For now yes.
Totally agree answer when I said that about jones and Gus some people went nuts but we have seen Jon use that as the main tool to his victories. I still think Gus beats him in a rematch. Even this version of Gus because this version of Jon isn't the same either
Wlad doesn't have a good chin, and his fight-IQ is questionable at best. He is also 41 years old. And he lost to way shorter fighters too.
Jones is still kinda young, adaptable, more flexible, seems to have a good chin yada yada. I don't think its a good comparison.
Jones is still kinda young, adaptable, more flexible, seems to have a good chin yada yada. I don't think its a good comparison.
not height , his reach is the problem.
Not comparing chins . I am talking about his reach , he can keep all fighters at a distance . If Wlad didn't have a fight IQ then how in the world he would remain champ for so many years. Wlad also keeps his opponents at a distance with his reach.
If they both didn't have so much reach they would have been easily Koed.
technically no
Physicality, extreme discipline, technically sound.
And technically, bisping won that fight against Hamill and Leben
all i can say is records are records... i dont agree with it but its there
Boxing history is in many parts an American-centric hypejob.
If the Klitschkos tried to be foulmouthed, arrogant English-speakers. Things would be different.
That and if Lennox didn't run as far as he could.
Just as an example, Joe Louis is rated as one of the best, prolly top3 in most lists.
He had two defining fights against Schmeling, then fought many bums (they even called em that), until finally losing his last fight.
And yeah I do think the era is seen weak mainly because there were no dominant Americans in it, or respectively nobody America cared about, since the Klitschkos didn't care about marketing much themselves. And Lennox ran.
Lennox was 38 by the time he fought Vitali. I agree it hurt the division that he didn't hang around until he lost, but he had had 44 fights, was losing desire and had made a lot of money already. It was a smart move on his part to retire when he did. Vitali hung around until 40 but no one is going to suggest his late career wins were the same quality as Lennox's.
It was a smart move on his part, no denying that. But thinking about making a case for the Klitschkos, 'not really' having this name on the record hurts em bad. Vitali was already 33 too or something, not being very marketable didn't help em in career chances either. Lennox might have done it for more cash. He'd have rematched Tyson probably..
But I think Vitali much more so than Wladimir would have been a challenge for anyone of the greats. Now the thing is, you have both in their era. They didn't fight each other, but you have both dominating. Doesn't that make an era kinda strong? I feel like people just remove it and act like its only one fighter, its not though, its two great fighters.
They both know how to use their reach.
