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John Lee Pettimore

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It's behind an insta-paywall sorry.

That's good if there's anything to it, but (at this point at least) I don't believe it to be anything other than a few empty words. It doesn't fit with their mentality or philosophy. AOC sounds credible when she rails against it - it fits in with her mentality and with her brand. McCarthy giving lip service to maybe thinking about talking about it in a couple of years, IF he gets in? (which he will). Eh, that's better than flat out rejecting the idea or blanking it completely, but I just can't see that being any kind of a real thing in today's GOP.

A little soundbite about "yeah that sounds like something I might look at looking at, sometime down the line maybe" is nice, let's see some legislation being drafted before we start giving credit eh?

The old guard of geriatric insider cronies that has a death grip on the levers of power in the Dems doesn't want a bar of this, and the GOP? Who on their side is going to crusade for this?

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Hauler

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It's behind an insta-paywall sorry.

That's good if there's anything to it, but (at this point at least) I don't believe it to be anything other than a few empty words. It doesn't fit with their mentality or philosophy. AOC sounds credible when she rails against it - it fits in with her mentality and with her brand. McCarthy giving lip service to maybe thinking about talking about it in a couple of years, IF he gets in? (which he will). Eh, that's better than flat out rejecting the idea or blanking it completely, but I just can't see that being any kind of a real thing in today's GOP.

A little soundbite about "yeah that sounds like something I might look at looking at, sometime down the line maybe" is nice, let's see some legislation being drafted before we start giving credit eh?

The old guard of geriatric insider cronies that has a death grip on the levers of power in the Dems doesn't want a bar of this, and the GOP? Who on their side is going to crusade for this?

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You asked me to post 1 example.
I give you one.
Then you tell me what you feel he truly meant.

Cool story bro. Come back when you want to dispute FACTS. Not what you FEEL.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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You asked me to post 1 example.
I give you one.
Then you tell me what you feel he truly meant.

Cool story bro. Come back when you want to dispute FACTS. Not what you FEEL.
That's fine. You came up with more than I expected or have heard any prominent Republican say on the subject before, I have no problem conceding that.

I don't think that McCarthy will ever move to do anything to address the issue and that words about what you might look at doing once you're in power a couple of years from now are pretty cheap, but okay. Fair enough, he did reference it and he did say that it shouldn't be a thing and the rules should be changed. You got me, I guess? Happy for you. ?

You did address what I specifically said and backed your stance with actual evidence, and because of that, now I have to shift my position slightly to reflect that. So, I will. ✌

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NotBanjaxo

Formerly someone other than Banjaxo
Nov 16, 2019
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It's behind an insta-paywall sorry.

That's good if there's anything to it, but (at this point at least) I don't believe it to be anything other than a few empty words. It doesn't fit with their mentality or philosophy. AOC sounds credible when she rails against it - it fits in with her mentality and with her brand. McCarthy giving lip service to maybe thinking about talking about it in a couple of years, IF he gets in? (which he will). Eh, that's better than flat out rejecting the idea or blanking it completely, but I just can't see that being any kind of a real thing in today's GOP.

A little soundbite about "yeah that sounds like something I might look at looking at, sometime down the line maybe" is nice, let's see some legislation being drafted before we start giving credit eh?

The old guard of geriatric insider cronies that has a death grip on the levers of power in the Dems doesn't want a bar of this, and the GOP? Who on their side is going to crusade for this?

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I know you didn't ask for the opinion of some dumb pleb like myself, but I'm going to vomit it in your direction anyway :)

Your attitude of "Left win good, right wing bad" is one of the reasons you don't get taken too seriously on here.

That is particularly true of US politics, where it seems that there are very few actual left wing politicians compared to other first world countries. It's more like the right vs the slightly further right.
 

SongExotic2

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I say we hang the fat cunt and get farage in there
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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I know you didn't ask for the opinion of some dumb pleb like myself, but I'm going to vomit it in your direction anyway :)

Your attitude of "Left win good, right wing bad" is one of the reasons you don't get taken too seriously on here.

That is particularly true of US politics, where it seems that there are very few actual left wing politicians compared to other first world countries. It's more like the right vs the slightly further right.
Yep, it is.

I can't stand Pelosi, I don't really have a single positive thing to say about her.

I have stated dozens of times that I do not think that Biden is fit for office, and that I do not think that he should have even declared in 2019 on account of her age.

Kamala is terrible as well.

As for "left side good, right side bad", I started that "Insane Woke Twitter Bullshit" thread. I have no patience for the type of asshole who wants to cancel JK Rowling.

Not really a blind leftist, eh? There's not any Democrat I'm unwilling to give specific criticism of.

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NotBanjaxo

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As for "left side good, right side bad", I started that "Insane Woke Twitter Bullshit" thread. I have no patience for the type of asshole who wants to cancel JK Rowling.

Not really a blind leftist, eh? There's not any Democrat I'm unwilling to give specific criticism of.
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I seem to remember a thread a while back where you explicitly stated that opinion, that Republicans were objectively worse people than Democrats.

I can't remember which thread, and I'm too lazy to search for it, was that someone else?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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No one wants the job atm.

The Conservatives have fucked the country for the foreseeable.

Its a poisoned chalice so unless Greys inquiry finds him guilty of breaking the law he ain't resigning.

That shit eating grin will be around for a while yet I'd say.
You should see what the Liberals are doing to Canada. JT has been found guilty of breaking laws and just keeps ok trucking. I'm not even mad, it's amazing.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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I seem to remember a thread a while back where you explicitly stated that opinion, that Republicans were objectively worse people than Democrats.

I can't remember which thread, and I'm too lazy to search for it, was that someone else?
Republican policies are objectively more about selfish individualism, that is pretty much indisputably true.

Worse or better people? That's pretty subjective, and the groups are far too large and far too ill-defined for that to be presented as a serious statement.

Republicans at this point in time are objectively worse for democracy, though. That can't really be seriously argued against. There are a lot of elements of the modern left that are worryingly anti free speech, but the damage the American right is doing to their democracy is the most worrying aspect by far in American politics right now. Other Western nations, the Overton window is nowhere near as far to the right as it is there.

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NotBanjaxo

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Republican policies are objectively more about selfish individualism, that is pretty much indisputably true.

Worse or better people? That's pretty subjective, and the groups are far too large and far too ill-defined for that to be presented as a serious statement.

Republicans at this point in time are objectively worse for democracy, though. That can't really be seriously argued against.

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It could be argued that the Democrat's support for the rioters during the election campaign wasn't exactly great for the USA. Outside of the minority of extremists, I don't think that Republicans are anti democracy though. That's from my admittedly limited knowledge of US politics.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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It could be argued that the Democrat's support for the rioters during the election campaign wasn't exactly great for the USA. Outside of the minority of extremists, I don't think that Republicans are anti democracy though. That's from my admittedly limited knowledge of US politics.
Yeah the Dems were atrocious cowards during that whole fiasco. Pandering to woke Twitter wankers who are never gonna win them national office, and making excuses for criminal opportunists. Disgraceful. They are a rotten mess of a party.

But the reality is, they aren't the ones actively trying to kill off American democracy itself right now. And the Republicans are. By default, that makes the Dems the only acceptable option.

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John Lee Pettimore

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Outside of the minority of extremists, I don't think that Republicans are anti democracy though. That's from my admittedly limited knowledge of US politics.
They really, honestly are though. And it's not a minority position in the party to support any efforts to prevent any sort of fair contest, or accept any unfavourable outcome. There is no such thing as conceding a close Presidential election any more. That "Stop the Steal" bullshit? That's their default position going forward. And it's bad, bad news for American democracy in the next decade or two.

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FINGERS

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Republican policies are objectively more about selfish individualism, that is pretty much indisputably true.

Worse or better people? That's pretty subjective, and the groups are far too large and far too ill-defined for that to be presented as a serious statement.

Republicans at this point in time are objectively worse for democracy, though. That can't really be seriously argued against. There are a lot of elements of the modern left that are worryingly anti free speech, but the damage the American right is doing to their democracy is the most worrying aspect by far in American politics right now. Other Western nations, the Overton window is nowhere near as far to the right as it is there.

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I genuinely Iove you.
 

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Come on down to Nigel's Britain!

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Where we chop the competition in half
 

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