Dana White: I was never in this business for the money

[La Paix]

Honestly, I believe him. Dana genuinely fell in love with MMA once upon a time.

But capitalism corrupts.

This. There was a time that he cared about the fighters, and was in the sport for the right reasons. That time passed a long time ago. Money, Power, Ego corrupts people.

You 2 honestly think that when Dana had his 2 bff's who happen to be multimillionaires offer him a job that his heart was about the fighters? Money was just an after thought?

 

[kneeblock]

You 2 honestly think that when Dana had his 2 bff's who happen to be multimillionaires offer him a job that his heart was about the fighters? Money was just an after thought?

Of course he was about the money, but they didn't offer him a job. He went to them as potential investors. I'm sure from managing Chuck and Tito he knew the sport had a lot of growth potential and also knew there were a lot of rubes to be exploited, but by then he had also been training with John Lewis for a few years and of course already had boxing training. Dana seems to have been a legit fight fan and decided to try to make money doing something he liked is all I'm saying. He and the Fertittas endured the lean times because of it, but once they got out of those times and experienced mega-success, like most, they started to get that sense of entitlement that it was all because of their own sacrifices and so they didn't owe anyone anything. That's what capitalism does to you. It takes what you love, commodifies it, and disposes you to narcissism. I don't hate the players. I hate the game.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Of course he was about the money, but they didn't offer him a job. He went to them as potential investors. I'm sure from managing Chuck and Tito he knew the sport had a lot of growth potential and also knew there were a lot of rubes to be exploited, but by then he had also been training with John Lewis for a few years and of course already had boxing training. Dana seems to have been a legit fight fan and decided to try to make money doing something he liked is all I'm saying. He and the Fertittas endured the lean times because of it, but once they got out of those times and experienced mega-success, like most, they started to get that sense of entitlement that it was all because of their own sacrifices and so they didn't owe anyone anything. That's what capitalism does to you. It takes what you love, commodifies it, and disposes you to narcissism. I don't hate the players. I hate the game.

You're doing a lot of stretching to accommodate the notion that Dana wasn't always a greedy bastard. He managed Chuck and Tito (for money) then went to his super rich buddies with a business proposal to buy the UFC. Buy a failing business for pennies on the dollar for it's brand name recognition, and build it up in order to reap the profits. They've discussed it publicly at length, they didn't turn into greedy, ruthless business people overnight.

 

[La Paix]

Of course he was about the money, but they didn't offer him a job. He went to them as potential investors. I'm sure from managing Chuck and Tito he knew the sport had a lot of growth potential and also knew there were a lot of rubes to be exploited, but by then he had also been training with John Lewis for a few years and of course already had boxing training. Dana seems to have been a legit fight fan and decided to try to make money doing something he liked is all I'm saying. He and the Fertittas endured the lean times because of it, but once they got out of those times and experienced mega-success, like most, they started to get that sense of entitlement that it was all because of their own sacrifices and so they didn't owe anyone anything. That's what capitalism does to you. It takes what you love, commodifies it, and disposes you to narcissism. I don't hate the players. I hate the game.

JHB summed up most my thoughts.

The "don't hate the players hate the game" thing is on par with "no publicity is bad publicity" saying. Both feel like something a person just says when they want to wrap up their thoughts but it doesn't really make sense to me. The game were talking about was created by the players, without them their is no game. People in a position to exploit for personal gain do so because it's in their nature usually. I don't buy for a second that Dana and the F brothers got into MMA because they had the fighters best intentions at the forefront. If one approaches wealthy people to invest or are approached by them instead it's going to be about money first.

 

[Wild]

Ok Dana sucks. You fucks happy now?

 

[kneeblock]

JHB summed up most my thoughts.

The "don't hate the players hate the game" thing is on par with "no publicity is bad publicity" saying. Both feel like something a person just says when they want to wrap up their thoughts but it doesn't really make sense to me. The game were talking about was created by the players, without them their is no game. People in a position to exploit for personal gain do so because it's in their nature usually. I don't buy for a second that Dana and the F brothers got into MMA because they had the fighters best intentions at the forefront. If one approaches wealthy people to invest or are approached by them instead it's going to be about money first.

Having the fighters best interests at heart has nothing to do with loving the sport.