Such a fallacy. Only three women in the Rizin GP were from Asia. Meanwhile, Invicta and KOTC both have divisions with no crrent roster members hailing from Asia.
Im not quite sure what your argument was there.
I said (the part you highlighter) "Why would all the top asian fighters (who are responsible for the bulk of the 105 ranked fighters) want to fight in the UFC"
and you replied "Such a fallacy. , Invicta and KOTC both have divisions with no crrent roster members hailing from Asia"
Im not sure what your argument is, you seem to be agreeing with me that not many of the top asian talent at 105 has any interest in coming to fight for a US promotion such as the UFC but you helpfully add Invicta and KOTC to it for me
And the bulk of the top ranked fighters at 105 ARE asian..
Who is the top ten in the world?
Asian
Seo Hee Ham (Road)
Aya Hamasaki (Rizin)
Mina Kurobe (Rizin)
Tomo Maesawa (Deep Jewels)
Aono Hikaru (Deep Jewels)
Kana Asakura (Rizin)
Rena Kubota (Rizin)
Non-Asian
Minna Grusander (Invicta)
Jinh Yu Frey (Invicta)
Amber Brown (Invicta)
Sure, you might disagree slightly, im probably being generous to Rena, but on teh whole, the bulk of the top fighters at 105 are Asian and are fighting for Asian promotions.
hell, the best American based fighting in Jinh Yu ended up going to Asia to fight for the belt (before being gifted one in the US)
Fighter wins using nothing but wall and stall: "AAARgh, damn wall and stall. Judges judge it too highly."
Fighter does nothing but wall and stall and loses: "AAARGH! Robbery!"
Pretty much every forum user. So, what's your view on the Alvarez v Pettis fight, out of curiosity?
Where the hell did I say anything about wall and stall?
I raised three points:
1. Favourable matchmaking - nobody can deny this, but its not just limited to Invicta, all the other feeder promotions do it, Legacy are probably even worse at handing out favourable matchups. dont get me started on Legacy giving KGB title shots against girls on losing streaks
2. Shocking refereeing - So you dont remember a fighter being completely unconscious and going on to win the fight? What about making a fighter change position so that she then gets subbed and loses a world title? You dont remember the countless other refereeing fiascos that have come out of Missouri with Mike England leading the charge?
3. Calamitous judging - Are you seriously claiming that Jinh Yu Frey beat Minna? Are you really going to try and argue that? You disagree with every single media member who watched that fight and 95% of people on MMADecisions?
Look, I get it, you are trying to get into the media side of things and I fully support you, I really hope you do great and it works out for you, and so I understand why you dont want to agree with the three points I raised, you arent going to openly come out and say Invicta is a shit show, I get that
.
But don't completely ignore them and try and dismiss them as something about "wall n stall" (I got to be honest, i don't even know what you are on about there, Ive no idea what Alvarez v Pettis has to do with any of this).
I love the womens sport, with a passion, but Im finding less and less time to watch Invicta because of the three reasons above (and because there are better matches out there to watch)
fwiw, I didnt watch Alvarez v Pettis. Being in the UK, 5-6am finishes are only for me if the main card is fighters I am interested in watching. This generally will mean the heavier mens divisions, featherweight, and yes, womens divisions. the combination of Dominick Cruz headlining (who i cannot stand), Travis Browne (who I cannot stand) meant that I stayed up to watch Ross Pearson (Who lives about 20 miles from me) and then went to bed.
So I couldnt give you an opinion on Alvarez Pettis Im afraid.
I also stand by my final point. The UFC have done a shocking job with the womens divisions. One division has no champion after a year, another division has a champion and no challengers. the other two divisions see the girls having to beg on twitter to even get fights and most are only fighting once a year, twice if they are very lucky. Even though Shelby was allegedly always in charge of the lighter (and womens) divisions, nobody will argue that the matchmaking across those divisions has gone to utter shite since Joe Silva left. Clearly Joe oversaw what Sean was doing.
Bellator are doing a reasonable job in building their 145 division, at least they have fighters. They are making inroads at 125 as well but obviously the UFC will always draw the name talent.
Why in gods name anyone who is a fan of womens MMA would want the UFC to start a 105 division, knowing in all likelehood they will utterly fuck it up as they have done the other womens divisions, I dont know.
If you love womens MMA support the smaller girls leaving the UFC and making money in Asia where the organisations will promote and support them, support Bellator building the 145lb division (and i really hope cyborrg is able to leave the UFC when her contract ends in the new year and head to Bellator).