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BeardOfKnowledge

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I don't know what to tell you, she went to the doctor with concerns about a variety of things (I don't know the exact details, but I can only presume that those were among them), and was told she was pregnant.
Although unlikely it certainly isn't impossible, granted babies have also been born, and survived, at 4 months. Again unlikely. That being said, this case being brought up isn't a case of a woman not knowing. It's a case of a woman knowing she's pregnant and not caring.
 

Splinty

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A lot of women have irregular periods so it's definitely possible, even if it is rare.
It's not rare. Women see me after that date for their first pregnancy test positive all the time. History of irregular periods is the primary reason for their lack of suspicion which is increasingly common in tandem with obesity increases.
 

Filthy

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TheY jsuT waNt to LEt tHe StATeS DecIDE


This makes a Republican Leak seem plausible.

"Give us the seats and we'll make Biden veto. Then we'll make presidential election a referendum on abortion."
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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This makes a Republican Leak seem plausible.

"Give us the seats and we'll make Biden veto. Then we'll make presidential election a referendum on abortion."
I'm curious to see how this impacts the primaries. Clearly it's taken all the air out the the room and riled up the DNC base. If the GOP crushes in the primaries will people go "I guess democracy has spoken." or will this continue to be fought tooth and nail?
 

John Lee Pettimore

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I'm curious to see how this impacts the primaries. Clearly it's taken all the air out the the room and riled up the DNC base. If the GOP crushes in the primaries will people go "I guess democracy has spoken." or will this continue to be fought tooth and nail?
I guess we'll just have to wait for things to pan out.

Looking forward to you spending the entire campaign relentlessly shilling for anti-democracy backwards cunts who are trying to establish a repressive theocracy that you would never choose to live under, though.

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kaladin stormblessed

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I guess we'll just have to wait for things to pan out.

Looking forward to you spending the entire campaign relentlessly shilling for anti-democracy backwards cunts who are trying to establish a repressive theocracy that you would never choose to live under, though.

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sadly, the Speaker of the House is continuing to endorse Henry Cuellar (a pro-life, corporate democrat) over Jessica Cisneros (a justice democrat) in a Texas election going on right now

Why? ... because Henry Cuellar takes corporate PAC money just like Nancy Pelosi. They are both aligned more closely with the corrupt Republican party than they are to progressives
 

John Lee Pettimore

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sadly, the Speaker of the House is continuing to endorse Henry Cuellar (a pro-life, corporate democrat) over Jessica Cisneros (a justice democrat) in a Texas election going on right now

Why? ... because Henry Cuellar takes corporate PAC money just like Nancy Pelosi. They are both aligned more closely with the corrupt Republican party than they are to progressives
I don't know why you keep expecting the Dems to act like a progressive political party. They aren't, and haven't been in our lifetimes. They are centrist at best, more likely centre right. They have a progressive wing in the party, but they are sidelined and hold no power whatsoever in the Dem establishment.

They've had one legitimate progressive make an impact since I can remember, and that only happened because the party elite cleared the entire field for the most hated corporatist Dem insider of the last 50 years to run unopposed. Which the entire party went along with), except for one guy who went rogue and who has never really been one of them to start with.

Even so, they aren't actively trying to destroy American democracy the way the GOP is openly doing.

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kaladin stormblessed

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I don't know why you keep expecting the Dems to act like a progressive political party. They aren't, and haven't been in our lifetimes. They are centrist at best, more likely centre right. They have a progressive wing in the party, but they are sidelined and hold no power whatsoever in the Dem establishment.

They've had one legitimate progressive make an impact since I can remember, and that only happened because the party elite cleared the entire field for the most hated corporatist Dem insider of the last 50 years to run unopposed. Which the entire party went along with), except for one guy who went rogue and who has never really been one of them to start with.

Even so, they aren't actively trying to destroy American democracy the way the GOP is openly doing.

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no, i agree. the problem is that MSM is bought-out by the same corporations through advertisers

so right now, its a struggle to explain to people like my mom that Biden and corporate democrats are actually republicans

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i disagree about the destroying america part. im with ya in that the Republicans no longer care about democracy. but the right wing "moderate" dems are destroying America in their own way
 

John Lee Pettimore

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no, i agree. the problem is that MSM is bought-out by the same corporations through advertisers

so right now, its a struggle to explain to people like my mom that Biden is not a good guy. Pelosi is not a good girl. they are corrupt

because most of what Biden and corporate democrats believe in does not actually align with the preferences of their voters. but the voters dont realize that Biden, Pelosi, etc are actually republicans
They are not progressives.

"Republicans" means something veeeery different now from what it used to even in the Bush/McCain/Romney era.

Remember that town hall where that woman told McCain that she was afraid of Barack Obama because he's a Muslim? And McCain defended him and called him a good guy and a good father who loves America, and told her not to fall for stupid hate-mongering lies? That's not going to happen any more. Now, the Republican candidate will amplify those lies and drive that narrative himself. That's a crucial difference that supercedes anything else.

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no, i agree. the problem is that MSM is bought-out by the same corporations through advertisers

so right now, its a struggle to explain to people like my mom that Biden and corporate democrats are actually republicans

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i disagree about the destroying america part. im with ya in that the Republicans no longer care about democracy. but the right wing "moderate" dems are destroying America in their own way
Biden and others are centrist Democrats. They're definitely not Republicans. Labeling them as such is almost as inaccurate as GOP fuckboys calling them "liberals."
 

kaladin stormblessed

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They are not progressives.

"Republicans" means something veeeery different now from what it used to even in the Bush/McCain/Romney era.

Remember that town hall where that woman told McCain that she was afraid of Barack Obama because he's a Muslim? And McCain defended him and called him a good guy and a good father who loves America, and told her not to fall for stupid hate-mongering lies? That's not going to happen any more. Now, the Republican candidate will amplify those lies and drive that narrative himself.

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im with you in that most right wing politicians and their voters have losts their minds

what im saying is that Biden is actually a Republican, like a Bush or McCain republican

there's a reason why his agenda was split into two. the bill with corporate handouts (and some good stuff), got bi-partisan support

and the bill with the progressive stuff that won Biden the election got rejected
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Biden and others are centrist Democrats. They're definitely not Republicans. Labeling them as such is almost as inaccurate as GOP fuckboys calling them "liberals."
"centrist" and "moderate" democrats suggests that their views are more popular within the democrat party. thats not true

call them what they are. "corporate democrats," "corrupt democrats," or republicans
 

John Lee Pettimore

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im with you in that most right wing politicians and their voters have losts their minds

what im saying is that Biden is actually a Republican, like a Bush or McCain republican

there's a reason why his agenda was split into two. the bill with corporate handouts (and some good stuff), got bi-partisan support
Yes.

That is business as usual for the Dems since Clinton's successful triangulation strategy. Corporatist business as usual sucks, but when it's the only option next to these anti-democracy, anti-reality insane asshole religious extremists who are screaming for a violent authoritarian leader........ then yeah, it sucks, but centre-right corporatist business as usual is the only option.

and the bill with the progressive stuff that won Biden the election got rejected
You mean the progressive stuff that lost Sanders two elections?

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John Lee Pettimore

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"centrist" and "moderate" democrats suggests that their views are more popular within the democrat party. thats not true

call them what they are. "corporate democrats," "corrupt democrats," or republicans
Progressive Dems have taken a bunch of high-profile Ls to corporate Democrats in the last few years.

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Hauler

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Looking forward to you spending the entire campaign relentlessly shilling for anti-democracy backwards cunts who are trying to establish a repressive theocracy that you would never choose to live under, though.
Backwards cunts? Like the ones harrassing Supreme Court Justices at their homes? Talk about zero respect for democracy. They need to accept things for what they are.
 
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kaladin stormblessed

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Progressive Dems have taken a bunch of high-profile Ls to corporate Democrats in the last few years.

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you're missing my point. as i keep saying, people like my mother are lied to by the MSM. so they unknowingly vote for the corrupt, corporate dems since CNN covers for them and lies about them

in the mid-terms ... lets see how many incumbent progressives lose seats versus how many corporate democrats lose seats