General Ohio man sentenced to 19 years for shooting police K9

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CINCINNATI – A man who shot a police dog during a pursuit in 2016 was sentenced to 19 years in prison Wednesday.

Tyler Jones was shot by Springfield Township police after he wounded K-9 Pako in the shoulder and aimed his gun at officers, police said. Jones pleaded guilty to seven felony charges.

Pako recovered, returned to duty and was awarded the K-9 Valor Award by the North American Police Work Dog Association last week in a ceremony in Eureka, Missouri.



The shootings happened after police tried to stop a suspected drunk driver in Springdale at 1:45 a.m. on June 3. Police said a female passenger appeared to attempt to get out of the moving car, which was finally halted by police using stop sticks on Winton Road near West North Bend Road.

Police said Jones, 27, ran down Winton Road with Pako giving chase until he turned and fired a semiautomatic handgun. Jones was charged with four counts of felonious assault along with one count of assaulting a police dog, carrying a concealed weapon, and possession of weapons while under disability.

The female suspect was arrested but not hurt.

"When a suspect is firing shots, it’s the same as the police officers that were taking fire," Springfield Township Police Chief Robert Browder said at the time. "It’s the same thing - the dog and the human police officers. There’s no difference to me."

 

kneeblock

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I feel for the dog, but reading this it occurs to me how weird and maybe immoral it is for humans to use dogs in law enforcement.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Lol@ the title. I have a sneaking suspicion that the 19 years may have also been related to the other 6 charges he plead guilty to.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I feel for the dog, but reading this it occurs to me how weird and maybe immoral it is for humans to use dogs in law enforcement.
If you ever have the opportunity to see a working dog work, your perspective will likely change. It's not unlike rodeo bulls or race horses. They don't just arbitrarily select an animal and hope for the best. The ones that do it, exist to do so.
 

kneeblock

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If you ever have the opportunity to see a working dog work, your perspective will likely change. It's not unlike rodeo bulls or race horses. They don't just arbitrarily select an animal and hope for the best. The ones that do it, exist to do so.
Yeah, that's the immoral part.
 

maurice

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Springfield Township Police Chief Robert Browder said[,] "It’s the same thing - the dog and the human police officers. There’s no difference to me."
I'm all for hiring the disabled, but they really shouldn't let this crazy person be police chief.
 
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Some have a predisposition that others do not.
I asked a cop buddy this but he didn't give me a clear answer, but maybe you might know.

Any idea why most police forces are preferring Malis (Belgian Malinois) over German Shepherds nowadays?

It seems the Mali has taken over as the most popular police dog, at least here in the US. I imagine it's probably the same in Canada.
 

Wintermute

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So if an animal shows it enjoys doing something we should deny them of that?
They're not doing it because they enjoy it- they're bred and selected to do it, and represent a significant investment. The PD uses them because they're better at certain things- like smelling drugs and/or weapons, and pursuing dangerous criminals and bringing them down- than humans.
 

Mix6APlix

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When I was doing SWAP (community service), one day I got appointed to go clean shut at the county's K9 training center.

There were 5 or 6 of us, so it didn't take long, and after we cleaned the kennels, we all washed our hands, hand an early lunch, and the to K9 trainers were really cool compared to other shithead cops I encountered.

There was one young dog, a German shepard, that they couldn't get to go over the A Frame obstacle. After lunch, the trainers basically said we were just going to sit there until the van came back to take us to the courthouse.

So I asked if I could try to get him to run the A Frame. At first they said no, but I was persistent. I told them that I relieved them of all accountability, and said they have plenty of witnesses of such. So after enough persistence, the trainers finally agreed, and gave me basically a 3 foot, hardened rubber chew toy.

Everyone else from SWAP was looking at me like I was bat shit crazy. After a little bit of tug o war with Kato, I started to get him to hit the A Frame. Took about 2 hours, but I finally got him to go over it, although not very gracefully. Bottom line is I got the dog to do what the 'professional' trainers couldnt. I'm just good with dogs like that.
 

Zeph

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I asked a cop buddy this but he didn't give me a clear answer, but maybe you might know.

Any idea why most police forces are preferring Malis (Belgian Malinois) over German Shepherds nowadays?

It seems the Mali has taken over as the most popular police dog, at least here in the US. I imagine it's probably the same in Canada.
 

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They're not doing it because they enjoy it- they're bred and selected to do it, and represent a significant investment. The PD uses them because they're better at certain things- like smelling drugs and/or weapons, and pursuing dangerous criminals and bringing them down- than humans.
If breeding and training were the only reasons animals do something then every duck hunter would have a world class Labrador. The drive and determination of the animal seperates which ones are pets and which ones work.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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They're not doing it because they enjoy it- they're bred and selected to do it, and represent a significant investment. The PD uses them because they're better at certain things- like smelling drugs and/or weapons, and pursuing dangerous criminals and bringing them down- than humans.
That's almost entirely incorrect. Genetics doesn't guarantee disposition. It's why identical twins don't have identical personalities. Now, do they selectively breed in hopes of creating a great working dog? Yes, but not all dogs actually turn into working dogs as they don't have the predisposition to the work. The most common police dog also isn't the best at pursuing or smelling drugs they show a strong desire to work and please their masters.

When you see 2 dogs being trained and one of them enjoys working where the other does not it becomes almost immediately apparent.
 

Mix6APlix

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That's almost entirely incorrect. Genetics doesn't guarantee disposition. It's why identical twins don't have identical personalities. Now, do they selectively breed in hopes of creating a great working dog? Yes, but not all dogs actually turn into working dogs as they don't have the predisposition to the work. The most common police dog also isn't the best at pursuing or smelling drugs they show a strong desire to work and please their masters.

When you see 2 dogs being trained and one of them enjoys working where the other does not it becomes almost immediately apparent.
I like this post.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I asked a cop buddy this but he didn't give me a clear answer, but maybe you might know.

Any idea why most police forces are preferring Malis (Belgian Malinois) over German Shepherds nowadays?

It seems the Mali has taken over as the most popular police dog, at least here in the US. I imagine it's probably the same in Canada.
My understanding is that it's primarily because the Belgians are leaner and more maneuverable than their bigger GSD counterparts. I also have a sneaking suspicion that the human impact on the Belgian genepool hasn't been as significant as it was on the Shepherds which let's them stay healthier.
 

silentsinger

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I feel for the dog, but reading this it occurs to me how weird and maybe immoral it is for humans to use dogs in law enforcement.
I did a Citizen's Police Academy a couple of years ago and when they were asked about that they didn't really have much of an answer.

I felt pretty bad for them, they were there to teach us about the K9 division of the force and got ripped to shreds by a couple of women who work at shelters.