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Sheepdog

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Using anecdotal evidence to support your views on national policy?

You sound like a George Floyd protester
I see Flo Rida just nearly cracked the 2,000 daily cases mark for the first time. Looks like you, Cali and Texas are finally gearing up to make sure New York doesn't have all the fun.
 
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I see Flo Rida just nearly cracked the 2,000 daily cases mark for the first time. Looks like you, Cali and Texas are finally gearing up to make sure New York doesn't have all the fun.
Our "far more testing but lower infection rate!!!!!!!" claim is starting to fall apart
 
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Sheepdog @Dr. Prosper Meniere nope, these are still the straws we're grasping at


Statistics show the COVID-19 testing has been ramped up across the state, which appears to correspond with the higher case counts. The percentage of positive tests is lower compared with the same period four weeks ago.
 

Sheepdog

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Our "far more testing but lower infection rate!!!!!!!" claim is starting to fall apart
I think the scariest result for the US is Arizona. 40+ degree days now and they're hitting records. I was telling Splinty that based on Australia, the 'summer will save us' hypothesis just didn't hold up. That's not to say that it doesn't help - it almost certainly does - but it's just not such a significant factor to outweigh so many others, as people were falsely hoping.

The craziest thing is that media still talks about about a US 'second wave'. Even here you will hear a story start with 'US officials are worried about a second wave'. When the fuck did the first wave ever stop? The reduced numbers simply reflect the fact that New York and New Jersey brought down their massive rates, while basically the rest of the country either stayed the same or got worse.
 

Eric Trump

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I think the scariest result for the US is Arizona. 40+ degree days now and they're hitting records. I was telling Splinty that based on Australia, the 'summer will save us' hypothesis just didn't hold up. That's not to say that it doesn't help - it almost certainly does - but it's just not such a significant factor to outweigh so many others, as people were falsely hoping.

The craziest thing is that media still talks about about a US 'second wave'. Even here you will hear a story start with 'US officials are worried about a second wave'. When the fuck did the first wave ever stop? The reduced numbers simply reflect the fact that New York and New Jersey brought down their massive rates, while basically the rest of the country either stayed the same or got worse.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onpekECDESM
 
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I think the scariest result for the US is Arizona. 40+ degree days now and they're hitting records. I was telling Splinty that based on Australia, the 'summer will save us' hypothesis just didn't hold up. That's not to say that it doesn't help - it almost certainly does - but it's just not such a significant factor to outweigh so many others, as people were falsely hoping.
I've read that humidity helps kill the virus faster in the air and on surfaces. If true it would be good for Florida and terrible for dry Arizona.

The craziest thing is that media still talks about about a US 'second wave'. Even here you will hear a story start with 'US officials are worried about a second wave'. When the fuck did the first wave ever stop? The reduced numbers simply reflect the fact that New York and New Jersey brought down their massive rates, while basically the rest of the country either stayed the same or got worse.
Exactly. New York was recording 10,000 new cases a day and now they're under 1,000 most days. Add to it that numbers are down in states like New Jersey, Michigan, and Louisiana and those four states combined could explain why we are down nationally in new daily cases compared to the mid April-May peak.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Coming from a guy who has less education than any doctor, I’m sure we should take your word for it.

Protest Is a Profound Public Health Intervention.' Why So Many Doctors Are Supporting Protests in the Middle of the COVID-19 Pandemic

 

Sheepdog

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A spike means there is an increase in total. That's not the same as the phrasing of a 'second wave'. A second wave in the beginning of the discourse meant you significantly reduce numbers, only to see them roar back again. Splinty would take about it 'coming back in the fall'. But in order to get a second wave, you need the first wave to crash. The US is still in the first wave. You never got the numbers down significantly in the country, New York and New Jersey excepted.

You are seeing significant localized spikes. In Florida, Texas, California, Arizona, North Carolina etc. Things getting better in New York is masking things getting worse elsewhere.

Kudlow knows he is talking shit, that's why he pounds a bottle of whiskey before he comes on to spin nonsense.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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I think the scariest result for the US is Arizona. 40+ degree days now and they're hitting records. I was telling Splinty that based on Australia, the 'summer will save us' hypothesis just didn't hold up. That's not to say that it doesn't help - it almost certainly does - but it's just not such a significant factor to outweigh so many others, as people were falsely hoping.

The craziest thing is that media still talks about about a US 'second wave'. Even here you will hear a story start with 'US officials are worried about a second wave'. When the fuck did the first wave ever stop? The reduced numbers simply reflect the fact that New York and New Jersey brought down their massive rates, while basically the rest of the country either stayed the same or got worse.
we prevented a 2nd wave by not stopping the 1st wave.
 

Filthy

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best data I've seen so far indicated that humidity from 40-80% was good for community spread. Obviously the high, dry temperatures help AZ, but you also have the community to consider. A lot of 'indoor' activities, a lot of elderly population, a lot of poor immigrants who are packed in their apartment instead of out working...

A virus that was overly sensitive to heat or humidity wouldn't have as much transmission success as this virus has enjoyed. The 'summer lull' was always based on irrational denial or optimism.
 
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Filthy

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it's almost impossible to get RV storage down here because of the Canadian travel ban.
Lots of Canooks are figuring out that you can't actually full-time an RV through an AZ summer.
 
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it's almost impossible to get RV storage down here because of the Canadian travel ban.
Lots of Canooks are figuring out that you can't actually full-time an RV through an AZ summer.
You've gone from fake quoting me to not quoting me but commenting on every post I make.

Go do some bicep curls
 

Hauler

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the 'summer will save us' hypothesis just didn't hold up
In order for that to work, you need to let people go outside.

Open it up. All of it. Fuck the masks. Fuck the fear. Fuck the pandering.

If people don't want to risk it, they can stay home. To the victor go the spoils.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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In order for that to work, you need to let people go outside.

Open it up. All of it. Fuck the masks. Fuck the fear. Fuck the pandering.

If people don't want to risk it, they can stay home. To the victor go the spoils.
how exactly does that behavior lower the transmissibility of the virus, or decrease it's lethality?