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IschKabibble

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For all the places that we agree here, this one we disagree.
It does not matter what Ukraine President says. Ukraine is still in need of our cover, money, military aid.
He does not want to be involved in this and has said as much. He cannot come out and say that Trump, who might win in 2020, pressured him and still expect Republicans or Trump to bless continued support of him and his country.
 
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In the first 10 seconds he makes a false appeal "they did nothing to get it released".
That's not true.

Literally the only reason Trump didn't get totally fucked here is that the state department forced the funds to be released before Ukraine president followed through with public declaration. The public declaration on CNN was already scheduled.
You can't just claim the did nothing because the declaration was stopped after the state department convinced the whitehouse it was illegal to hold the funds.

Trump froze congressional funds (illegally which was why they were forced to be released)
Trump ran a shadow foreign policy via Rudy Giuliani (not a government employee) outside of the state department.
Trump didn't willingly release the funds.
Ukrainians made arrangements to make public declaration of Biden investigation.
Ukrainians then stopped those plans when funds were released...again, not by Trump's schedule.


If just investigating corruption in a usual manner...
Why the fuck is Rudy running policy?
Why is the executive freezing congressional funds without notifying congress or the state department? (again, illegal)
Why did the Ukrainians setup to give the public declaration but then pullback after funds were released?
 

IschKabibble

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Why is the executive freezing congressional funds without notifying congress or the state department? (again, illegal)
No excuse if it's illegal, but he won't be removed from office, and good luck getting people to care enough to affect the 2020 election after Trump lays his cards on the table.
 
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No excuse if it's illegal, but he won't be removed from office, and good luck getting people to care enough to affect the 2020 election after Trump lays his cards on the table.
I don't disagree with any of that.
 

MMAHAWK

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That’s all you’ve got. I am simply not allowed to express my opinion whereas you are.
Hey brother do me a favor? Since I put him on ignore
Can you start posting articles from Salon, huffpost, and variety so I don’t miss out on all the intellectual opinions of 17 year old girls?
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Hey brother do me a favor? Since I put him on ignore
Can you start posting articles from Salon, huffpost, and variety so I don’t miss out on all the intellectual opinions of 17 year old girls?
I find it amusing, those on here who often talk about using the ignore function, still manage to read and respond to the person they have on ignore. I am sure you will still see what ol' Kiwi has to say.
 

MMAHAWK

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I find it amusing, those on here who often talk about using the ignore function, still manage to read and respond to the person they have on ignore. I am sure you will still see what ol' Kiwi has to say.
He’s been quoting me lots lately and I saw a ignored member shortly after my posts. It’s really not that complicated.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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He’s been quoting me lots lately and I saw a ignored member shortly after my posts. It’s really not that complicated.
So instead of just skimming over his posts, you decided to block him and then have to click read to see what he says?

Seems like you're now going to even more effort to read his posts instead of ignore him.

And I am the drunk one?