkenazi Jews focused on the Y-DNA and mtDNA segments of the human genome. Both segments are unaffected by recombination(except for the ends of the Y chromosome – the pseudoautosomal regions known as PAR1 and PAR2), thus allowing tracing of direct maternal and paternal lineages.

These studies revealed that Ashkenazi Jews originate from an ancient (2000 BCE – 700 BCE) population of the Middle East who had spread to Europe.[136]

IschKabibble @IschKabibble you seem to have some interesting theories on my people. I recall you also falsely asserting that Jews have been “kicked out of every country they’ve been in for a reason.”

Are you Ashkenazi?

Please don't die son
 

IschKabibble

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Efforts to identify the origins of Ashkenazi Jews through DNA analysis began in the 1990s. Currently, there are three types of genetic origin testing, autosomal DNA (atDNA), mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), and Y-chromosomal DNA (Y-DNA). Autosomal DNA is a mixture from an individual's entire ancestry, Y-DNA shows a male's lineage only along his strict paternal line, mtDNA shows any person's lineage only along the strict maternal line. Genome-wide association studies have also been employed to yield findings relevant to genetic origins.

Like most DNA studies of human migration patterns, the earliest studies on Ashkenazi Jews focused on the Y-DNA and mtDNA segments of the human genome. Both segments are unaffected by recombination(except for the ends of the Y chromosome – the pseudoautosomal regions known as PAR1 and PAR2), thus allowing tracing of direct maternal and paternal lineages.

These studies revealed that Ashkenazi Jews originate from an ancient (2000 BCE – 700 BCE) population of the Middle East who had spread to Europe.[136]

IschKabibble @IschKabibble you seem to have some interesting theories on my people. I recall you also falsely asserting that Jews have been “kicked out of every country they’ve been in for a reason.”
Seems like you have a false recollection of my assertion. Are you unable to see the clear genetic difference between an Ashkenazi Jew (Barbara Streisand) and a Mizrahi Jew (Ariel Helwani)? And here's an example of Jews getting kicked out of a country recently. Shit happens. Don't shift the blame on me...

Jewish sect expelled from Guatemalan village after clashes with Mayan villagers

Members of an ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect have been expelled from a lakeside Guatemalan village after clashing with the local Mayan population.

Around 230 members of Lev Tahor, an intensely religious Jewish group that rejects the state of Israel, moved to Guatemala earlier this year after fleeing amid allegations of child abuse in Canada.

Jewish sect expelled from Guatemalan village after clashes with Mayan villagers
 

IschKabibble

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I only pop into these conversations to play devil's advocate. Some of the arguments against Palestinians are ridiculous.

 

yuki2054

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You add absolutely nothing to every thread you post in
Thirty years ago Jews and Arabs were able to coexist together peacefully. I know This because one of my dad's friends had a girlfriend over there. We have moved towards such antagonism that God help them restore some normality back to their lives!
 

Thuglife13

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Thirty years ago Jews and Arabs were able to coexist together peacefully. I know This because one of my dad's friends had a girlfriend over there. We have moved towards such antagonism that God help them restore some normality back to their lives!
Only a Yuki rap for peace can save the holy land now...
 

yuki2054

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Only a Yuki rap for peace can save the holy land now...
Heaven help us now. Blacks and whites unite. Stop the fight. Can't you see it's futility. And for every angel sent to the sky. Humanity has a cry.

So I ask you please. Stop the hating. Cry die why.

Under the wings of a butterfly lit's our hope. Not in the fear of war. Two of the greatest world religions. And they treat each other bad. Real bad. So bad it seems mad.

Now the ladybird has spoke. Peace Shalom Salam.
 

Thuglife13

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Heaven help us now. Blacks and whites unite. Stop the fight. Can't you see it's futility. And for every angel sent to the sky. Humanity has a cry.

So I ask you please. Stop the hating. Cry die why.

Under the wings of a butterfly lit's our hope. Not in the fear of war. Two of the greatest world religions. And they treat each other bad. Real bad. So bad it seems mad.

Now the ladybird has spoke. Peace Shalom Salam.
:fire::fire::fire::moneybag::moneybag::moneybag:
 

RaginCajun

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Heaven help us now. Blacks and whites unite. Stop the fight. Can't you see it's futility. And for every angel sent to the sky. Humanity has a cry.

So I ask you please. Stop the hating. Cry die why.

Under the wings of a butterfly lit's our hope. Not in the fear of war. Two of the greatest world religions. And they treat each other bad. Real bad. So bad it seems mad.

Now the ladybird has spoke. Peace Shalom Salam.
 

jason73

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Heaven help us now. Blacks and whites unite. Stop the fight. Can't you see it's futility. And for every angel sent to the sky. Humanity has a cry.

So I ask you please. Stop the hating. Cry die why.

Under the wings of a butterfly lit's our hope. Not in the fear of war. Two of the greatest world religions. And they treat each other bad. Real bad. So bad it seems mad.

Now the ladybird has spoke. Peace Shalom Salam.
you should put that over a beat and post a vid