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Rambo John J

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Shooting guns are planes is a dumb idea regardless if it's a Marshall or a pilot who has run in the back to act out his best Steven Segal lol
It is not ideal.

Yet, If you believe the "official narrative" of 9-11 a few well placed shots could have saved thousands of lyfes and 4 buildings from controlled demos and the pentagon from a missile.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Shooting guns are planes is a dumb idea regardless if it's a Marshall or a pilot who has run in the back to act out his best Steven Segal lol

Guns are not the answer. Tasers make more sense
Tasers work substantially less well on drunks or drug users. Seeing as that's going to be making up the majority of your incidents, I'm going to say that's not the best idea. They also have a higher death rates than you'd expect. Turns out there's a reason they refer to them as "Less lethal" instead of "non-lethal". Realistically tasers should be banned, but they have a really, really good marketing department.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Did a quick search. Marshall's might have slow bullets (weaker explosive?) And ceramic bullets. Shit like that

I'm still just anti-guns on planes tho. I know alot of you love guns, but I don't like being near them

If shit pops off on a plane, I'm going to throw down. But I hate the idea of stray bullets

Not gonna lie, I've gone to like 5 movies in the last 15 years since im scared of movie theater shootings (despite the low odds)

I just fucken hate guns

Ps. Worlds full of pussies
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Did a quick search. Marshall's might have slow bullets (weaker explosive?) And ceramic bullets.
Someone's taking you on a snipe hunt, sir.

I'm still just anti-guns on planes tho. I know alot of you love guns, but I don't like being near them

If shit pops off on a plane, I'm going to throw down. But I hate the idea of stray bullets

Not gonna lie, I've gone to like 5 movies in the last 15 years since im scared of movie theater shootings (despite the low odds)

I just fucken hate guns
I love you, but these are a lot of very irrational fears.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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so you only care if people die by guns? What do you know about crime in CA?
Per capita, it appears to be about average for America in violent crime rates.

But we are talking gun restrictions impacting gun homicide and mass shooting rates.

You seemed to feel pretty strong about the stats for the Federal AWB showing no impact but seem to shy away from talking about the statistics coming out of the state with low gun homicide rates per capita and some of the most restrictive gun laws.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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You know what I do for a living.

If the mosque shootings had taken place the previous Friday or the next Friday, I would have been taking calls from inside the mosques like several of my colleagues were. I would have heard dozens of people screaming and begging for their lives - and then shot dead - while the gunman was in the background yelling racist abuse at them.

I don't have a lot of patience for people lying and shilling about this shit.

And for the record, handguns are responsible for a hell of a lot more suffering and death than AR-15 style assault rifles are - but I can see the argument for why handguns are appropriate weapons for self-defence. The guns that Breivik, Tarrant, Mateen, Paddock, Crusius and others used to massacre hundreds of strangers? They are not defensive weapons. They are assault rifles.

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Depends on what you're defending and who you're defending it against. If it's practical for defending your liberties from a well-regulated militia, and AR15 is supremely defensive.

I think that things like "mental health care access" and "Law Enforcement accountability" solve these problems and a lot more problems that are a lot more important. Limiting access to AR15s is impossible to accomplish in a way that will impact the lethality of these events.

How do you limit access to AR-15s? what is the mechanism that you're going to use to accomplish this?

And in the time that it will take and for the money it will cost, couldn't we have a done a whole lot better by addressing the fundamental issues?
 

Filthy

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Per capita, it appears to be about average for America in violent crime rates.

But we are talking gun restrictions impacting gun homicide and mass shooting rates.

You seemed to feel pretty strong about the stats for the Federal AWB showing no impact but seem to shy away from talking about the statistics coming out of the state with low gun homicide rates per capita and some of the most restrictive gun laws.
I think you're cherry-picking a data point that doesn't carry across the population.

Number #1 in violent crime is Washington, DC - they have some of the strictest firearm laws in the nation. If limiting firearm access is such a panacea, why can't we talk about Chicago and NYC?
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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Did a quick search. Marshall's might have slow bullets (weaker explosive?) And ceramic bullets. Shit like that

I'm still just anti-guns on planes tho. I know alot of you love guns, but I don't like being near them

If shit pops off on a plane, I'm going to throw down. But I hate the idea of stray bullets

Not gonna lie, I've gone to like 5 movies in the last 15 years since im scared of movie theater shootings (despite the low odds)

I just fucken hate guns

Ps. Worlds full of pussies
i've been on planes where the whole fucking back of the plane opens up.

a couple little holes aren't freaking me out. :)
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I think you're cherry-picking a data point that doesn't carry across the population.

Number #1 in violent crime is Washington, DC - they have some of the strictest firearm laws in the nation. If limiting firearm access is such a panacea, why can't we talk about Chicago and NYC?
Cities vs states? Seems a strange way to compare.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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California as a state has the strictest gun laws in America. California has a low gun homicide and mass shooting rate per capita.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Stopping toxic flow of guns from U.S. to Mexico
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