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SoupCan

how bout dat
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Heartwrenching to see good, hard working people struggling like this. I know we're feeling it, and I'm sure many here are also but simply dont share it. Know you're not alone.


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This fucking sucks... I ask myself daily how people are managing.

We have friends who bought 13 years ago for under 300k, they are 750k in debt. It's outright predatory letting people borrow as much as they have. I don't fault people as much because the system is built to get them into this situation. It's a major flaw
 

Wild

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This fucking sucks... I ask myself daily how people are managing.
Yeah I wonder also man. Everything is so damn expensive. Grocery prices are so high, especially meat. Gas is back up to $4/gal for 87 oct here. Credit card debt is at record highs. When the student loan reprieve ends, I don't know how people are going to make those payments on top of their living expenses.
 

jason73

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pure retardation . every city over 100k is a 5g smart city in BC . probably in all of canada . the valley has several fires every year . in 2003 we had a much larger fire that burned 275 homes . right now we are at 55 . people get things twisted . anything at all that happens is automatically some mega complex conspiracy these days . odds are someone started this fire by accident or negligence . i have heard it all from DEWS to trudeau sending around a bunch of enviro-terrorist arsonists to burn the city down . in reality what burned is pretty sparsely populated and rural . the only difference between this fire and the fires we usually get is there hasnt been rain all summer and it came with a 50km wind. all this DEW talk sounds good for the tiktok crowd but i am waiting to reserve judgement for when some facts come out in the next couple weeks . if anything the NDP govt can take some blame for cutting back the fire fighting budgets and BCWildfire can take some blame for being unprepared and using inexperienced young firefighters
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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pure retardation . every city over 100k is a 5g smart city in BC . probably in all of canada . the valley has several fires every year . in 2003 we had a much larger fire that burned 275 homes . right now we are at 55 . people get things twisted . anything at all that happens is automatically some mega complex conspiracy these days . odds are someone started this fire by accident or negligence . i have heard it all from DEWS to trudeau sending around a bunch of enviro-terrorist arsonists to burn the city down . in reality what burned is pretty sparsely populated and rural . the only difference between this fire and the fires we usually get is there hasnt been rain all summer and it came with a 50km wind. all this DEW talk sounds good for the tiktok crowd but i am waiting to reserve judgement for when some facts come out in the next couple weeks . if anything the NDP govt can take some blame for cutting back the fire fighting budgets and BCWildfire can take some blame for being unprepared and using inexperienced young firefighters
It's been weird to watch this year. In Northern Ontario we get them every year too, but most people in cities have no idea. So this year when they were like 50km south of where they normally are and the wind blew the wrong way people started freaking out, and the conversation was "This is climate change!!!" or "I'm just saying it's a weird coincidence that with all the climate talk, we're having these fires." The world has turned into a retard convention.
 

jason73

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Damn. Is the entire town of Kelowna basically gone or going to be gone?
not at all . most of the fire is across a huge lake . i think they are up to 190 homes gone right now . kelowna is technically on the east side of the lake while west kelowna is a separate community on the west side of the lake . west kelowna took most of the damage while kelowna only had fires started from flying embers . it looks a lot worse than it is. most of what burned was empty wilderness with a few homes along the lake shore . dont get me wrong . it aint good but it is far from the apocalypse that it is being made out to be . kelowna itself lost 3 houses and 2 outbuildings. the lake at kelowna is a mile wide in its narrowest spot and 84 miles long so most of it was contained to a sparsely populated rural area
 

jason73

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it might seem like the province is on fire but to put things in to perspective it is common for BC to have 1500+ fires every year and 250 fires burning at the same time all summer

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Rambo John J

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not at all . most of the fire is across a huge lake . i think they are up to 190 homes gone right now . kelowna is technically on the east side of the lake while west kelowna is a separate community on the west side of the lake . west kelowna took most of the damage while kelowna only had fires started from flying embers . it looks a lot worse than it is. most of what burned was empty wilderness with a few homes along the lake shore . dont get me wrong . it aint good but it is far from the apocalypse that it is being made out to be . kelowna itself lost 3 houses and 2 outbuildings. the lake at kelowna is a mile wide in its narrowest spot and 84 miles long so most of it was contained to a sparsely populated rural area
Good to hear
The lake is a great firebreak and cities with modern construction don't go up in flames easily.

People here always act as if the city itself could burn up like a forest but the city itself isn't dry wood and vegetation and the city residential areas are irrigated in the summer so there isn't much to burn.
Forest will burn every year here because the willamette valley is basically forest on all sides, it is part of summer and the amount burning is the only thing that changes year to year.

I assume you guys have a bunch of helicopters and those specialized planes scooping water to protect certain areas.
 

jason73

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put it to ya this way ... when the fire really took off on thursday they had 21 men working on it. what the fuck is that supposed to do? the wildfire service is a fucking joke. you take a litle course andd you are a fire fighter . my father owned a logging company for 50 years . they used to always be the ones who would haul in equipment, build fire guards, run skidders and cats with water tanks on the back etc . well they dont do that anymore . they have some college kids ddo it now. . not only do they not do it that way anymore. ...they dont want to hear from the odd guys. at the beginning of this fire a family friend offered up their water truck. they declined . they dont want your equipment and they dont want your operators . we have a NDP govt and if its not a union shop they wont hire . so they send 21 dipshits with water cans on their backs to put this fire out....then the wind picked up and it rage out of control. they should have sent 100 men, real equipment , choppers, planes etc and put it out when it was 64ha and it would have never burned anyones house own in the first place
 

jason73

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Good to hear
The lake is a great firebreak and cities with modern construction don't go up in flames easily.

People here always act as if the city itself could burn up like a forest but the city itself isn't dry wood and vegetation and the city residential areas are irrigated in the summer so there isn't much to burn.
Forest will burn every year here because the willamette valley is basically forest on all sides, it is part of summer and the amount burning is the only thing that changes year to year.

I assume you guys have a bunch of helicopters and those specialized planes scooping water to protect certain areas.
we literally build helicopters here and have like at least 5 local helicopter companies . the problem is the government only contracts to a few of them and is real slow to move
 

jason73

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It finally rained last night and the smoke lifted enough to see the mountains. I took a couple pics on my way up to work this morning. This is all that is left of the fire20230823_055154.jpg20230823_055140.jpg