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BeardOfKnowledge

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I prefer Stephan Harper's position on these people. Bland looking broe would never have given Omar 10 million and this couple would be in jail.
He'd have given them, more. Yes, I'm serious and I'd have had no issue with the reason behind it.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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He let US have Omar which is why Trudeau gave him the 10 million.
Khadr was going to sue the government and he more than likely would have won based on the earlier supreme court rulings around his case. Typically the payout is in the 20-30 mil range. The Trudeau government settled for 10.5 to try to save some cash and keep it out of the public eye. Instead of giving the nation it's rightful due process.
 

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A spokesman for the Taliban is denying the allegations of a freed Canadian hostage who says his wife was raped and his daughter killed by their abductors.

Upon his return to Canada Friday, Joshua Boyle told reporters that during his five years in captivity, held by the Taliban-linked Haqqani network in Afghanistan, his wife's rape was assisted by the captain of the guard and supervised by the commandant of the network.

He said the Haqqani leadership authorized the murder of his daughter in retaliation for his refusal to accept an offer from the kidnappers, but did not elaborate.

However, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid has released a statement saying Caitlan Coleman had a "natural miscarriage" after an illness that couldn't be treated because they were in a remote area with no doctors.

Mujahid says Boyle and Coleman are now "in the hands of the enemy", and the statement Boyle gave was "force fed" to him.

Mujahid also says "from the time the couple were detained until their release" Boyle and Coleman were never separated because the kidnappers "did not want to incite any suspicion."

"No one has either intentionally murdered the child of this couple and neither has anyone violated or defiled them," Mujahid said in the statement, which was posted to the Taliban media unit's website.

Boyle told The Canadian Press Saturday that conditions during the five-year ordeal changed over time as the family was shuffled among at least three prisons.

He described the first as "remarkably barbaric," the second as more comfortable and the third as a place of violence in which he and his wife were frequently separated and beaten.
 

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I prefer Stephan Harper's position on these people. Bland looking broe would never have given Omar 10 million and this couple would be in jail.
Yup. And sure, it's true that it would have probably cost the government more and he probably would have won, but that extra 10-15 mil he might have got would have been well worth it to fight back against a cocksucker terrorist. Seeing our government just bend over for this piece of shit made me sick. What's an extra 10-15 mil to at least fight? It's a drop in the bucket for the federal government. Felt so embarrassed, and sad for the Speer family.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Yup. And sure, it's true that it would have probably cost the government more and he probably would have won, but that extra 10-15 mil he might have got would have been well worth it to fight back against a cocksucker terrorist. Seeing our government just bend over for this piece of shit made me sick. What's an extra 10-15 mil to at least fight? It's a drop in the bucket for the federal government. Felt so embarrassed, and sad for the Speer family.
Although I agree with your overall sentiment. Last I heard they don't even have proof that he was in the vicinity when the attack happened outside of the confession obtained through torture which would be inadmissible in a court of law.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Yup. And sure, it's true that it would have probably cost the government more and he probably would have won, but that extra 10-15 mil he might have got would have been well worth it to fight back against a cocksucker terrorist. Seeing our government just bend over for this piece of shit made me sick. What's an extra 10-15 mil to at least fight? It's a drop in the bucket for the federal government. Felt so embarrassed, and sad for the Speer family.

You're forgetting to add in the legal costs for the Canadian govt & tax payers. I have no clue what the legal fees could have been in a case like this but I think its safe to assume you could easily add a few more million onto that 15 million.
 

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Last I heard they don't even have proof that he was in the vicinity when the attack happened

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He was at the compound and shot in the chest, right? The same compound where guys were making IEDs and video tape of Omar doing so was found.

Isn't that in the vicinity?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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He was at the compound and shot in the chest, right? The same compound where guys were making IEDs and video tape of Omar doing so was found.

Isn't that in the vicinity?
Hanging out with terrorists, even making IED's doesn't mean you rolled a grenade into a tent that was occupied by an American medic. If memory serves the field report at the time indicated that they had killed the guy who had thrown the grenade. Make no mistake, Omar Khadr is a piece of trash, so is his entire family, but everyone deserves due process. Even terrorists.
 

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You're forgetting to add in the legal costs for the Canadian govt & tax payers. I have no clue what the legal fees could have been in a case like this but I think its safe to assume you could easily add a few more million onto that 15 million.
Yeah but again, what's a couple million to the federal government? They waste hundreds of millions on retarded shit, why not put a couple million into fighting a terrorist?
 

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Haqqani captors killed child, raped wife, Canadian ex-hostage says

Parents of freed US hostage furious with son-in-law for Afghanistan trip



This guy takes his pregnant wife to Afghanistan? Her parents think that he's just taken her on a backpacking trip.
Now that he's released he talks about how selfless he was in trying to bring aid to taliban-controlled villagers that no government or NGO is willing to help? What amount of Aid could two individuals, one pregnant, bring while backpacking?

And then it turns out that he brags about how "anything on Wikipedia about terrorism" he wrote. And got himself wrapped up with the kid that rolled a grenade into a soldier's tent threw a grenade at a soldier earlier this decade... And married that guys sister.

Then he initially refuses to get onto the airplane after being rescued because the airplane is headed to a USA base first. He wanted a direct flight from the random place he was rescued to Canada.

Oh and let's not forget how weird you have to be to impregnate your wife as often as possible (a baby a year basically) in taliban captivity. Once I'm raising one kid under a gun, maybe I could keep it in my pants at the risk of more kids literally knowing nothing more than being a Taliban prisoner. The kids are all going to be screwed.

The whole this is weird. This guys is nuts. And I think there's way more to this than any of the single surface stories.
My view on this is: this guy is a nutter, straight out weirdo, and a stupid ass, with the occasional epiphany.

I agree with you that he shouldn't bring his pregnant wife,to a dangerous place to "aid" or "help"

I just asked myself what would i do if i was locked up in a room with my wife for 5 years with nothing else at hand, i would probably fuck a bunch to brighten up my mood.

If i was a hostage for 5 years and had married and divorced a sister and daughter of known terrorists in the past, i would probably not get on a plane with USA on it.

All that being said i hope Canada will screen them thoroughly you never know what 5 years of indoctrination does to a human, and with him marrying that khadr girl, he does look like he has a few cards short of a full deck.
 

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Khadr was going to sue the government and he more than likely would have won based on the earlier supreme court rulings around his case. Typically the payout is in the 20-30 mil range. The Trudeau government settled for 10.5 to try to save some cash and keep it out of the public eye. Instead of giving the nation it's rightful due process.
Couldn't Harper have excellerated law change that suspected terrorists can't sue for allowing the government to hand people over to allied nations legal system? They wanted to change law to revoke citizenship of dual citizens suspected of terrorism.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Couldn't Harper have excellerated law change that suspected terrorists can't sue for allowing the government to hand people over to allied nations legal system? They wanted to change law to revoke citizenship of dual citizens suspected of terrorism.
If he really wanted to, he could have changed the law in an instant with his majority government. He chose not to, even if he had I'm not sure it would have made any difference as he wasn't found guilty of anything in a court of law. That whole situation was a complete disaster that's currently being used by the Conservatives (and rightfully so) for political capital.
 

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A spokesman for the Taliban is denying the allegations of a freed Canadian hostage who says his wife was raped and his daughter killed by their abductors.

Upon his return to Canada Friday, Joshua Boyle told reporters that during his five years in captivity, held by the Taliban-linked Haqqani network in Afghanistan, his wife's rape was assisted by the captain of the guard and supervised by the commandant of the network.

He said the Haqqani leadership authorized the murder of his daughter in retaliation for his refusal to accept an offer from the kidnappers, but did not elaborate.

However, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid has released a statement saying Caitlan Coleman had a "natural miscarriage" after an illness that couldn't be treated because they were in a remote area with no doctors.

Mujahid says Boyle and Coleman are now "in the hands of the enemy", and the statement Boyle gave was "force fed" to him.

Mujahid also says "from the time the couple were detained until their release" Boyle and Coleman were never separated because the kidnappers "did not want to incite any suspicion."

"No one has either intentionally murdered the child of this couple and neither has anyone violated or defiled them," Mujahid said in the statement, which was posted to the Taliban media unit's website.

Boyle told The Canadian Press Saturday that conditions during the five-year ordeal changed over time as the family was shuffled among at least three prisons.

He described the first as "remarkably barbaric," the second as more comfortable and the third as a place of violence in which he and his wife were frequently separated and beaten.
Wanted to post this.
When even the Taliban calls out your bullshit you really gotta wonder about that weirdo.
 

otaku1

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Hanging out with terrorists, even making IED's doesn't mean you rolled a grenade into a tent that was occupied by an American medic. If memory serves the field report at the time indicated that they had killed the guy who had thrown the grenade. Make no mistake, Omar Khadr is a piece of trash, so is his entire family, but everyone deserves due process. Even terrorists.
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Disagree bro.
I do recall reading that he did throw a grenade.
Then got shot.
Then when the GIs got a hold of him he started claiming his Canadian citizenship in true coward fashion.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Disagree bro.
I do recall reading that he did throw a grenade.
Then got shot.
Then when the GIs got a hold of him he started claiming his Canadian citizenship in true coward fashion.
The only admission of him throwing the grenade was in the kangaroo court where they extracted a confession from a guy who'd been held for 8 years.
 

otaku1

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The only admission of him throwing the grenade was in the kangaroo court where they extracted a confession from a guy who'd been held for 8 years.
Kangaroo court?
Sure 8 years.
Forced it out of him?
Sure Guantanamo is no club med

Still... don't think that the Canadian govt should have settled... now what? Every time a Canadian citizen goes on a jihad tour and gets caught, the government should take him/her out of jail? Nope.
You smuggled dope/stole/killed abroad and the govt wouldn't bulge. Or barely.
Now you go jihadi, kill, get arrested and should feel sorry for you, do everything to spare you the punishment you actually deserve?

I think the whole Khadr thing got media attention and 'pity coverage' because we got the child soldier angle brought up first and foremost... brushing aside the fact that he was a teenager at the time of his capture, who was surely well aware of what he was doing and had integrated his jihadist father values eg: destroy the west and fight the infidels. He hadn't rejected his dad values. I clearly remember him sporting a nice long Islamic beard during his trial. Make no mistake this is not a hipster beard, it's a strong symbol of Islamic faith.

It wasn't a coincidence if he was fresh shaven for his ulterior appearances. His lawyer surely told him to shave it for the press conferences.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Still... don't think that the Canadian govt should have settled... now what?
I've said from the outset they shouldn't have settled. My saying "Going to court would have cost them more" isn't the same as "They should have paid him because it would have cost us more" I'm a firm believer that "innocent until proven guilty" is the cornerstone on which our society is built. When you don't go to court and see things out you're doing the entire nation a disservice. This applies to both torturing people to get confessions and settling instead of going to trial when the claim is torture. I don't care what kind of piece of shit someone is, they're owed their day in court as it's guilt that needs to be proven, not innocence.
 

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Freed hostage Joshua Boyle on why he went to Afghanistan and what his kidnappers wanted
They are free and safe, but the scars from five years held hostage by a ruthless group linked to the Taliban run deep and raw.

Joshua Boyle, his wife, Caitlan Coleman, and their three children are now sheltered in Boyle's parents' home in Smiths Falls, Ont. In an interview on Sunday, Boyle described their kidnappers' apparent motives, the conditions of their confinement and the final moments of their rescue last Wednesday.

Boyle, a Canadian, and Coleman, a U.S. citizen, had been married just a year when they embarked on a backpacking tour of Central Asia in the summer and fall of 2012. Of his decision to go to Afghanistan, Boyle said he felt propelled by a sense of mission — to help people, "to fix things."

Coleman was pregnant with the couple's first child in October 2012. They had travelled to an Afghan village where they felt mostly safe except for the unwanted attentions of one man who targeted them.

They ended up in the hands of the Haqqani network, a militant group closely linked to the Taliban that is based in North Waziristan, a region of northwest Pakistan along the border with Afghanistan. The group, which was designated a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. in 2012, has a long and brutal record of kidnappings for financial and political gain.

Boyle said, after such a long time being held prisoner, he trusts no one.

He said he was interrogated many times. The first time, his captors wanted to know one thing before making their ransom demands: who was he working for?

Over the course of five years, now with young children, the family was moved between 23 different locations, sometimes stopping only for days. All of the places were within 50 kilometres of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, and they spent time in both countries.

Often, they were transferred in the trunk of a car and frequently drugged with the anesthetic ketamine. They were held in kuchi huts, abandoned homes, one-room underground dungeons or homes purpose-built for Haqqani guards.

Coleman has remained private since the family arrived back in Canada. Boyle told CBC News that his wife had been raped, an allegation he first made soon after touching down at Pearson airport in Toronto Friday.

In the interview with CBC, he clarified that his captors had forced an abortion, authorized at the highest levels of the Haqqani network. He vigorously dismissed Taliban claims on the weekend that he and Coleman were never separated.

Boyle described in the interview how last Wednesday, guards came for them and bundled the family into a car — parents in the trunk with their infant daughter, separated by a partition from their two boys, ages two and four respectively.

Boyle was given the news that they were going to be freed almost five years to the day of their capture. But as they approached a checkpoint in Pakistan, guards asked to open the trunk and the captors' car sped away with several vehicles in pursuit. A gun battle followed.

Boyle says he is deeply grateful for the Pakistani special forces who helped save him and his family.

"They really were amazing," he told CBC News.

His three children are now being showered with love at their grandparents' home in Smiths Falls, he said. Over the weekend, Boyle wrote to CBC that his youngest, Grace, is being cuddled by relatives, "discovering a half dozen new founts of love."

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Wife of former Canadian hostage Joshua Boyle rushed to hospital
Joshua Boyle, a Canadian who was rescued with his family last week by Pakistani troops, said Tuesday that his wife had to be rushed to the hospital and remains there.

Boyle told The Associated Press in an email that his wife, Caitlan Boyle, was admitted Monday. His email did not specify why she was taken to the hospital.

"My first concern has to be the health of my wife and children," Boyle wrote.

Boyle, his American wife and their three children were rescued Wednesday, five years after the couple was abducted in Afghanistan on a backpacking trip. Four children were born in captivity.

Joshua Boyle said after landing at Toronto's airport on Friday that the Taliban-linked Haqqani network killed an infant daughter and raped his wife during the years they were held.

In prior email exchange with AP, Boyle did not respond to a question about the fourth child but later told the CBC that it was a forced abortion. The Taliban said in a statement it was a miscarriage.

On Monday, Boyle told the AP that he and his wife decided to have children even while held captive because they always planned to have a big family and decided, "Hey, let's make the best of this and at least go home with a larger start on our dream family."

"We're sitting as hostages with a lot of time on our hands," Boyle told AP. "We always wanted as many as possible, and we didn't want to waste time. Cait's in her 30s, the clock is ticking."

Boyle said their three children are now 4, 2 and "somewhere around 6 months."

"Honestly we've always planned to have a family of 5, 10, 12 children ... We're Irish, haha," he wrote in an email.

The parents of Caitlan Boyle have said they are elated she is free, but also angry at their son-in law for taking their daughter to Afghanistan.

"Taking your pregnant wife to a very dangerous place, to me, and the kind of person I am, is unconscionable," Caitlan's father, Jim Coleman said, told ABC News.