General Trump kills top Iranian general

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It's a mixture of things I guess. In no particular order.

The constant lying.
The way he talks about and treats women.
His casual and not so casual racism.
The way his bankruptcy ruined tens of thousands lives but he walked away Scott free.
Swindling charities.
Cheating at golf.

I could go on. But thinking about it. It's mainly the lies.

I can't stand liars and this dementia riddled cunt is possibly the biggest liar I've ever heard.

He lies almost every sentence he speaks.
He's an ignorant retard who epitomizes the worst of the worst in America
 

Hauler

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So Iran is looking for a new general?

Trump creating jobs all over the place.
 

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So how do you feel about Canada's leader Justin Trudeau?

He doesn't really make a blip on my radar tbh.

Whatever he does or says will never affect me.

I like Canada because they are in the commonwealth but they don't play cricket so I have no business with them.

I'm guessing you have beef with him though?
 

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Relations were thawing. There were still huge wrinkles such as nazreen zahari etc but generally speaking Europe was happy. Germany and France were considering opening factories and business there same as the UK. It looked like the soft diplomacy might work.

Huh that's your measure of working?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I'm guessing you have beef with him though?
He's guilty of pretty much everything on your list of why Trump is a disgusting human being less the bankruptcies. Unlike Trump where the accusations are largely implied, JT has been caught red handed.

Trump as far as I can tell is about 25% of the person he's portrayed to be in the media. He's just not the super villain that we were promised.
 

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Huh that's your measure of working?

Well tbf we don't really know how it would have worked out.

The 'investment' was killed pretty much after a year.

I'm no sympathiser to those nut jobs in charge. If a way to clear the slate and give the people what they want was easy then I'd say yeah.

But your guy has basically stopped that.

What would you do?

Fuck the rag heads?

Kill the rag heads?

I'm genuinely interested to know what scheme you have that was better than the one Europe and Obama thrashed out.
 

Splinty

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Well tbf we don't really know how it would have worked out.

The 'investment' was killed pretty much after a year.

I'm no sympathiser to those nut jobs in charge. If a way to clear the slate and give the people what they want was easy then I'd say yeah.

But your guy has basically stopped that.

What would you do?

Fuck the rag heads?

Kill the rag heads?

I'm genuinely interested to know what scheme you have that was better than the one Europe and Obama thrashed out.
now you're just putting words in my mouth to make my position seem more extreme after I thought it strange that your measure of success was about private companies not being encumbered by sanctions.

I don't have a real problem coming to the table and thawing relations.
I just find the measure of European multinationals looking to get the same oil contracts as China and Russia a strange metric of success.

European companies were going to make a bunch of money okay...

While Iran continued interventions against Western allies throughout the world. While Iran met the letter of the agreement and not the spirit of it.

It's not as if Iran doesn't want those companies setting up right now.

This is of course the crux of the argument. Iran looked to have a deal related only to nuclear weapons and keep other interventions out of the larger agreement.

But that isn't really my point. I'm just wondering how your metric of companies setting up shop is a marker of success.
 

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now you're just putting words in my mouth to make my position seem more extreme after I thought it strange that your measure of success was about private companies not being encumbered by sanctions.

I don't have a real problem coming to the table and thawing relations.
I just find the measure of European multinationals looking to get the same oil contracts as China and Russia a strange metric of success.

European companies were going to make a bunch of money okay...

While Iran continued interventions against Western allies throughout the world. While Iran met the letter of the agreement and not the spirit of it.

It's not as if Iran doesn't want those companies setting up right now.

This is of course the crux of the argument. Iran looked to have a deal related only to nuclear weapons and keep other interventions out of the larger agreement.

But that isn't really my point. I'm just wondering how your metric of companies setting up shop is a marker of success.

I apologise if you think I thought you extreme.

I don’t, I’m happy to make that clear.

And to be clear. The EU. And I hate to use that word. But Europe wasn’t trying to use oil as the revenue collector. They were talking Renault car plants. Mercedes car plants. Real investment. God knows what the uk could offer them. Maybe Some shortbread factories.

But that was on the table.

The big thing for the EU is the oil and gas pipe. The one that comes through
Qatar and goes through Estonia. and goes through Iraq.

We were offering stability and open commerce.

We were being modern.

Trump has fucked that now.

You might like the strong man approach. But it only works if there is a strategy.

You cannot say Trump, with his history of not having a strategy, and admitting strategy is for losers has a strategy.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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your dictatorship.

One of many you have procured.
1) That's the most ridiculous defense I've ever heard.
2) This is now the third time that I'm pointing out to you that you're making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know anything about.
 

FINGERS

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1) That's the most ridiculous defense I've ever heard.
2) This is now the third time that I'm pointing out to you that you're making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know anything about.

Ok straw man.

You either don’t know your history or you are an idiot.

I am still at the stage where I don’t class you as an idiot.

It might change soon.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Ok straw man.

You either don’t know your history or you are an idiot.

I am still at the stage where I don’t class you as an idiot.

It might change soon.
What exactly do you think my national background is?