White tells fighters to learn from Yair: If I offer you a fight, take it

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If Dana White is to be believed, Mexican rising star Yair Rodriguez “didn’t want to fight” and was released earlier in the month for turning down multiple offers to compete at UFC 227. The UFC president doubled up on these statements after last weekend’s event in Liverpool.

“We offered him fights, he turned down the fights. There was a lot more back and forth that went on with that. If you don’t want to fight, this isn’t the place to be,” White said (transcribed by Sherdog). “There’s plenty of places out there that will take Yair Rodriguez, and would love to have him, and would sign him, and I’m sure he’ll have a great career. This isn’t the place for you.”

The entertaining prospect has already shared his…


White tells fighters to learn from Yair Rodriguez: When I offer you a fight, you should probably take it
 
FrankieNYC

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I see both sides.
Fighters have the right to refuse any fight & any promotion has the right to get frustrated & release the fighter.
The fact that UFC released him is a positive for him, as long as they offer him fights they could have kept him under contract.
Now he can earn elsewhere.
 
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Can't blame White in this situation.

You have a guy who is turning down fights and trying to pick and choose his opponents, when he's coming off an embarrassing loss?

If he's this hard to deal with at this point in his career, just imagine how difficult he would be as a champion. So why continue with him?

I'm not a fan of Dana's tactics or the UFC's history of fucking fighters over, but there has to be give and take. If you're ducking fights left and right when you don't have any pull, why would the UFC continue to promote you? You can do that shit if you have a big name like Diaz brother maybe.
 
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FUCK DANA WHITE!!!! The day that his cocaine and steroid habit takes him out... Or when the teamsters give him the Hoffa treatment, that will be a glorious day for MMA. The more you hear former employees and fighters talk about him, the more you root for him to end up like Jamie Levine.... Fuck em
 
FrankieNYC

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karate chop! said:
Can't blame White in this situation.

You have a guy who is turning down fights and trying to pick and choose his opponents, when he's coming off an embarrassing loss?

If he's this hard to deal with at this point in his career, just imagine how difficult he would be as a champion. So why continue with him?

I'm not a fan of Dana's tactics or the UFC's history of fucking fighters over, but there has to be give and take. If you're ducking fights left and right when you don't have any pull, why would the UFC continue to promote you? You can do that shit if you have a big name like Diaz brother maybe.
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Dana is a dick, but he did right by him in this instance.
He could have kept him under contract but released him.
 
nuraknu

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Meh. Imo, he probably just released him because he was mad about the fakenews tweet, and it was as good an excuse as any to choose Yair as the sacrifice for the Leslie Smith lawsuit.
 
Robbie Hart

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You do what you’re told until you get to the point where they can’t tell you what to do
 
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I don’t think Dana knows what “offer” means.
If you’re going to order fighters around like employees, hire them like employees and pay them the benefits you owe them.
Dana you piece of shit.
 
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FrankieNYC said:
Dana is a dick, but he did right by him in this instance.
He could have kept him under contract but released him.
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Almost. If he would have released him, and kept his fucking mouth shut, he would have been in the right. 'We were renegotiating his contract, and we didn't see eye to eye. These things happen, we released him, and wish him the best of luck going forward with his career'. Something professional. But that's not Dana's style.

He's the guy who asks a girl out, gets rejected, then goes on a tirade about what a slut she is to try and protect his own who.
 
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While I'm bummed that Yair didn't take the fight with Zabit, they shouldn't expect fighters to take every fight they throw at them.

A rising contender SHOULD take on all comers in my book, but they have a right to turn down a fight for their own reasons.

I dunno, I'm sort of torn on the topic.

You don't want the case with Boxing where the fighters have TOO much say, but what the UFC does is the polar opposite extreme.
 
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TheEmperorRises said:
Almost. If he would have released him, and kept his fucking mouth shut, he would have been in the right. 'We were renegotiating his contract, and we didn't see eye to eye. These things happen, we released him, and wish him the best of luck going forward with his career'. Something professional. But that's not Dana's style.

He's the guy who asks a girl out, gets rejected, then goes on a tirade about what a slut she is to try and protect his own who.
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Like I said ... Dana is a dick
But if he legally offers him fights, he could have kept him & fucked with him a lot more by doing so.

But like nuraknu @nuraknu intelligently pointed out ...

nuraknu said:
it was as good an excuse as any to choose Yair as the sacrifice for the Leslie Smith lawsuit.
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Going public (even in DW's dick way of doing so) with "we released a fighter for turning down fights" certainly seems to have played a part in the Smith situation.
 
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Waves said:
While I'm bummed that Yair didn't take the fight with Zabit, they shouldn't expect fighters to take every fight they throw at them.

A rising contender SHOULD take on all comers in my book, but they have a right to turn down a fight for their own reasons.

I dunno, I'm sort of torn on the topic.

You don't want the case with Boxing where the fighters have TOO much say, but what the UFC does is the polar opposite extreme.
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There are a myriad of legit reasons why a fighter turns down a fight... Religious reasons (can't effectively train during Ramadan), Personal (family situations, death, etc), Medical (injuries they don't want to disclose to opponents that may give them a tactical advantage, procedures they need to get or are recovering from, etc), or they're out of training and won't have enough time to get into fight shape/cut weight/prepare for an opponent.

We discuss a lot how weight cuts are detrimental for fighters, so at times, when fighters are out of camps/competition, they won't beat up their bodies by cutting weight.... so if they aren't ready, you can't force them into bad cuts to fight.

There's also the risk/reward factor.... If I'm a fighter, possibly a little banged up (like ALL fighters are), and they offer me a low reward, high risk fight (a lower ranked guy, or a guy I've beaten in the past, etc).... knowing full well if I lose I can get cut, lose my position in title contention, or aggravate the injury I have leading to a poor showing.... What's my push to take this fight? Until the UFC takes care of fighters better, there is no reasons why guys shouldn't turn down fights at times. Remember, fighters are currently subcontracted brands working in under the UFC umbrella, they are looking to protect their brand for future big paydays.
 
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Rhino said:
There are a myriad of legit reasons why a fighter turns down a fight... Religious reasons (can't effectively train during Ramadan), Personal (family situations, death, etc), Medical (injuries they don't want to disclose to opponents that may give them a tactical advantage, procedures they need to get or are recovering from, etc), or they're out of training and won't have enough time to get into fight shape/cut weight/prepare for an opponent.

We discuss a lot how weight cuts are detrimental for fighters, so at times, when fighters are out of camps/competition, they won't beat up their bodies by cutting weight.... so if they aren't ready, you can't force them into bad cuts to fight.

There's also the risk/reward factor.... If I'm a fighter, possibly a little banged up (like ALL fighters are), and they offer me a low reward, high risk fight (a lower ranked guy, or a guy I've beaten in the past, etc).... knowing full well if I lose I can get cut, lose my position in title contention, or aggravate the injury I have leading to a poor showing.... What's my push to take this fight? Until the UFC takes care of fighters better, there is no reasons why guys shouldn't turn down fights at times. Remember, fighters are currently subcontracted brands working in under the UFC umbrella, they are looking to protect their brand for future big paydays.
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Well said.
 
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FrankieNYC said:
In November he agreed to terms to fight Ferguson & then reneged & asked for more money.
It was around the time of the Bellator incident.

But technically, he had to reject 2-3 fights per contracted year.
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Conor doesn't reject fights, brah. Fuck off with your facts
 
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