A 9/11 Conspiracy Film Worth Watching

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IschKabibble

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In regards to the World Trade Center, the no-plane theory stuff is nonsense. It was filmed on home video by many different people. And for the government to conspire with news outlets to fake a live shot is just ludicrous.

That's the kind of stuff that makes Lamont Cranston @Dougie swoop in and give blanket rainbows. Did you even watch the original vid Dougie? I'm sure you would find at least one or two things that make you reconsider how you feel about what went down that day.

I do agree with SAJ @Vicious Hellbows about the plane speed anomaly. That's the stuff that really gets me wondering. The planes were traveling well over safe operating speeds at low altitude. And there were multiple reports that the supposed pilots weren't even able to handle flying a little Cessna. We're supposed to believe the dudes just showed up on game day and got lucky flying massive jets for the first time? Come on now...
 
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Yeah, the no plane theory (at least the one's that hit the Twin Towers) is pretty ridiculous. Now...were they commercial planes? I have serious doubts. The speed they flew at that low altitude is the first red flag. Also, the close up pictures of the planes that hit the towers look nothing like United & US Air planes. And where is the all the plane debris in the crater in Pennsylvania? It just disintegrate? Impossible. Not one body part found at the scene either.
 
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I Wild Each It said:
Yeah, the no plane theory (at least the one's that hit the Twin Towers) is pretty ridiculous. Now...were they commercial planes? I have serious doubts. The speed they flew at that low altitude is the first red flag. Also, the close up pictures of the planes that hit the towers look nothing like United & US Air planes. And where is the all the plane debris in the crater in Pennsylvania? It just disintegrate? Impossible. Not one body part found at the scene either.
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Not being sarcastic, is that true about the type? Also, what happened to the other one's and all of the people?

I agree, thought that one in PA was strange within nothing but a crater......found that strange immediately and still do to this day.....but what about the recordings of the people on that flight? Where did they all go?
 
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Thanks op, I'll check this out! I always enjoy shit like this whether I'm on board or not.
 
SAJ

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Ish Kabibble said:
In regards to the World Trade Center, the no-plane theory stuff is nonsense. It was filmed on home video by many different people. And for the government to conspire with news outlets to fake a live shot is just ludicrous.

That's the kind of stuff that makes Lamont Cranston @Dougie swoop in and give blanket rainbows. Did you even watch the original vid Dougie? I'm sure you would find at least one or two things that make you reconsider how you feel about what went down that day.

I do agree with SAJ @Vicious Hellbows about the plane speed anomaly. That's the stuff that really gets me wondering. The planes were traveling well over safe operating speeds at low altitude. And there were multiple reports that the supposed pilots weren't even able to handle flying a little Cessna. We're supposed to believe the dudes just showed up on game day and got lucky flying massive jets for the first time? Come on now...
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Well regarding the no plane theory there is an interesting point that gets overlooked. The way the plane entered the building. Experts describe this as 'cartoon physics'
There should have been a collision at the point of impact, but there wasn't. Instead the plane literally went through the building like nothing and the nose of the plane come out the other side of the
building fully intact. This impossible.

They removed the shot where the nose comes out the other side but it was too late. We've already seen it. Later their explanation was that its was not the nose of the plane coming out through the other side but a piece of debris. Bullshit.
 
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Ish Kabibble said:
In regards to the World Trade Center, the no-plane theory stuff is nonsense. It was filmed on home video by many different people. And for the government to conspire with news outlets to fake a live shot is just ludicrous.
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The video I posted explains what compositing technology is. The theory is that compositing technology was used to fake the plane crash. Indeed it sounds ludicrous until you further look into it.

Also, coincidentally the news reporter that reported 9/11 live also specialises in video compositing. In 2001 he was advertising his services. He claimed he had access to green screen compositing, helicopter videography and an Avid system. The exact same system to insert an aeroplane in real time. It shows you his document in the video.
 
IschKabibble

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Vicious Hellbows said:
The video I posted explains what compositing technology is. The theory is that compositing technology was used to fake the plane crash. Indeed it sounds ludicrous until you further look into it.

Also, coincidentally the news reporter that reported 9/11 live also specialises in video compositing. In 2001 he was advertising his services. He claimed he had access to green screen compositing, helicopter videography and an Avid system. The exact same system to insert an aeroplane in real time. It shows you his document in the video.
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Yeah but you have to remember multiple home videos were taken of the 2nd plane hitting the towers. It's unreasonable to think all of them were doctored. Not to mention the hundreds of people watching on the streets of NYC that saw the collision in person.

Given enough velocity, you can make water cut through steel. It's not too far fetched to think a plane traveling at almost 600 mph could enter a steel building without much resistance. The video that shows the nose coming out of the other end is convincing, but you have to look at the big picture to realize it's bullshit.
 
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Ish Kabibble said:
Yeah but you have to remember multiple home videos were taken of the 2nd plane hitting the towers. It's unreasonable to think all of them were doctored. Not to mention the hundreds of people watching on the streets of NYC that saw the collision in person.

Given enough velocity, you can make water cut through steel. It's not too far fetched to think a plane traveling at almost 600 mph could enter a steel building without much resistance. The video that shows the nose coming out of the other end is convincing, but you have to look at the big picture to realize it's bullshit.
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But how are all those people certain in what they saw? Because is definitely wasn't an commercial airline that's for sure. Also the shot that showed the plane hitting the building was interesting. Why didn't the chopper follow the plane and then show the collision? Instead it zoomed all the way in and you only saw the the 'plane" enter the last frame.

I don't know if it was a missile where composting technology was used to hide/change the shape of the flying object. Or if it was some type of military jet.

Still doesn't explain the cartoon like physics. The plane disappeared into the building. There would have been bounce like effect where parts of the plane rebounded off the building. Instead the building sucked the plane inside. Don't you find it strange that they covered up the shot were the nose came out the building? This wasn't shown again after the live broadcast. And when it wa brought up they just said it was debris. Sounds like bad special effects to me
 
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I know which shot you're talking about. It is very convincing, but you have to think logically. If that was the only shot of the second impact on video, you'd have a case, but there are many, many shots of a large jet hitting the second tower.


Edit: Here's the shot you mentioned from the same video above:
 
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IschKabibble @Ish Kabibble In your opinion what do you think it was that hit the WTC? Im open to all thoughts. What baffles me and many others is how the nose of the plane was still intact after the impact, and comes cleanly out the otherside. To put things in perspective a bird can destroy the nose of a plane if they both collide, but a building doesn't even scratch the nose of a plane

The video clips were all similar. They are zoomed on to the WTC and then caught the plane coming in at the last second. Why can't we see the full path and navigation that the plane took?

Im going to do some more research on this. The more I find out the bigger and bigger the hole gets.
 
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IschKabibble @Ish Kabibble In your opinion what do you think it was that hit the WTC?
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Watch the last video I posted in its entirety. It's a compilation of live news coverage and home videos filmed by regular citizens. There's no doubt that planes hit the WTC. That's the kind of conspiracy stuff I was talking about in the OP. Ridiculous claims like that only serve to disrupt from focus on legitimate anomalies from that day. Now if you want to talk about the Pentagon, that's a different story...

Stay skeptical when reading up on conspiracies like this. Anything can sound reasonable if the sources are cherry picked.
 
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Vicious Hellbows said:
The video clips were all similar. They are zoomed on to the WTC and then caught the plane coming in at the last second. Why can't we see the full path and navigation that the plane took?
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Watch again. There are a number of shots that stay wide and show the plane's full approach.
 
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Ish Kabibble said:
Watch the last video I posted in its entirety. It's a compilation of live news coverage and home videos filmed by regular citizens. There's no doubt that planes hit the WTC. That's the kind of conspiracy stuff I was talking about in the OP. Ridiculous claims like that only serve to disrupt from focus on legitimate anomalies from that day. Now if you want to talk about the Pentagon, that's a different story...

Stay skeptical when reading up on conspiracies like this. Anything can sound reasonable if the sources are cherry picked.
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So are you against the official narrative but just don't believe in the 'no plane theory'? I must say until someone can scientifically debunks the actual physics of the collision or even the nose penetrating through the other end and not just dismiss it as debris. Im still believing that no commercial planes were used that day.
 
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IschKabibble @Ish Kabibble If you haven't already, watch the first video I posted and tell me your thoughts after
 
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Kai simonsen (The news reporter who reported the attack live) response to how the nose penetrated the building.

" Its obviously possible because it happened."

"Whether or not it can sufficiently be explained is another issue. There are a lot of things in life that cannot be fully explained"

Im sorry but that would not hold up in court or a scientific debate. This is what I mean. Until someone can tell me how its physically possible for the plastic nose of a plane to penetrate through a steel building and come out through the other side still fully intact. Im not buying it.
 
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