Boxers who would've whipped floyd?

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Prince Naseem would have seriously tested him. Not the Prince that lost to Barrera. A young hungry (not appetite) prince could have got the job done.

Man, Prince Naseem, I used to love watching him fight. Too much fame and money was his downfall. He could have been an all time great, rather than a humble Hall of Famer.
 

Filthy

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Prince Naseem would have seriously tested him. Not the Prince that lost to Barrera. A young hungry (not appetite) prince could have got the job done.

Man, Prince Naseem, I used to love watching him fight. Too much fame and money was his downfall. He could have been an all time great, rather than a humble Hall of Famer.
He was really over-rated.
Really really really over-rated
 

Haulport

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Prince Naseem would have seriously tested him. Not the Prince that lost to Barrera. A young hungry (not appetite) prince could have got the job done.

Man, Prince Naseem, I used to love watching him fight. Too much fame and money was his downfall. He could have been an all time great, rather than a humble Hall of Famer.
The Prince was hot garbage.

He was definitely ahead of his time though!

If he had been around now with our bottom feeder, social media culture of being rewarded for being a dirtbag, he could have hand picked his opponents, dodged dangerous ones like Barrera until they started falling apart and he'd be as rich as "Money" Mayweather and people would be saying he was an all-time great!!!!!!!!!!

Those pics would make a mighty fine Instagram page!!!!!
Nahmsayin' son????







 

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Prime Pernell Whitacker would have made for an interesting chess match at lightweight. Same can be said for Willie Pep. Prime Chavez would have been a good test. At welterweight both Sugar Ray's, Hearns and Duran. Hell. I'll even throw in a prime Manny at either of those weight classes.........that fiasco we witnessed a few years ago was no reflection on the healthy Manny Pacquiao we've seen in so many exciting wars during the previous years. I'm not saying all of these guys could have beaten Floyd, but I'd wager to say 50% of them would come away with the win. Floyd's not the GOAT! Not in my opinion anyway.
 

Coast

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He was really over-rated.
Really really really over-rated
I don't see how he was overrated. He literally demolished everyone he fought, many of whom were champions or ex champions. I grew up watching boxing in the late 80's and 90's, the Prince was by far my favourite fighter.

The Prince was hot garbage.

He was definitely ahead of his time though!

If he had been around now with our bottom feeder, social media culture of being rewarded for being a dirtbag, he could have hand picked his opponents, dodged dangerous ones like Barrera until they started falling apart and he'd be as rich as "Money" Mayweather and people would be saying he was an all-time great!!!!!!!!!!

Those pics would make a mighty fine Instagram page!!!!!
Nahmsayin' son????
He was ahead of his time, and he actually made a lot of money, at the time the money he was making was unheard of for a young featherweight.

But money would be his downfall, towards the end of his career he had problems motivating himself, something confirmed by both his trainers (Brendan Ingle and Emanuel Steward) when they said he often misses days and leaves early the days he does turn up. Then he had his weight issues, he was 40 pounds overweight just a month out from the Barrera and had major problems making the cut.

Sure Naz lost, but it wasn't the Naz of old. As good as Barrera was, a half trained, unmotivated, drained Naz took him the distance, took some rounds and made Barrera so frustrated he was very lucky to not have been DQ'd, when he rammed his head into the top turn buckle like something out of the WWE.
 
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Filthy

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I don't see how he was overrated. He literally demolished everyone he fought, many of whom were champions or ex champions. I grew up watching boxing in the late 80's and 90's, the Prince was by far my favourite fighter.



He was ahead of his time, and he actually made a lot of money, at the time the money he was making was unheard of for a young featherweight.

But money would be his downfall, towards the end of his career he had problems motivating himself, something confirmed by both his trainers (Brendan Ingle and Emanuel Steward) when they said he often misses days and leaves early the days he does turn up. Then he had his weight issues, he was 40 pounds overweight just a month out from the Barrera and had major problems making the cut.

Sure Naz lost, but it wasn't the Naz of old. As good as Barrera was, a half trained, unmotivated, drained Naz took him the distance, took some rounds and made Barrera so frustrated he was very lucky to not have been DQ'd, when he rammed his head into the top turn buckle like something out of the WWE.
He was well-managed, and I think that's a rather gilded assessment of the Barrera fight.
But I get the same way about RJJ or Larry Holmes, so I'm not judging. :cheers:
 

Coast

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He was well-managed, and I think that's a rather gilded assessment of the Barrera fight.
But I get the same way about RJJ or Larry Holmes, so I'm not judging. :cheers:
Well everything I said there was true. But to be clear I'm not saying the Naz of old would have won, if Naz had trouble with a particular type of fighter it was the defensive oriented type. But the Naz that fought Barrera was not his usual self, in fact he hadn't been his usual self since switching camps to Manny Stewart (who tried to improve on his defence).

Naz had every god given attribute required to be the GOAT, speed, accuracy, solid chin, heart and arguably the hardest hitting featherweight ever. But he squandered it all, for rich living. He retired before even reaching his physical prime, ultimately we never got to see the best of him.

 

Filthy

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Sanchez would've put Naseem away if not for some ridiculous officiating.

and if Barrera 'could' have been DQed in Hamed's fight, Hamed should have been DQed 2 or 3 times in the Soto fight.
 

Coast

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Sanchez would've put Naseem away if not for some ridiculous officiating.

and if Barrera 'could' have been DQed in Hamed's fight, Hamed should have been DQed 2 or 3 times in the Soto fight.
I'll concede that, Hamed was lucky not to have been DQ'd for the slam.

Not sure what the controversy was with Sanchez though. The way I remember it (and I only remember because I know Sanchez had beaten Mayweather as an amateur), Sanchez was carried out the ring on stretcher after being brutally KO'd. Sanchez had a knockdown that wasn't ruled a knockdown by the ref, but regardless, Naz was more off balance than anything else and got right back up.
 

Filthy

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I'll concede that, Hamed was lucky not to have been DQ'd for the slam.

Not sure what the controversy was with Sanchez though. The way I remember it (and I only remember because I know Sanchez had beaten Mayweather as an amateur), Sanchez was carried out the ring on stretcher after being brutally KO'd. Sanchez had a knockdown that wasn't ruled a knockdown by the ref, but regardless, Naz was more off balance than anything else and got right back up.
there were two knockdowns that weren't scored. The first one is the infamous one because it bloodied Hamed's nose. Worse was when Naseem landed a power left on the break, which turned the tide of the fight.

And the ref didn't count Sanchez down on two prior knockdowns, which led to the brutal KO. Even during the fight, the announcers went from "He's a no BS ref" to "I don't know WTF he's doing in there" between the opening bell and the last shot.
 

Haulport

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I don't see how he was overrated. He literally demolished everyone he fought, many of whom were champions or ex champions. I grew up watching boxing in the late 80's and 90's, the Prince was by far my favourite fighter.



He was ahead of his time, and he actually made a lot of money, at the time the money he was making was unheard of for a young featherweight.

But money would be his downfall, towards the end of his career he had problems motivating himself, something confirmed by both his trainers (Brendan Ingle and Emanuel Steward) when they said he often misses days and leaves early the days he does turn up. Then he had his weight issues, he was 40 pounds overweight just a month out from the Barrera and had major problems making the cut.

Sure Naz lost, but it wasn't the Naz of old. As good as Barrera was, a half trained, unmotivated, drained Naz took him the distance, took some rounds and made Barrera so frustrated he was very lucky to not have been DQ'd, when he rammed his head into the top turn buckle like something out of the WWE.
Wildly optimistuc statements about The Prince. I watch every televised fight of his. He fucking sucked balls but was flashy and had power and as soon as he started fighting anyone who was any good and not a hundred and seventy-five years old he looked like shit and that's when he suddenly stopped becoming motivated. The minute he had to actually dig down and do push instead of hop around and knockout someone who is way out of their league he started getting fat and stopped training......