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Hauler

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I get that, you’ve made it clear. That’s why I’m trying to help you understand it better.
It’s not a stock. And assuming people will treat it like a stock is precisely why you shouldn’t. Because that gives you an edge on those that do. That make sense?
Stocks are controlled by an entity that can make changes. They can split, reverse split, dilute them etc.
That’s not something that can be done with Bitcoin. The supply is fixed. That makes a huge difference in price dynamics of the asset.
The XRP supply is also fixed, correct?
At a huge amount - and the creators kept half in reserve - but fixed, correct?

I'm not looking to invest long term. Crypto is too volatile for me to be comfortable having funds I actually needed tied to. And I admit - had I jumped on board when I first heard about bitcoin - or even at the beginning of the crypto thread that was created on this site - I could probably retire at this point. Oh well.

But just looking at XRP - which I also know very little about. In 5 days it jumped up 87%. I went with XRP because I looked at that as a greater possibility than bitcoin doing the same - which an 87% spike would represent a price of $180,479

I'm looking at percentage growth that I can - as you stated - convert back to cash and reinvest elsewhere. I understand that's not your strategy at all.

By no means am I saying that XRP is a better value than bitcoin. I'm just saying if you are looking to burn and turn - it's the better option at current levels. At least it was - A sharp pullback at this point wouldn't shock me. It can't continue to climb at the rate it has.
 

Hauler

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I pussied out. Paper hands!
I took my original investment x2 out. Letting the rest ride.

So even if it goes to $0 - the worst I did is a double up. I'll never spit on 100% gains.

Depending on how much it pulls back - if it pulls back - I'll buy more.

Anyone know how this works for taxes? Typical capital gains like a stock?
 

Hauler

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Only 1 explanation here....

Everyone is selling their bitcoin and jumping on the XRP train !!!
 

SiLVa_ABCTT

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The XRP supply is also fixed, correct?
At a huge amount - and the creators kept half in reserve - but fixed, correct?
Yeah the (shady as fuck) creators, just look at their history and what they’ve been involved in.
Not sure how fixed the supply is, in reality and yeah and them taking half is ridiculously scammy. If you can’t understand why that is, I can’t help you.
I wish you well on that investment but there is no way I would put any money in XRP.
If you were a family member I would be advising you to cash out and be happy you were lucky enough to profit.
I hope I’m wrong for your sake.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Yeah the (shady as fuck) creators, just look at their history and what they’ve been involved in.
Not sure how fixed the supply is, in reality and yeah and them taking half is ridiculously scammy. If you can’t understand why that is, I can’t help you.
I wish you well on that investment but there is no way I would put any money in XRP.
If you were a family member I would be advising you to cash out and be happy you were lucky enough to profit.
I hope I’m wrong for your sake.
I already doubled up on cash.
Everything from here on out is house money and then some.

I got in at $0.47 / coin.
It's up more than that today alone. Haha. Crazy.
 

Hauler

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and them taking half is ridiculously scammy. If you can’t understand why that is, I can’t help you.
I understand that it's scammy.
I just don't care.

Just trying to hitch a ride on some gains.

 

AnotherTMAGuy

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There's a reason why the government is building a Bitcoin reserve. As long as the dollar keeps losing value, the government is going to use btc to keep it up.
 

SiLVa_ABCTT

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When people say XRP can flip Bitcoin all they need to do is look at this chart(XRP priced in Bitcoin). Not even close.
All the banks and all the institutions in the world can’t change that.
 

Bungee up

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I wasn't going to keep coming back to this thread because I know people don't really want to hear my sceptical opinion on crypto . Even if they aren't the same ones as everyone's heard before but this is the appropriate place for this.
I could go on a major rant but will try to keep it brief as possible.
This is going to be a crazy next 4 years for crypto . I'm not clear exactly on what will happen with the markets but I'm absolutely certain we're all about to get fucked and this admission is going to bring in the CBDC.
That goes back to a prediction I made about a year ago that if trump gets in they will use it as a way to do something super fucked up. I don't have the same criticisms as most ancaps on trump. For the most part I'm an apologist for the guy. But he's going to , like with covid, convince his people to go along with something they never would have normally stood for.

Elon is involved and his lifelong dream has been to do what he intended with x.com.
They will convince people we need to do it because of the debt but they won't do shit about the debt , it'll be a slight of hand tactic.
We're very comparable to living through the federal reserve act of 1913. I don't think there's shit anyone could have done to protect themselves from that at the time. And not to much changed immediately for the everyday person, but it changed absolutely everything in the long run.

I don't know if people agree, disagree or are interested in hearing my conspiracys in more depth, if so I'll happily elaborate. Or wether there's any predictions on how to protect ourselves/ or profit. I'm interested.
I'm pretty certain there will be a big bull run soon but I think it will go to shit somewhere along the line soon.
I don't know if investing in XRP would be of any benefit at all , or even gold for that matter. We're going to get fucked here and most people won't even know it.
Sorry for the TLDR.
 

sparkuri

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I wasn't going to keep coming back to this thread because I know people don't really want to hear my sceptical opinion on crypto . Even if they aren't the same ones as everyone's heard before but this is the appropriate place for this.
I could go on a major rant but will try to keep it brief as possible.
This is going to be a crazy next 4 years for crypto . I'm not clear exactly on what will happen with the markets but I'm absolutely certain we're all about to get fucked and this admission is going to bring in the CBDC.
That goes back to a prediction I made about a year ago that if trump gets in they will use it as a way to do something super fucked up. I don't have the same criticisms as most ancaps on trump. For the most part I'm an apologist for the guy. But he's going to , like with covid, convince his people to go along with something they never would have normally stood for.

Elon is involved and his lifelong dream has been to do what he intended with x.com.
They will convince people we need to do it because of the debt but they won't do shit about the debt , it'll be a slight of hand tactic.
We're very comparable to living through the federal reserve act of 1913. I don't think there's shit anyone could have done to protect themselves from that at the time. And not to much changed immediately for the everyday person, but it changed absolutely everything in the long run.

I don't know if people agree, disagree or are interested in hearing my conspiracys in more depth, if so I'll happily elaborate. Or wether there's any predictions on how to protect ourselves/ or profit. I'm interested.
I'm pretty certain there will be a big bull run soon but I think it will go to shit somewhere along the line soon.
I don't know if investing in XRP would be of any benefit at all , or even gold for that matter. We're going to get fucked here and most people won't even know it.
Sorry for the TLDR.
I'm certain you're partially right, but this fight has to be fought. We need to hunt these mf'rs down.
Crypto will get killed, all markets will.
I've said this time & again, they will nuke us all, they'll do anything.
They proved it with Covid & the vax.
I'm still sold on everything as being strategized chaos before apophis hits us or the poles shift.
Is whatever's coming will be biblical in my opinion.
 

SiLVa_ABCTT

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Aug 13, 2024
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I wasn't going to keep coming back to this thread because I know people don't really want to hear my sceptical opinion on crypto . Even if they aren't the same ones as everyone's heard before but this is the appropriate place for this.
I could go on a major rant but will try to keep it brief as possible.
This is going to be a crazy next 4 years for crypto . I'm not clear exactly on what will happen with the markets but I'm absolutely certain we're all about to get fucked and this admission is going to bring in the CBDC.
That goes back to a prediction I made about a year ago that if trump gets in they will use it as a way to do something super fucked up. I don't have the same criticisms as most ancaps on trump. For the most part I'm an apologist for the guy. But he's going to , like with covid, convince his people to go along with something they never would have normally stood for.

Elon is involved and his lifelong dream has been to do what he intended with x.com.
They will convince people we need to do it because of the debt but they won't do shit about the debt , it'll be a slight of hand tactic.
We're very comparable to living through the federal reserve act of 1913. I don't think there's shit anyone could have done to protect themselves from that at the time. And not to much changed immediately for the everyday person, but it changed absolutely everything in the long run.

I don't know if people agree, disagree or are interested in hearing my conspiracys in more depth, if so I'll happily elaborate. Or wether there's any predictions on how to protect ourselves/ or profit. I'm interested.
I'm pretty certain there will be a big bull run soon but I think it will go to shit somewhere along the line soon.
I don't know if investing in XRP would be of any benefit at all , or even gold for that matter. We're going to get fucked here and most people won't even know it.
Sorry for the TLDR.
I’m not sure what the future holds. No one is. For years I disregarded Bitcoin and what it can be used for because of that conspiracy mindset that tends to believe claims that attribute way more power and control to the system than they really have.

Just for reference. I’ve been a conspiracy theorist/researcher for decades. Was an avid prepper type since before 9/11.
I was personally acquainted with Bill Cooper before he was killed in 2001. Went to numerous Hour of the Time Conferences he hosted near his house and militia meet ups. That’s how I know the value of hard money and the importance of actual decentralization.
I know there is a sliver of truth to some of the conspiracy theories that came out of the early 90s, about martial law, world government, cashless surveillance system etc. but what most people don’t realize is these things have evolved and changed over time. The powers that be are also adapting to changing conditions outside of their control. And while I see parallels to some of those past conspiracy theory ideas, I don’t think everything out there is valid or even still in play either. So many conspiracy grifters and charlatans in the space so you have to be careful what you believe because it’s also used as another alternative way to push narratives that are favorable to them.

If a CBDC comes it won’t be an outright Federal Reserve CBDC. It will more likely be a dollar associated stablecoin.
Either way, Bitcoin’s value may fluctuate, maybe even violently but its properties don’t change. And can’t be changed easily at all so it is collapse-proof in that sense, maybe not collapse-proof in dollar value but in it’s foundational properties, its as bullet proof as can be. Certainty no other crypto can claim the same.

XRP has been real good at marketing to the conspiracy crowd based on many empty promises and false representations. They prey on people not understanding the tech, how it works and leveraging associations with former bank officials and institutions but it’s all nonsense marketing so they can dump and make themselves richer. It’s been obvious to me since 2018.
All altcoin founders say the same thing, they usually claim to want to take their profits and put it into Bitcoin ultimately. So all those crypto altcoin rivers will eventually flow into the big ocean that is Bitcoin.
Because keeping their monetary value in some shitcoin that keeps dumping and has no network effect is a lose/lose strategy and they all know it.
Just look at the shitcoin EOS for example. The founders are still around and profitable because they took all ICO profits and just bought 140,000 Bitcoin with it at the time. I bet people still own bags of it though.
Their profit on the Bitcoin they hold is far greater in value surpassing the whole market cap of their shitcoin 😂

It’s possible they pull off some catastrophic financial event, they may try to blame crypto/bitcoin, as some financial false flag but I’m prepared for that. I’m not going to not buy bitcoin just because of a small possibility that doesn’t effect the way it works or change the rules of the network. Because Bitcoin if even devalued drastically in dollar terms, will still be worth holding and using.
 
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Hauler

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Feb 3, 2016
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Every time Bitcoin hits a crazy number I always think it's fucking nuts. But it just keeps going up.

I thought $20k was crazy.
LMAO @ $100k
There are some rich ass motherfuckers out there.

Maybe I'll take some of my XRP profit and drop it in Bitcoin.
 

SiLVa_ABCTT

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Maybe I'll take some of my XRP profit and drop it in Bitcoin.
It will do far better than XRP if you do.
Like I said above, all the little crypto rivers flow into the ocean of Bitcoin over time.
Just look at the XRP chart priced in Bitcoin. It show you everything you need to know.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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It will do far better than XRP if you do.
Like I said above, all the little crypto rivers flow into the ocean of Bitcoin over time.
Just look at the XRP chart priced in Bitcoin. It show you everything you need to know.
Oh I know.
I also know that Bitcoin didn't go up 380% in 30 days. XRP was ripe for a run with the SEC news.

Just like Maverick in Top Gun. I had the shot. There was no danger. So I took it.

 

Bungee up

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I’m not sure what the future holds. No one is. For years I disregarded Bitcoin and what it can be used for because of that conspiracy mindset that tends to believe claims that attribute way more power and control to the system than they really have.

Just for reference. I’ve been a conspiracy theorist/researcher for decades. Was an avid prepper type since before 9/11.
I was personally acquainted with Bill Cooper before he was killed in 2001. Went to numerous Hour of the Time Conferences he hosted near his house and militia meet ups. That’s how I know the value of hard money and the importance of actual decentralization.
I know there is a sliver of truth to some of the conspiracy theories that came out of the early 90s, about martial law, world government, cashless surveillance system etc. but what most people don’t realize is these things have evolved and changed over time. The powers that be are also adapting to changing conditions outside of their control. And while I see parallels to some of those past conspiracy theory ideas, I don’t think everything out there is valid or even still in play either. So many conspiracy grifters and charlatans in the space so you have to be careful what you believe because it’s also used as another alternative way to push narratives that are favorable to them.

If a CBDC comes it won’t be an outright Federal Reserve CBDC. It will more likely be a dollar associated stablecoin.
Either way, Bitcoin’s value may fluctuate, maybe even violently but its properties don’t change. And can’t be changed easily at all so it is collapse-proof in that sense, maybe not collapse-proof in dollar value but in it’s foundational properties, its as bullet proof as can be. Certainty no other crypto can claim the same.

XRP has been real good at marketing to the conspiracy crowd based on many empty promises and false representations. They prey on people not understanding the tech, how it works and leveraging associations with former bank officials and institutions but it’s all nonsense marketing so they can dump and make themselves richer. It’s been obvious to me since 2018.
All altcoin founders say the same thing, they usually claim to want to take their profits and put it into Bitcoin ultimately. So all those crypto altcoin rivers will eventually flow into the big ocean that is Bitcoin.
Because keeping their monetary value in some shitcoin that keeps dumping and has no network effect is a lose/lose strategy and they all know it.
Just look at the shitcoin EOS for example. The founders are still around and profitable because they took all ICO profits and just bought 140,000 Bitcoin with it at the time. I bet people still own bags of it though.
Their profit on the Bitcoin they hold is far greater in value surpassing the whole market cap of their shitcoin 😂

It’s possible they pull off some catastrophic financial event, they may try to blame crypto/bitcoin, as some financial false flag but I’m prepared for that. I’m not going to not buy bitcoin just because of a small possibility that doesn’t effect the way it works or change the rules of the network. Because Bitcoin if even devalued drastically in dollar terms, will still be worth holding and using.
Great post. thank you.
I agree 1000% with the conspiracy grifters observation.
That's super interesting you were acquainted with Bill Cooper.
I'd like to give a deeper explanation at some stage with where my head is at with " conspiracys " .
Definitely agree with the CBDC being some version of a stable coin.
Honestly I pretty much totally agree with your entire post.
Just a quick question for now . How did the hashgraph technology and ripple for that matter come along?
That's the tec I expect them to use. It won't be / can't be bitcoin.
 

IschKabibble

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I still expect a monumental collapse of Bitcoin. All these "currencies" floating around, how many thousands now? Nobody bought $HAWK with the expectation of it being a reliable security. It was bought for the quick pump and dump. They just didn't expect it to happen in 10 minutes. lol
 

SiLVa_ABCTT

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That's super interesting you were acquainted with Bill Cooper
It was completely by chance. I used to make fun of a friend of mine for his conspiracy theories - we were like 18/19 years old and he told me to look Bill up as a challenge to think outside the box. I read his book and consumed some of his radio shows and when I heard one that mentioned his CAJI group (Citizen’s Agency for Joint Intelligence) and the conferences, I needed to get more answers and wanted to go in person to really get a good read on the people and what they were about. I was skeptical. Changed my life, even that brief time I knew him was only like 18- 20 months before he was killed. Once he was killed and I knew how it happened, it blew my mind. I could tell they murdered him because he would be a problem for the government. Bill’s instincts were nuts when it came to sniffing out bullshit. He exposed 9/11 months before it happened and called Alex Jones a liar on air - a month later he was dead. His death completely hushed and disregarded. I still talk to Doyel and Rob who took over the website for Bill afterwards. CAJI was disbanded. Gave me a whole different outlook on a lot of stuff. But also realized where Bill was wrong on some things and even to this day he’s misquoted and used to push certain narratives. Nothing is ever black and white. So I’m always digging into shit. Just don’t post a lot about it because I’m not trying to convince people of anything except solutions.
Just a quick question for now . How did the hashgraph technology and ripple for that matter come along?
A lot of these things came about as alternatives to Bitcoin in one form or another. The tech wasn’t as bulletproof or decentralized in comparison. And ultimately neither of them do anything that can’t be done with Bitcoin. This is the case for many of the cryptocurrencies out there.
Bitcoin even at its basic layer is far more secure and trustless. With Ripple and Hedera, you have to trust the founders and their intentions and I’m just not going to do that because it makes no sense. They have their own incentives otherwise they could develop on Bitcoin but they make some other token because they want to print money for themselves.
One of the shady Ripple founders was part of Mt. Gox fiasco. I just don’t trust them.