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Splinty

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Sorry Biden Boys but this isn't looking to good for ol Joey boy.....

Wrap up the precelebration high fives and happiness because it's .....


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xGytDsqkQY8


And we're calling.....

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbeS15sHZ0


Graph is wrong and reagardless large dumps occur as precincts in densely populated urban centers finished their counts. Guess who those urban centers are voting for mostly?
voting batch sizes are not standardized. They're based on the amount of votes in that precinct. Sometimes it'll be a smaller batch and sometimes a larger batch.

At the end of the day this is a particularly unique situation since if you're (general you not personal you) wrong, you're actually supporting the attacking of legal voters under the auspices of rooting out voter fraud. You're not attacking the other side. You're attacking the election and voters themselves. And with that this type of misinformation is actually the election fraud. If you attack an election and legal voters in an attempt to overturn the election through crony appointees and pressuring bureaucrats through threat of career what are you? Ironically these are the actions of historically communist states.
 

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Graph is wrong and reagardless large dumps occur as precincts in densely populated urban centers finished their counts. Guess who those urban centers are voting for mostly?
voting batch sizes are not standardized. They're based on the amount of votes in that precinct. Sometimes it'll be a smaller batch and sometimes a larger batch.

At the end of the day this is a particularly unique situation since if you're (general you not personal you) wrong, you're actually supporting the attacking of legal voters under the auspices of rooting out voter fraud. You're not attacking the other side. You're attacking the election and voters themselves. And with that this type of misinformation is actually the election fraud. If you attack an election and legal voters in an attempt to overturn the election through crony appointees and pressuring bureaucrats through threat of career what are you? Ironically these are the actions of historically communist states.
I can appreciate your hard work and dedication to the cause . I admire that ...but

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Now if I end up wrong ...or in the case very wrong and Biden takes office Im Shipping you a bag of Pretzels and a candy bar.
 

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Ah yes. Believe the word of a man who follows a false religion, who's great grandfather was considered the "Saint Paul" of Mormonism.

Totally nothing dodgy going on there.
Please enlighten me. Which is the “True” religion?

It’s amazing the rigid standards you have before you give people’s opinions any merit. Good for you. I’m glad Trump passes them all. Nothing “dodgy” going on with him.
 

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You're attacking the election and voters themselves. And with that this type of misinformation is actually the election fraud. If you attack an election and legal voters in an attempt to overturn the election through crony appointees and pressuring bureaucrats through threat of career what are you? Ironically these are the actions of historically communist states.
The election should be attacked. I'm not saying it would make a meaningful difference in this election, but we know there is voter fraud in every election. That should be addressed and fixed. This election is particularly suspect due to the number of mail in votes, and many states not setup to handle that kind of volume. This may have made it easier for a given voter to vote twice. Once mail in, once in person. We know dead people somehow vote in every election. Covid also made it more difficult to monitor the counting of votes due to social distancing.

I think Trump should concede, but I also think the election should be examined.
 

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The election should be attacked. I'm not saying it would make a meaningful difference in this election, but we know there is voter fraud in every election. That should be addressed and fixed. This election is particularly suspect due to the number of mail in votes, and many states not setup to handle that kind of volume. This may have made it easier for a given voter to vote twice. Once mail in, once in person. We know dead people somehow vote in every election. Covid also made it more difficult to monitor the counting of votes due to social distancing.

I think Trump should concede, but I also think the election should be examined.
We know there is fraud because the system catches it.
We know there are dead people voting because the system checks it.
We have used mail in voting since the civil war, mail in voting isn't the problem, Trump himself votes by mail.
There are systems in place for someone voting by mail and trying to vote in person.

 

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Election should be examined

The election should be attacked
Those are very different things.


but we know there is voter fraud in every election
There are existing systems.
I'm not going to bury into the details in a Lincoln Douglas debate here on where those systems could be more robust and we should continue to do that. We're on the same page in being against fraud.

We also know The in an entire audit and a hand count in Georgia the election was 99.9911% accurate on first pass and automatic recount rules at 0.5% or less already occurred due to knowing about these small variations. We know that these types of high percentages of accuracy are consistent with historical evaluations of the election from neutral and third parties. All of this is known. The amount of voting fraud is incredibly rare due to the distributed nature of the systems. Yes we are on the same page about making existing systems more robust and fighting vulnerabilities in closing them before they are exploited... that's a red herring in this conversation. Because that's not what Trump is advocating or doing.

None of this justifies the antidemocratic anti-American commie-acting actions currently occurring.
 

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Those are very different things.




There are existing systems.
I'm not going to bury into the details in a Lincoln Douglas debate here on where those systems could be more robust and we should continue to do that. We're on the same page in being against fraud.

We also know The in an entire audit and a hand count in Georgia the election was 99.9911% accurate on first pass and automatic recount rules at 0.5% or less already occurred due to knowing about these small variations. All of this is known. The amount of voting fraud is incredibly rare due to the distributed nature of the systems. Yes we are on the same page about making existing systems more robust and fighting vulnerabilities in closing them before they are exploited... that's a red herring in this conversation. Because that's not what Trump is advocating or doing.

None of this justifies the antidemocratic anti-American commie-acting actions currently occurring.
A recount is different than verifying the votes are valid. We won't fix issues unless we know for a fact they are issues and how they came to be.
 
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Those are very different things.




There are existing systems.
I'm not going to bury into the details in a Lincoln Douglas debate here on where those systems could be more robust and we should continue to do that. We're on the same page in being against fraud.

We also know The in an entire audit and a hand count in Georgia the election was 99.9911% accurate on first pass and automatic recount rules at 0.5% or less already occurred due to knowing about these small variations. We know that these types of high percentages of accuracy are consistent with historical evaluations of the election from neutral and third parties. All of this is known. The amount of voting fraud is incredibly rare due to the distributed nature of the systems. Yes we are on the same page about making existing systems more robust and fighting vulnerabilities in closing them before they are exploited... that's a red herring in this conversation. Because that's not what Trump is advocating or doing.

None of this justifies the antidemocratic anti-American commie-acting actions currently occurring.
Check ur PMs
 

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A recount is different than verifying the votes are valid. We won't fix issues unless we know for a fact they are issues and how they came to be.
Fine whatever.
Like I said I'm not digging into the details on legitimate discussions on starting processes to shore up the system.

Again this is all I red hearing. it has nothing to do with the propaganda of spreading false and misleading and factually proven misinformation in an attempt to change election results for self-gain.
 

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Now if I end up wrong ...or in the case very wrong and Biden takes office Im Shipping you a bag of Pretzels and a candy bar.
Since these are commie tactics by the outgoing President, I thought I would get to respond to you like a proper soviet country and take you out back?

I like chocolate the best
 

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All you’ve got to do to find out if I’m misleading you at all is to look at the lawsuits,” Giuliani said. “Look what’s alleged, look at the affidavits.


Ok what's happening in court:

At another point, when pressed, Giuliani admitted he wasn't alleging voter fraud -- but did still believe in the idea that fraud could exist.
"No, your honor, we are not" alleging fraud, Giuliani said, after Brann reminded him a newer version of the Trump campaign's lawsuit cut back those claims. It's a "fraudulent process," Giuliani continued
When Trump's lawyers took their complaint about election observers being denied sufficient access to watch the processing of ballots, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond appeared startled when the lawyers then acknowledged that the observers had, in fact, been permitted within 15 feet of the poll workers.


"I'm sorry, then what's your problem?" said Diamond.

Michigan
Costantino v. Detroit

Filed: Nov. 9

Claim: The plaintiffs were two poll challengers — representatives of the Republican Party allowed to monitor the vote counting — who alleged fraud and misconduct during the vote count last week at the TCF Center in Detroit. The lawsuit asked the court to block certification of the election results in Wayne County (which includes Detroit), where more than 867,000 people voted.

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The plaintiffs claimed that election workers were instructed “to not verify signatures on absentee ballots, to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.” They presented five affidavits from other poll challengers who said, among other things, that they saw election workers enter Jan. 1, 1900, as the birth date of many absentee voters. The plaintiffs offered no corroborating evidence for the affidavits. They also falsely stated that Republican poll challengers could not observe the count.

Context: The plaintiffs misunderstood the process for verifying and tabulating absentee votes, according to Chris Thomas, the state director of elections in Michigan for 36 years before his retirement in 2017, who submitted an affidavit for the defendants, the City of Detroit and the Detroit Election Commission. He explained that election workers entered Jan. 1, 1900, as a placeholder when the computer system required them to type in a birth date but they could not access that information in the voter file.

Mr. Thomas also said that ballots received on Nov. 3 were entered on Nov. 4 after election workers discovered that they had not previously been fully processed. Finally, he explained that Detroit allows 134 challengers each from the Republican and Democratic Parties, and once those limits were reached, access for a new challenger was allowed when someone left the hall.

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Status: On Friday, Chief Judge Timothy M. Kenny of Wayne County Circuit Court denied the petition from the pro-Trump side. “It would be an unprecedented exercise of judicial activism for this court to stop the certification process of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers,” Judge Kenny wrote. “Plaintiffs’ interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible.”

Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Benson

Filed: Nov. 11

Claim: This is a federal suit that repeats the pending state-court claims of fraud and misconduct in Costantino v. Detroit. The Trump campaign is similarly seeking to block Michigan’s certification of the vote.

The decision to file a second case suggests that the Trump campaign is “trying to try the same case in multiple courtrooms hoping that somebody will provide an endorsement of their baseless conspiracy theories,” said David Fink, an outside lawyer for the city of Detroit.

Context: The plaintiffs submitted more than 230 pages of affidavits from Republican poll challengers. But they described isolated grievances and perceived irregularities, not systemic fraud. “I felt intimidated by union people who were staring at me,” one poll challenger complained. Another said the loud volume of the P.A. system was distracting. A third said a Democratic poll worker told her to “go back to the suburbs, Karen.” A fourth found it suspicious that most of the few dozen ballots he saw counted that were cast by members of the military were votes for Mr. Biden.

Status: On Thursday, the Trump team dropped the suit.

Bally v. Whitmer

Filed: Nov. 11

Claim: Four voters sought to exclude all of the votes cast in three counties from Michigan’s total based on allegations of fraud and irregularities. Without corroboration, the plaintiffs said that officials counted the ballots of ineligible voters. The complaint also included unverified accounts of software glitches and dead people voting that circulated on Fox News and The Epoch Times.

Context: This is one of the four suits brought by Mr. Bopp, the conservative lawyer. The suits all claim that the unverified accounts of fraud amount to a violation of the plaintiffs’ right to equal protection, by “diluting” the power of their votes.

Status: On Monday, the suit was dropped.

Johnson v. Benson

Filed: Nov. 15

Claims: Two voters who were also poll challengers at the TCF Center made allegations about the counting process similar to the ones that Judge Kenny rejected in Costantino v. Detroit. They asked the court to block final certification of the county’s election results until an independent audit had been conducted or a special master appointed to investigate claims of fraud.

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Context: This suit repeated the dropped claim in Bally v. Whitmer of an equal protection violation based on the “dilution of the weight of Plaintiffs’ votes” because of the counting of absentee ballots.

Status: The plaintiffs dropped their suit on Wednesday, a few days after filing it.

Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Benson

Filed: Nov. 4

Claim: During the ballot counting in Michigan, the Trump campaign sued to stop it. In an affidavit, one poll watcher said another, whom she did not name, told her that she was told by still other poll workers to change the date on which a ballot was received.

Context: This was one of a number of cases the Trump campaign filed in key states to try to stop the counting as the results swung in favor of Mr. Biden.

Status: At a hearing, Judge Cynthia Stephens of the Michigan Court of Claims characterized the affidavit as, “‘I heard someone else say something,’” and said, “Tell me how that is not hearsay. Come on now!” Judge Stephens dismissed the suit on Nov. 5. The Trump campaign’s appeal of her ruling was denied because it lacked the required attachments.

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Stoddard, et.al. v City Election Commission of the City of Detroit

Filed: Nov. 4

Claim: A Republican poll challenger and the Election Integrity Fund, a nonprofit organization, sued to stop election workers in Detroit from hand duplicating ballots that could not be read by a machine. The suit also sought to delay certification of the results.

Context: This was an early effort to suggest that mail-in ballots were being handled to benefit Mr. Biden.

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Status: Judge Kenny dismissed the suit on Nov. 6. “Plaintiffs fail to identify the occurrence and scope of any alleged violation,” he wrote.


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Ballot counting last week in Philadelphia. Mr. Trump and his allies have lost several cases in Pennsylvania.
Ballot counting last week in Philadelphia. Mr. Trump and his allies have lost several cases in Pennsylvania.Credit...Ruth Fremson/The New York Times
Pennsylvania
In re: Canvass of Absentee and Mail-In Ballots of Nov. 3, 2020, General Election

Filed: Nov. 10

Claim: On behalf of a voter, the Trump campaign appealed the decision by the Philadelphia County Board of Elections to count five categories of mail-in ballots. Pennsylvania law provides that voters must sign and “fill out” an outer envelope (as well as include an inner security envelope when they return their ballots). This suit challenges a total of 8,349 ballots with outer envelopes that were signed but lacked other information, like the date or the voter’s printed name or street address.

Context: The number of ballots challenged in this suit for minor errors would not be enough to change the election result.

Status: On Friday, Judge James Crumlish of the Court of Common Pleas denied all of the challenges to all five categories of ballots.

Pirkle v. Wolf

Filed: Nov. 10

Claim: Four voters sought to block all votes from Philadelphia, Montgomery, Delaware and Allegheny Counties from being included in the state total, claiming that the state violated the right to equal protection by allowing differing absentee balloting practices among counties.

Before the election, Pennsylvania’s secretary of state, Kathy Boockvar, advised county election officials that “curing” absentee ballots (the term for fixing mistakes like a missing signature) was permitted but not required. As a result, local practices differed to a degree. This suit claims that it was unconstitutional to allow some but not all Philadelphia voters to cure their ballots. The suit also cites Delaware County for allegedly giving in-person ballots to voters who were recorded as having received mail-in ballots without requiring them to sign the registration book at the polls. In Allegheny County, according to the suit, voters were required to vote provisionally when records showed they had requested an absentee ballot but not cast it.

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Context: The election system in the United States is highly decentralized and gives considerable authority to state and county officials over how to run elections. As a result, it is common for states to allow some variation in local election practices and to allow voters to cast provisional ballots in a variety of circumstances.

Status: On Thursday night, the law firm representing the Trump campaign, Porter Wright, asked to withdraw. . On Monday, the case was dropped, along with the other three brought by Mr. Bopp.

Donald J. Trump for President v. Boockvar

Filed: Nov. 9

Claim: The Trump campaign is seeking to block the certification of the Pennsylvania election, alleging fraud in mail-in balloting, insufficient access for poll observers and varying procedures for curing ballots among different counties.

The plaintiffs said “Democratic heavy” counties allowed voters to cure their absentee ballots while “Republican heavy” counties did not. They also said ballots were processed in Allegheny County and Philadelphia while poll observers were too far away to see what was happening.

Context: On Election Day, Republican lawyers acknowledged in court that the party’s observers were present at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in Philadelphia when votes were being counted. “I’m sorry, then what’s your problem?” Judge Paul S. Diamond of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania asked. He granted a modest accommodation, ordering the city election commission to allow poll observers to move closer to the counting.

Status: Judge Brann scheduled oral argument for Nov. 17.

Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Bucks County Board of Elections

Filed: Nov. 9

Claim: The Trump campaign and others appealed the decision of the Bucks County Board of Elections to count 2,175 ballots that lacked the voter’s printed name or street address, or the date of signing. The suit also challenged the inclusion of 76 ballots that arrived in unsealed inner envelopes or with markings on them.

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Context: Like a number of other suits, this one involves a relatively small number of votes that would not change the outcome.

Status: Judge Robert O. Baldi of the Court of Common Pleas scheduled a hearing for Nov. 17.

Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Montgomery County Board of Elections

Filed: Nov. 5

Claim: The Trump campaign and others sued the Montgomery County Board of Elections for notifying voters before Election Day to allow them to fill in missing information on ballot envelopes.

Context: About 600 ballots are at issue. At a hearing, Judge Richard P. Haaz of the Court of Common Pleas asked if the suit included any accusations of fraud. When pressed, the lawyer for the plaintiffs said no.

Status: On Friday, Judge Haaz denied the petition to disqualify the ballots. “Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting instructions provided by election officials which are consistent with the Election Code,” he wrote.

Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. et al v. Boockvar et al

Filed: Nov. 4

Claim: The Trump campaign and others challenged guidance that Ms. Boockvar provided to counties before the election, allowing them to tell absentee voters they had until Nov. 12 to provide missing proof of identification.

Context: Pennsylvania law normally sets a deadline for six days after the election, Nov. 9 this year, for providing missing voter ID. Ms. Boockvar, the secretary of state, extended the deadline to Nov. 12 in light of a decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to allow absentee ballots to be counted if they were received by Nov. 6. The extension Ms. Boockvar allowed applied to only a small number of ballots with missing ID that arrived after Nov. 3.

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Status: On Nov. 12, Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt of the Commonwealth Court ordered this narrow category of ballots to be excluded from the state count. None of these ballots had yet been included. This is the Trump campaign’s only win so far in postelection litigation.

Republican Party of Pennsylvania v. Boockvar

Filed: Nov. 6

Claim: The Pennsylvania Republican Party asked the Supreme Court to block the counting of ballots received between the end of Election Day and Nov. 6.

Context: In September, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that ballots could be counted if they were postmarked by Nov. 3 and received by Nov. 6. Republicans then asked the U.S. Supreme Court to block the Pennsylvania court’s ruling. In October, in a 4-to-4 split, the justices let the state court ruling stand. Pennsylvania’s attorney general, however, ordered the late-arriving ballots segregated from the rest of the count.

On Nov. 6, Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. also ordered the late-arriving ballots segregated. In the end, there were fewer than 10,000 such votes. They have not been included in the reported state total. By themselves, those ballots would not affect the outcome in Pennsylvania.

Status: On Friday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit ruled that the plaintiffs did not have standing to stop the counting of the late-arriving ballots. The Supreme Court has yet to say whether it will hear the Republicans’ appeal.


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Arizona
Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Hobbs

Filed: Nov. 9

Claims: The Trump campaign claimed that some ballots in Maricopa County were filled out with Sharpie pens. A handful of voters and a poll observer said they saw bleeding ink on these ballots, causing an “overvote” on the other side, and that poll workers were instructed to press a green button on the scanner to accept the votes despite the error. The suit seeks to prevent the supposed “overvotes” from being included in the tally until they are reviewed.

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Context: The suit involves only 191 votes for president. At a hearing on Thursday, when one witness was asked if she had a basis to believe her vote was not counted, she answered, “Uh, I’m not sure.”

Status: On Friday, the Trump campaign dropped the suit.

Nevada
Stokke v. Cegavske

Filed: Nov. 5

Claims: Two voters, a poll observer and elected officials, backed by the Trump campaign, claimed there were problems with an automated signature verification machine in Clark County. One of them, Jill Stokke, said at a Trump campaign news conference, “I went to vote and was told I already voted.”

Context: The Clark County registrar of voters, Joe Gloria, investigated Ms. Stokke’s complaint and said that the signature on her absentee ballot appeared to match the one in the voter file, but gave her the option of challenging that vote and casting a provisional ballot. Ms. Stokke refused.

Status: Judge Andrew Gordon of the United States District Court for the District of Nevada denied the plaintiff’s request on Nov. 6 for lack of evidence.

Law v. Whitmer

Filed: Nov. 17

Claims: Without evidence, several voters, on behalf of the Trump campaign, alleged improprieties and fraud in the election system of Clark County (which includes Las Vegas). The plaintiffs objected to the use of a sorting and scanning machine used for signature verification. The machine rejected signatures at a rate of about 1 percent, which is typical for mail-in ballots, but the plaintiffs said that “far more” votes should have been thrown out, enough to shift victory from Mr. Biden to Mr. Trump, and asked the court to either declare Mr. Trump the winner or annul Nevada’s certification of the election.

Context: The suit’s generalized objection to the administration of the election was the kind of claim that usually must be raised before an election takes place, so that voters won’t be disenfranchised. The allegations about signature verification are also similar to those that Judge Gordon rejected in Stokke v. Cegavske.

Status: Pending.

Georgia
Brooks v. Mahoney

Filed: Nov. 11

Claim: Four Republican voters sued over the process of absentee vote counting in several Georgia counties, seeking to exclude all of the votes cast in them from the state total.

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The plaintiffs cited isolated instances of fraud. One voter, for example, said his absentee ballot was recorded even though he voted in person. The plaintiffs also claimed that several counties appeared to have more registered voters than their interpretation of census data would suggest was plausible. They cited a study that estimated from past survey data, but without proof, that thousands of noncitizens voted for Mr. Biden.

Context: Georgia is in the middle of a recount.

Status: The suit is pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Georgia, Savannah Division.

In re: enforcement of election laws

Filed: Nov. 4

Claim: The Trump campaign sued to prevent ballots from being counted if they were received after 7 p.m. on Election Day.

Context: This was one of the flurry of cases around the country seeking to limit the counting of mail-in ballots.

Status: Judge James F. Bass of the Superior Court of Chatham County dismissed the case on Nov. 5 for lack of evidence. On Monday, the case was dropped, along with the other three brought by Mr. Bopp.


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Wisconsin
Langenhorst v. Pecore

Filed: Nov. 12

Claim: Four voters sought to exclude all of the votes cast in three counties from Wisconsin’s total based on differences in absentee voting rules among the counties. The suit objected to Milwaukee, Dane and Menominee Counties allowing voters who say they are “indefinitely confined” by age, illness or disability to cast ballots without proving photographic identification. The complaint also cited a handful of voters (identified by only their initials) who said they received absentee ballots without requesting them, and three absentee ballots allegedly completed after they were mailed to deceased people.

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Context: This suit makes the same kinds of equal-protection claims as the ones in Brooks v. Mahoney, Bally v. Whitmer, and Pirkle v. Wolf. All were filed by the conservative lawyer James Bopp.

Status: On Monday, the case was dropped, along with the other three brought by Mr. Bopp.
 

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All you’ve got to do to find out if I’m misleading you at all is to look at the lawsuits,” Giuliani said. “Look what’s alleged, look at the affidavits.


Ok what's happening in court:
Its fucking disgusting
 

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Fine whatever.
Like I said I'm not digging into the details on legitimate discussions on starting processes to shore up the system.

Again this is all I red hearing. it has nothing to do with the propaganda of spreading false and misleading and factually proven misinformation in an attempt to change election results for self-gain.
Subject surf but wasnt this the ENTIRE MO of the democratic party for the entirety of Trumps administration? Russian collusion, impeachment, Kavanaugh, “he called dead vets losers”...
My guess is that he is doing this as a GIANT fuck you to them. They attacked him from day 1 (actually even before he took office). Dont want shit? Dont start shit. If someone attacked me for years for everything I would never let up. I treat conflict like gatorade/coffee/alcohol; it fuels me. I also laughed when obama said recently that Bush made his transition incredibly easy. He must have forgot in 2016...
 

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Subject surf but wasnt this the ENTIRE MO of the democratic party for the entirety of Trumps administration? Russian collusion, impeachment, Kavanaugh, “he called dead vets losers”...
My guess is that he is doing this as a GIANT fuck you to them. They attacked him from day 1 (actually even before he took office). Dont want shit? Dont start shit. If someone attacked me for years for everything I would never let up. I treat conflict like gatorade/coffee/alcohol; it fuels me. I also laughed when obama said recently that Bush made his transition incredibly easy. He must have forgot in 2016...
He's acting like someone who never learned to lose, which is amazing because he has lost plenty.
 

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Subject surf but wasnt this the ENTIRE MO of the democratic party for the entirety of Trumps administration? Russian collusion, impeachment, Kavanaugh, “he called dead vets losers”...
My guess is that he is doing this as a GIANT fuck you to them. They attacked him from day 1 (actually even before he took office). Dont want shit? Dont start shit. If someone attacked me for years for everything I would never let up. I treat conflict like gatorade/coffee/alcohol; it fuels me. I also laughed when obama said recently that Bush made his transition incredibly easy. He must have forgot in 2016...

Like Obama did?
 

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He's acting like someone who never learned to lose, which is amazing because he has lost plenty.
I think he knows he lost but hes making them pay for their bullshit for the last four years Biden will still be sworn in in January.
 

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I think he knows he lost but hes making them pay for their bullshit for the last four years Biden will still be sworn in in January.
What he's doing is extremely unAmerican and is fucking up future elections. It's a direct attack on our democracy, all because he is a big baby.