Jon Jones pisses hot, AGAIN

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delightone

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Don't care, loved the fight all i need is to see him fight as soon as possible, Aaron PICOgrams or not.
 
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Ridiculous. 33 fucking picograms. THAT'S NOTHING, GUYS.

Jon is fighting at UFC 235 and there isn't a god damn thing any of you can do about it.
 

KWingJitsu

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Let's say he is 'guilty'.... could someone whose panties are in a bunch explain why they think this is so?

Doesn't this actually prove what was said - i.e. these are trace long-term metabolites and would still show up long-term?

Y'all should be more suspicious if the tests actually came back clean......
 

Sheepdog

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Let's say he is 'guilty'.... could someone whose panties are in a bunch explain why they think this is so?

Doesn't this actually prove what was said - i.e. these are trace long-term metabolites and would still show up long-term?

Y'all should be more suspicious if the tests actually came back clean......
What are you talking about? The subsequent tests did come back clean.

Nothing has been 'proven' at all. That's the issue. There is no way to rule out a 'pulsing' effect or a re-ingestion.
 

Papi Chingon

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What are you talking about? The subsequent tests did come back clean.

Nothing has been 'proven' at all. That's the issue. There is no way to rule out a 'pulsing' effect or a re-ingestion.
There is no way to prove anything he has been found guilty of. That's the beauty. The cherry on top is the "pulsing that could last a lifetime." Love it! May have some more sir?
 

kneeblock

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Has there been even one scientific journal cited that says a pulsing effect of turinabol metabolites is even possible? If so, does anyone have a link?
 

Filthy

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Let's say he is 'guilty'.... could someone whose panties are in a bunch explain why they think this is so?

Doesn't this actually prove what was said - i.e. these are trace long-term metabolites and would still show up long-term?

Y'all should be more suspicious if the tests actually came back clean......
except that there's no data from when the short term metabolites would have been present, because USADA wasn't testing JBJ.
And to be clear, there's no 'it's only a couple picograms' in the USADA/UFC testing deal.

Clean is clean. Dirty is dirty. JBJ is dirty.
 

Splinty

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Has there been even one scientific journal cited that says a pulsing effect of turinabol metabolites is even possible? If so, does anyone have a link?
There is not.
Which is what makes not testing Jones for a year, then hanging their hat on this so egregious.

There is only one correct response after the lack of testing. He should be tested at consistent intervals by the same lab in the same scenarios as long as he is fighting.

The entire system requires this to have any continued fidelity.

Could be that Jon was doping while he was off (known evidence and literature supports this). Could be an unknown pulsing effect that they are failing to retrospectively study.
 

Yossarian

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If this makes him not guilty, then there is no need in testing him again, or anyone for that matter. I'm all for the roids, but let them all do it, not just Juicy Jones. He's still a piece of shit with a tattered legacy. That at least, hasn't changed.
 

RaginCajun

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Oct 25, 2015
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I wonder if the UFC is pulling all this BS to set up a excuse for Lesnar's return. I can't imagine that juicy Jones is worth throwing away all there credibility if there is no end game.
 

Sheepdog

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I wonder if the UFC is pulling all this BS to set up a excuse for Lesnar's return. I can't imagine that juicy Jones is worth throwing away all there credibility if there is no end game.
The UFC has never had credibility and yes Jones is worth it. He's the biggest active star in the UFC, with no certainty that Conor or Lesnar are coming back any time soon.
 

RaginCajun

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Oct 25, 2015
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The UFC has never had credibility and yes Jones is worth it. He's the biggest active star in the UFC, with no certainty that Conor or Lesnar are coming back any time soon.
Considering his past behavior and only having one legit win in 2 years, he seems like the wrong horse to back.
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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I'm so confused... he's pissing hot or what? which samples are valid or not?

i'm just