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Uh, you don’t “rank” Jews based on wether they have Cohen or Levi blood. You just make them do the religious stuff.
You can also make the argument that because they have no maternal Jewish ancestry at all they wouldn’t be accepted as “true Jews” since that is how “Jewishness” is traditionally inherited so they would not “outrank” the other Jews. If you’re into creating an “inherently jewish” power/ranking structure. But now you’re into semantic arguments about if a convert can be a “real Jew.”

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1. Sephardim
2. Mizrahim
3. Ashkenazim

Deal. With. It.
 
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Uh, you don’t “rank” Jews based on wether they have Cohen or Levi blood. You just make them do the religious stuff.
You can also make the argument that because they have no maternal Jewish ancestry at all they wouldn’t be accepted as “true Jews” since that is how “Jewishness” is traditionally inherited so they would not “outrank” the other Jews. If you’re into creating an “inherently jewish” power/ranking structure. But now you’re into semantic arguments about if a convert can be a “real Jew.”

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Also Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ the Lemba are not widely accepted as Halakhic for the very reasons I’ve stated

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In conclusion, while the observed distribution of sub-clades of haplotypes at mitochondrial and Y chromosome non-recombinant genomes might be compatible with founder events in recent times at the origin of Jewish groups as Cohenite, Levite, Ashkenazite, the overall substantial polyphyletism as well as their systematic occurrence in non-Jewish groups highlights the lack of support for using them either as markers of Jewish ancestry or Biblical tales.[11]

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When blood groups and serum protein markers were used, the Lemba were indistinguishable from the neighbors among whom they lived; the same was true for mitochondrial DNA which represented the input of females in their gene pool. However, the Y chromosomes, which represented their history through male contributions, showed the link to non-African ancestors. When trying to elucidate the most likely geographic region of origin of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba, the best that could be done was to narrow it to the Middle Eastern region. While no evidence of the extended CMH 11 was found in the higher resolution study, CMH however, was present at a rate of 8.8% being one mutational step away from the extended form.[53]
 
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In conclusion, while the observed distribution of sub-clades of haplotypes at mitochondrial and Y chromosome non-recombinant genomes might be compatible with founder events in recent times at the origin of Jewish groups as Cohenite, Levite, Ashkenazite, the overall substantial polyphyletism as well as their systematic occurrence in non-Jewish groups highlights the lack of support for using them either as markers of Jewish ancestry or Biblical tales.[11]

and

When blood groups and serum protein markers were used, the Lemba were indistinguishable from the neighbors among whom they lived; the same was true for mitochondrial DNA which represented the input of females in their gene pool. However, the Y chromosomes, which represented their history through male contributions, showed the link to non-African ancestors. When trying to elucidate the most likely geographic region of origin of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba, the best that could be done was to narrow it to the Middle Eastern region. While no evidence of the extended CMH 11 was found in the higher resolution study, CMH however, was present at a rate of 8.8% being one mutational step away from the extended form.[53]
Oh Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ you dun goofed
 
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Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

In conclusion, while the observed distribution of sub-clades of haplotypes at mitochondrial and Y chromosome non-recombinant genomes might be compatible with founder events in recent times at the origin of Jewish groups as Cohenite, Levite, Ashkenazite, the overall substantial polyphyletism as well as their systematic occurrence in non-Jewish groups highlights the lack of support for using them either as markers of Jewish ancestry or Biblical tales.[11]

and

When blood groups and serum protein markers were used, the Lemba were indistinguishable from the neighbors among whom they lived; the same was true for mitochondrial DNA which represented the input of females in their gene pool. However, the Y chromosomes, which represented their history through male contributions, showed the link to non-African ancestors. When trying to elucidate the most likely geographic region of origin of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba, the best that could be done was to narrow it to the Middle Eastern region. While no evidence of the extended CMH 11 was found in the higher resolution study, CMH however, was present at a rate of 8.8% being one mutational step away from the extended form.[53]
These are the two most recent studies I could find. The one you cited is from 1999, these are both after 2013 genetic science has evolved a lot.

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In conclusion, while the observed distribution of sub-clades of haplotypes at mitochondrial and Y chromosome non-recombinant genomes might be compatible with founder events in recent times at the origin of Jewish groups as Cohenite, Levite, Ashkenazite, the overall substantial polyphyletism as well as their systematic occurrence in non-Jewish groups highlights the lack of support for using them either as markers of Jewish ancestry or Biblical tales.[11]

and

When blood groups and serum protein markers were used, the Lemba were indistinguishable from the neighbors among whom they lived; the same was true for mitochondrial DNA which represented the input of females in their gene pool. However, the Y chromosomes, which represented their history through male contributions, showed the link to non-African ancestors. When trying to elucidate the most likely geographic region of origin of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba, the best that could be done was to narrow it to the Middle Eastern region. While no evidence of the extended CMH 11 was found in the higher resolution study, CMH however, was present at a rate of 8.8% being one mutational step away from the extended form.[53]
My great grandparents were heads of a clan in the Scottish highlands.

We literally wuz kangz.
 
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“Ben-Jochannan was the author of 49 books, primarily on ancient Nile Valley civilizations and their influence on Western cultures.[4] In his writings, he asserts that the original Jews were from Ethiopia and were Africans. He says that the Semitic (Middle Eastern) Jews later adopted the Jewish faith and its customs.[9]

ohhhh Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ youre quoting a charlatan who spreads nonsense

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“Ben-Jochannan was the author of 49 books, primarily on ancient Nile Valley civilizations and their influence on Western cultures.[4] In his writings, he asserts that the original Jews were from Ethiopia and were Africans. He says that the Semitic (Middle Eastern) Jews later adopted the Jewish faith and its customs.[9]

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Ben-Jochannan has been criticized for allegedly distorting history and promoting Black supremacy. In February 1993, Wellesley College European classics professor Mary Lefkowitz publicly confronted Ben-Jochannan about his teachings. Ben-Jochannan taught that Aristotle visited the Library of Alexandria. During the question and answer session following the lecture, Lefkowitz asked ben-Jochannan, "How would that have been possible, when the library was not built until after his death?" Ben-Jochannan replied that the dates were uncertain.[13] Lefkowitz writes that ben-Jochannan proceeded to tell those present that "they could and should believe what only Black instructors told them" and "that although they might think that Jews were all 'hook-nosed and sallow faced,' there were other Jews who looked Black like himself."[14]

African-American professor Clarence E. Walkerwrote that Ben-Jochannan not only confused Cleopatra VII with her daughter Cleopatra VIIIand stated she was black, but also wrote that "Cleopatra VIII committed suicide after being discovered in a plot with Marc Antonio [Mark Anthony] to murder Julius Caesar." This would be highly problematic considering Julius Caesar was assassinated 14 years before Cleopatra VII's suicide.[15]

This is who you tout as a scholar of history Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ ?

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Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ are you a black supremacist? The more I look into your favourite “scholars” the more I question… this is some Nation of Islam style stuff
 
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