General ELIR: Tariffs

[vad]

I know the definition of it.

I see articles that both praise and question Trumps plan to use them in ways that are perhaps unconventional, for lack of a better term.

If there are areas I am unashamed to say I like Trump in, its economically and in foreign relations. So I tend to not feel any real panic over whatever he has in mind, mostly. I will say that hitting Canada hard is a red flag to me, but there is just too much I do not understand. In fact, its this act that has me making this thread.

What do you think Trump is doing, what is his game, what is his goal? What good/bad can or will come of this? What pain will be felt now with the idea that it pays dividends down the road?

 

[jason73]

all i know is he has handed a life line to Trudeau by doing this. he was half dead and on the ropes 2 weeks ago and now he has people rallying around a new found canadian nationalist sentiment . the Liberal party was about to be destroyed in an upcoming election but now i am not so sure

 

[Uncle Tom Doug]

I think his ultimate goal is to bring manufacturing back to the United States. The first Bush and Clinton royally fucked over America with NAFTA.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

all i know is he has handed a life line to Trudeau by doing this. he was half dead and on the ropes 2 weeks ago and now he has people rallying around a new found canadian nationalist sentiment . the Liberal party was about to be destroyed in an upcoming election but now i am not so sure

It's terrifying to watch people cheer on our food and clothing going up 25% because "Orange man bad!"

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I think his ultimate goal is to bring manufacturing back to the United States. The first Bush and Clinton royally fucked over America with NAFTA.

His stated goal is to eliminate income tax and make up the money with tariffs. The problem is the way he's driving up prices will cause Americans to want to buy American. If that happens, the government has no money coming in.

You thought people wanted him dead before, wait until he tells Lockheed he doesn't have their money.

It's also kind of weird to watch him talk about America being ripped off on the trade deal he made. No one seems to want to talk about that though.

 

[jason73]

I think his ultimate goal is to bring manufacturing back to the United States. The first Bush and Clinton royally fucked over America with NAFTA.

they fucked us too . when ross perot said "hear that sucking sound?" that was our manufacturing getting sucked down to mexico too

 

[jason73]

View: https://youtu.be/W3LvZAZ-HV4

 

[MountainMedic]

His stated goal is to eliminate income tax and make up the money with tariffs.

The "big statement/dare" to get what he really wants.
Its already working, countries only fuck themselves by trying to say "oh yeah!?!"

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

The "big statement/dare" to get what he really wants.
Its already working, countries only fuck themselves by trying to say "oh yeah!?!"

Can you explain? I really don't follow what you're saying.

 

[MountainMedic]

Can you explain? I really don't follow what you're saying.

Because then they have to explain to their citizens why. And it never makes sense.

This isn't about "tariff/tax every other country so Americans don't have to pay their fair share"
This is "if other countries played fair there would be little need for taxes, our government wouldn't need to take from us to fund countries that do little for us in the big picture"

We need a different NAFTA, North American Fair Trade Alliance.

We could be a unified and strong, self contained, backstop against world economic manipulation.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

We need a different NAFTA, North American Fair Trade Alliance.

Trump already did that. According to himself anyways.

 

[jason73]

trump should have waited 6 months and canada would have had a different government . deals could be made . there is no dealing with team WEF . they will let us all starve before they will give up the TDS

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

trump should have waited 6 months and canada would have had a different government . deals could be made . there is no dealing with team WEF . they will let us all starve before they will give up the TDS

Trump might have killed Canada this weekend.

 

[Uncle Tom Doug]

His stated goal is to eliminate income tax and make up the money with tariffs. The problem is the way he's driving up prices will cause Americans to want to buy American. If that happens, the government has no money coming in.

You thought people wanted him dead before, wait until he tells Lockheed he doesn't have their money.

It's also kind of weird to watch him talk about America being ripped off on the trade deal he made. No one seems to want to talk about that though.

The Income tax and tariffs are means to an end, not the ultimate goal. The United States is the largest consumer market in the world, there will always be imports.

We'll be just fine.

 

[kvr28]

Schumer explains Tariffs to the common man


View: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1886209173743919468

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

The Income tax and tariffs are means to an end, not the ultimate goal. The United States is the largest consumer market in the world, there will always be imports.

We'll be just fine.

That means you're trading one income tax for another, but I digress.

What's the ultimate goal?

 

[vad]

So no one really knows. I guess maybe that's the scary part.

 

[Uncle Tom Doug]

That means you're trading one income tax for another, but I digress.

What's the ultimate goal?

To bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and to stop the U.S. from being fucked in trade deals. Trump has been talking about this since the 80's, it's nothing new.

 

[Jamie999]

To bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and to stop the U.S. from being fucked in trade deals. Trump has been talking about this since the 80's, it's nothing new.

It doesn't matter how much sense you make.. He isn't interested in the truth he's a gay commie lol.

 

[vad]

This is where we need Ross Perot and a telescoping pointer with graphs and charts. Its one thing to say tariffs will do this and they will do that, but how?

 

[Jam_Handy]

🔴 Tariffs Harm Most the Nations That Impose Them - Ep 1007

Trump imposes tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China. Market turmoil, stock drops, rising dollar, higher consumer prices, and economic impacts.Upgrade your war...

www.youtube.com

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

To bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and to stop the U.S. from being fucked in trade deals. Trump has been talking about this since the 80's, it's nothing new.

So did he get outfoxed by JT when he introduced his new trade agreement?

 

[Uncle Tom Doug]

So did he get outfoxed by JT when he introduced his new trade agreement?

Canada is on the brink of collapse, so I doubt it.

 

[segfault]

Mexico agrees to deploy 10,000 troops to US border in exchange for tariff pause

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has agreed to deploy 10,000 national guard troops to block drug trafficking at the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.foxnews.com

Starting to make sense now?

Canada will follow suit shortly. They can't afford not to.

 

[Robbie Hart]

His stated goal is to eliminate income tax and make up the money with tariffs. The problem is the way he's driving up prices will cause Americans to want to buy American. If that happens, the government has no money coming in.

You thought people wanted him dead before, wait until he tells Lockheed he doesn't have their money.

It's also kind of weird to watch him talk about America being ripped off on the trade deal he made. No one seems to want to talk about that though.

Fuck income tax, fuck the irs and fuck Lockheed