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tang

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^^^^ EXACTLY~!!

it was never about the Kurds, just want to grill Trump

and it's funny how it's most of the same people who's calling for Gun Control to save lives are the ones who wants to send Americans in foreign land to die.
 

Filthy

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would you drop everything in your life and leave your family to go fight for the Kurds right now?
no. because:

I stood my watch.

and

I didn't make them any promises.

but Donnie hasn't, and he did.
 

tang

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no. because:

I stood my watch.

and

I didn't make them any promises.

but Donnie hasn't, and he did.
thank you for your service!

so it's about accountability of words? is Donnie the first president to not fulfill his promises?

that sux when someone lies but he seems to be keeping promises to Americans, is he not?

he is the POTUS
 

Filthy

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thank you for your service!

so it's about accountability of words? was Donnie the first president to not fulfill his promises?
it's about trust.

our powerless allies will start hedging their bets when dealing with us. Our enemies will exploit that lack of trust.
He's doing the right thing (pulling back our military from around the world) but with the worst possible motives (political self-preservation).

It's a shit-show, and the damage to our relationships with our proxies will only be overcome by a new administration.
 

tang

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it's about trust.

our powerless allies will start hedging their bets when dealing with us. Our enemies will exploit that lack of trust.
He's doing the right thing (pulling back our military from around the world) but with the worst possible motives (political self-preservation).

It's a shit-show, and the damage to our relationships with our proxies will only be overcome by a new administration.
true if you only look at it from other country's point of view, but that's how things always been throughout the history.

some president works his agenda, builds foreign relations, execute his plans until the next president comes around.
didn't Obama do the same things for the Iraq War? why do we have ISIS in the first place?

Are you gonna blame the US for everything that happened in the world? because it seems that other countries that the US helped don't even remember that US was there to help when it mattered and only things they remember is the fact that they left.
 

Filthy

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true if you only look at it from other country's point of view, but that's how things always been throughout the history.

some president works his agenda, builds foreign relations, execute his plans until the next president comes around.
didn't Obama do the same things for the Iraq War? why do we have ISIS in the first place?

Are you gonna blame the US for everything that happened in the world? because it seems that other countries that the US helped don't even remember that US was there to help when it mattered and only things they remember is the fact that they left.
FWIW - Cheney and the Bush Administration basically created ISIS.

I'm not going to hold the Greatest Nation on Earth to the standard of lesser nations. We should withdraw from the ME, but we should do so strategically - in order to ensure that our allies in liberty and self-determination aren't wiped off the map.
 

Jesus X

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after testifying against amber guyger
maybe the cops would have hired some mercenary to do that because it sounds like either a "controlled pair" or a Mozambique drill with only one shot to the body but the only reason cops would have to do it after he testified is for vengence they could have had him killed before he testified and she would have walked or gotten less time seems dumb to do it after.
 
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Jesus X

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The Afghan war is officially old enough for someone born after it started to fight in it today. Happy 18th Afghan war!
you know what is trippy some 35 year old could have fought in that war when it started as a new soldier, had a kid (or several) and they both could have still been in that war together today.
 

tang

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FWIW - Cheney and the Bush Administration basically created ISIS.

I'm not going to hold the Greatest Nation on Earth to the standard of lesser nations. We should withdraw from the ME, but we should do so strategically - in order to ensure that our allies in liberty and self-determination aren't wiped off the map.
i can live with that.
Trump's methods are too brash but at least he's making moves and in order to make moves, maybe we need a hothead like Trump or else we'll never leave anywhere.
 

Filthy

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i can live with that.
Trump's methods are too brash but at least he's making moves and in order to make moves, maybe we need a hothead like Trump or else we'll never leave anywhere.
I think when the political heat gets too high he throws out chaos to take the wind out of whatever is threatening him.

In this case, he's doing something that's universally reviled, even by people who support the action in principle, and my guess is that it's to take the focus off of the quid pro quo investigation. I think what he did is pretty much what every POTUS has done for the last 100 years, but that doesn't make it OK.
 
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you know what is trippy some 35 year old could have fought in that war when it started as a new soldier, had a kid (or several) and they both could have still been in that war together today.
I served on an overseas base that was started right after 9/11 to forward deploy for the GWOT. There were guys there that were there when it opened as privates. They are back and they will be retiring from the military in 2 more years...holy shit.
 

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i can live with that.
Trump's methods are too brash but at least he's making moves and in order to make moves, maybe we need a hothead like Trump or else we'll never leave anywhere.
I support ripping the bandaid off the middle east and letting others enjoy Syria as much as we enjoyed Iraq and Lybia.
This is not the way to do it.
Yes I've served. Yes I've been deployed. Hell, I'm still in, part-time, anyways.
 

Filthy

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you know what is trippy some 35 year old could have fought in that war when it started as a new soldier, had a kid (or several) and they both could have still been in that war together today.
you wrote 'trippy' but I think you meant 'gross' or 'disturbing' or maybe 'shameful'.
 

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North Korea warns US, Europe against raising missile tests at UN
North Korea warned the United States, Britain, France and Germany on Monday against raising the issue of Pyongyang's missile tests at the United Nations Security Council saying it would "further urge our desire to defend our sovereignty."

The 15-member council is due to meet behind closed doors on Tuesday after North Korea said last week it had test-fired a new submarine-launched ballistic missile. The discussion was requested by Germany with the support of Britain and France.

"We know well that the United States is behind impure moves of the UK, France and Germany," North Korea's UN Ambassador Kim Song told a small group of reporters at Pyongyang's UN mission.

"The United States and its followers should bear in mind that if they raise the issue of our self-defensive measures at the UN Security Council meeting in this moment, it will further urge our desire to defend our sovereignty," Kim said.

The missile launch last Wednesday was the most provocative by North Korea since it resumed a dialogue with the US in 2018. Security Council resolutions ban Pyongyang from using ballistic missile technology.

The test came ahead of fresh nuclear talks between North Korea and the US in Sweden. The working-level talks were broken offon Saturday after Pyongyang blamed Washington for inflexibility.
 

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Police: Driver pulled out gun in roadway spat over Trump, Warren bumper stickers in Moorhead
About 12 p.m. on Monday, Oct. 7, officers were sent to a commercial area along Eighth Street South near the Interstate 94 interchange for a disturbance call. A woman told police she was driving southbound in the 1000 block of Eighth Street South near Concordia College when a man pulled up next to her and yelled at her, saying he disliked her bumper sticker supporting Warren.

Moorhead police spokesman Capt. Deric Swenson later said the man’s vehicle had a pro-Donald Trump sticker on it.

Police said in a news release that the man, later identified as Joseph Schumacher, then pointed to his own political bumper sticker and talked about his different political views. Swenson said the woman had “engaged” with the man for about eight blocks before he drove past the woman's vehicle and held up a handgun.

Officers were able to locate the suspect inside a restaurant in the Brookdale Shopping Center and found a loaded handgun in his vehicle's center console, according to the release. Police said the passenger in the suspect's vehicle confirmed what reportedly happened.
 

tang

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I think when the political heat gets too high he throws out chaos to take the wind out of whatever is threatening him.

In this case, he's doing something that's universally reviled, even by people who support the action in principle, and my guess is that it's to take the focus off of the quid pro quo investigation. I think what he did is pretty much what every POTUS has done for the last 100 years, but that doesn't make it OK.
for sure there's an agenda behind all the moves Trump makes but I don't think it all comes down to the quid pro quo investigation because the reason General Mattis stepped down was because Trump initially was big on pulling out of Syria, and that whole fiasco started about a year ago.

and here's another perspective.
During the first year of the Korean War, the Americans gained lots of momentum where they could have pushed all the way through North Korea which would have unified North and South Korea until the Chinese got involved and pushed American troops back south. The combat continued throughout for couple more years until they had the armistice agreement signed by US, NK, and China. For 70 years, cease fire remains but also the US involvement remained.
I wish US would have pushed all the way through when they had a chance and left Korea after but that's asking too much when around 36,000 American troops died during the Korean War. But whatever they were trying to do after the ceasefire, US is involved and it's been around 70 years past, and US is stuck in that region more than any other region, after 70 years, they still can't leave.
The scale of things are smaller than the Korean peninsula with the situation in Syria, but there's no for sure time and date of when is the best time to leave. They still can't get out of Afghanistan, every little small reason keeps drawing them back in.