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That card does 200-300k. You would have Cyborg-Nunes as the main event anyway as that would draw more than Gus-Anderson. With Jones on there it could do 600-800k. That's a big difference.

WME clearly is still under pressure with loan repayments, hence why we see desperate moves like this.
I'm not sure its pressure. I think they just don't give a shit about MMA

None of them are even going to be at the event. Hell they have probably forgotten about it already
 

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I'm not sure its pressure. I think they just don't give a shit about MMA

None of them are even going to be at the event. Hell they have probably forgotten about it already
Danus and co, not their bosses. Bosses simply demand that certain revenue targets are hit, and their underlings have to scramble to meet them. I'm sure Ari would be kept in the loop about what's going on with Jones too. Jones is the 2nd biggest star in the company.
 

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Self-serving but 100% accurate. USADA has shown its hand - there are 3 options here: 1) they are corrupt, 2) their entire system is based on junk science and arbitrary nonsense or 3) both of the above (this is the correct answer). There is no possible way to argue for a 4th option.
 

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That card does 200-300k. You would have Cyborg-Nunes as the main event anyway as that would draw more than Gus-Anderson. With Jones on there it could do 600-800k. That's a big difference.

WME clearly is still under pressure with loan repayments, hence why we see desperate moves like this.
Oh I have no doubt it’s about money (although 800k seems like rather a stretch). Is the blow to their credibility really worth this though? They’ve never straight up given a pass for a blown drug test before, and the only time I’ve heard Dana White or anyone even defend someone at all over a failed test was for marijuana. Now they’ve not only given a pass, but commission shopped 6 days before the fight and adversely affected the 23 other fighters on the card, their corners, and thousands of fans who bought tickets and made plans to come to Vegas between Christmas and New Years.

I also thought they were past the point of built-in financial incentives from their lenders for fast loan repayments but I could totally be wrong on that. Either way, WME is a clown show.
 

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Jon was framed. He's been exonerated and the fights still going ahead. I don't know what u gayboys are pissy about
 

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If joe doesn’t go hard at the snitch and ask about Lawlor, Mir and the potential for lawsuits and liability it’ll be fully apparent that the UFC paid him off.
 

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If joe doesn’t go hard at the snitch and ask about Lawlor, Mir and the potential for lawsuits and liability it’ll be fully apparent that the UFC paid him off.
I thought it was already obvious that the UFC pays them both? I doubt Joe will get into anything uncomfortable, though I'm sure Joe is honestly thinking Jeff's word is good enough, which we should all know by now is complete and utter BS.
 

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Oh I have no doubt it’s about money (although 800k seems like rather a stretch). Is the blow to their credibility really worth this though? They’ve never straight up given a pass for a blown drug test before, and the only time I’ve heard Dana White or anyone even defend someone at all over a failed test was for marijuana. Now they’ve not only given a pass, but commission shopped 6 days before the fight and adversely affected the 23 other fighters on the card, their corners, and thousands of fans who bought tickets and made plans to come to Vegas between Christmas and New Years.

I also thought they were past the point of built-in financial incentives from their lenders for fast loan repayments but I could totally be wrong on that. Either way, WME is a clown show.
You might be right about the loan as I don't know the current status. I am using circular logic - WME doing desperate shit must be because they are desperate - but the 'retard hypothesis' - WME do retarded shit because they are retarded - is an equally valid guess.

The UFC is insulated from credibility issues by virtue of having none in the first place. USADA is the interesting one for me - is whatever's in those brown paper bags really worth completely trashing its reputation?
 

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If joe doesn’t go hard at the snitch and ask about Lawlor, Mir and the potential for lawsuits and liability it’ll be fully apparent that the UFC paid him off.
Joe was paid off a long time ago regarding Juicy
Painfully obvious
He claims to have this great bullshit detector...
Yet has repeatedly believed and pushed a narrative of Coke Cut with Creatine Tainted with T-bol, gas station dick pills(Pills had 3 substances and jones only tested for 2, yet joe never even mentions this inconsistency and only says "Jon is a wild guy")...usually finishes the conversation with "I believe Jon"

and yet in the next sentence will speculate about Fedor and others most likely being on PEDs

He has lost all credibility as far as that goes and it is rather sad

It will be a spin/propaganda episode if he has that snitching fuck on there...if he really wanted to learn something he would have Conte or some 3rd party mind in to discuss the issues

I listened to the Podcast about Balco that BeardOfKnowledge @ConorMcGregorsBeard sugggested, Golden Snitch is a POS of the highest level and what he is doing now only furthers that point...Not a single drop of Honor in that "man'
 
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It’s really unbelievable. I joke about now being able to go to the event but it’s pathetic and I almost feel dirty wanting to go. This was my fear basically happening at ufc 230 in Nyc. I feel terrible for the thousands of fans getting completely fucked by this decision.
I don’t think you should go, bruv.
 

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What I don’t understand is why not just move the Jones fight to headline 233? Cyborg vs Nunes with rest of card was plenty solid and Jones/Gus likely does most possible damage to Bellator Fedor/Bader
immediate payoff maybe? Dana is WME bitch now instead of Lorenzo's Bitch

and if they move that then they have to give the reason or have Jon fake injury and then the truth and speculation begins anyways...they are insulting our intelligence for monetary gain and it is just that simple
 

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‘‘Tis dude tested positive for 1 picogram (compared to Jones 60) and got a 20 game suspension.

Golden Knights' Nate Schmidt suspended 20 games for PEDs | CBC Sports

Check out this quote.

The 27-year-old Schmidt said an expert in environmental contamination who testified on his behalf at the appeal hearing likened the amount of the banned substance to a pinch of salt in an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

I wonder if he’s repped by WME and who his ‘expert’ was....