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Conor McGregor shouldn’t get his hopes up in regards to owning a stake in the UFC anytime soon, according to Dana White.

White, the UFC president, said in an interview with TMZ on Tuesday that it is unlikely he will ever give the Irishman a stake of the company. White said McGregor asked him about the possibility of that via text two weeks ago, but that they have never talked about it in person.

“Conor has never come out, sat down with me, and said, ‘I want a piece of the company, here’s why,’” White said. “We’ve never had that conversation. We did it in text two weeks ago.

“He said, ‘I feel like I should own a piece of the company.’ And I said,…


Dana White says Conor McGregor will never get a stake in UFC
 

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I've been a big Conor fan since he first joined the organization, but holy fuck have things gone to shit with him since the Mayweather money. The lustre is lost!
 

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I've been a big Conor fan since he first joined the organization, but holy fuck have things gone to shit with him since the Mayweather money. The lustre is lost!
That and the success of Proper 12. I imagine it’s tough to stay focused on getting punched in the face with that kind of money and power.
 

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Should have created a shell corporation with a hidden owner and made an offer.
 
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Is Proper 12 doing well? I’ve mostly seen people online shitting on it?
Time will tell. The initial buzz is still riding strong but if it
is actually cheap whiskey I'd bet over time the novelty wears
off.

Especially if he stops fighting and loses this case.

He's going to be shocked how fast people turn on him and forget about him
 

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Is Proper 12 doing well? I’ve mostly seen people online shitting on it?
No decent pubs are stocking it in Ireland anyway, over priced shite, watered down, full of vanilla extract.

If its doing well it is state side, although its shit makes sense with the size of the market, plenty of gobshites to buy it that don't know any better.
 
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No decent pubs are stocking it in Ireland anyway, over priced shite, watered down, full of vanilla extract.

If its doing well it is state side, although its shit makes sense with the size of the market, plenty of gobshites to buy it that don't know any better.
It's 3-year whiskey so you can't expect much.

I haven't tried it but from what I've heard it's nowhere near Jameson level.
 

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It's 3-year whiskey so you can't expect much.

I haven't tried it but from what I've heard it's nowhere near Jameson level.
No, not really, but he is marketing it like its something it isn't, no surprise there, fake it to make it has been his mantra since day 1.

For bottom shelf Jameson is alright, its whiskey you'd mix. I drink it sometimes, even on ice its like water but not as bad as McGregors stuff, really is piss.

Long term I doubt it will keep up with the other bottom shelf brands coming out of here, even its daddy, Bushmills, but he can market it to a different demographic and he can sell, especially in the states.
 
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No, not really, but he is marketing it like its something it isn't, no surprise there, fake it to make it has been his mantra since day 1.

For bottom shelf Jameson is alright, its whiskey you'd mix. I drink it sometimes, even on ice its like water but not as bad as McGregors stuff, really is piss.

Long term I doubt it will keep up with the other bottom shelf brands coming out of here, even its daddy, Bushmills, but he can market it to a different demographic and he can sell, especially in the states.
Yeah the market is literally 80x the size of Ireland and people will buy anything here if a famous person is selling it.

And he's a huge star here. I mean huge. Obviously our domestic athletes are the biggest stars but I would say he's the most popular foreign athlete/sports star but I imagine at least half the country thinks he's an American citizen.
 

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Yeah the market is literally 80x the size of Ireland and people will buy anything here if a famous person is selling it.

And he's a huge star here. I mean huge. Obviously our domestic athletes are the biggest stars but I would say he's the most popular foreign athlete/sports star but I imagine at least half the country thinks he's an American citizen.
Yeah giant market, he plays the plastic paddy angle well, but he is also perpetrating negative stereotypes, which is shit.

It works for him, fair enough, but it is not a good look for my country, we have a disrespectful, loud mouth, drunk, coked up, clown act as the most well known Irish sports personallity.

One that quits when the going gets tough,
that is the opposite of the Irish mentallity, especially in combat sports.

Its not good at all, a national embarrasment to be honest.
 

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Time will tell. The initial buzz is still riding strong but if it
is actually cheap whiskey I'd bet over time the novelty wears
off.

Especially if he stops fighting and loses this case.

He's going to be shocked how fast people turn on him and forget about him
Pretty much this, most people here have already turned on him a long time ago, he cashed in a lot of the idiot fans with the Mayweather fight.

The amount of dipshits that were expecting him to win and by KO a lot of the time, was unbelievable, most of them fairly vocal as well. That burns the average casual retard, they know they got duped.

He has been acting the cunt here a fair bit as well, this latest accusation is another level though, sad part is it was believable from the get go, the guy is off the rails a while now.
 
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Pretty much this, most people here have already turned on him a long time ago, he cashed in a lot of the idiot fans with the Mayweather fight.

The amount of dipshits that were expecting him to win and by KO a lot of the time, was unbelievable, most of them fairly vocal as well. That burns the average casual retard, they know they got duped.

He has been acting the cunt here a fair bit as well, this latest accusation is another level though, sad part is it was believable from the get go, the guy is off the rails a while now.
I agree.

I think this is a classic case of the authorities never really punishing him
and giving him the impression that he can do whatever he wants without
consequences.

This will either bite him in the ass big time or he'll get away with it
and become even more of an ass
 
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It's 3-year whiskey so you can't expect much.

I haven't tried it but from what I've heard it's nowhere near Jameson level.
I heard the same from a buddy of mine that is very much into whiskey

Said it was filled with vanilla extract and not well made.

Which is very surprising. Conor seems like the type that would
want his name on the very best. I find it odd that people are saying
it isn't a quality whiskey.

I'm not much of a drinker so I wouldn't even know the difference though
 
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Conor McGregor shouldn’t get his hopes up in regards to owning a stake in the UFC anytime soon, according to Dana White.

White, the UFC president, said in an interview with TMZ on Tuesday that it is unlikely he will ever give the Irishman a stake of the company. White said McGregor asked him about the possibility of that via text two weeks ago, but that they have never talked about it in person.

“Conor has never come out, sat down with me, and said, ‘I want a piece of the company, here’s why,’” White said. “We’ve never had that conversation. We did it in text two weeks ago.

“He said, ‘I feel like I should own a piece of the company.’ And I said,…


Dana White says Conor McGregor will never get a stake in UFC
WME gives zero fucks about any fighter. They aren't going to give into anyone

Last time WME showed any real love to a fighter was Honda and they
see how that worked out for them.

If Conor aint gettin a piece of the pie then no fighter ever will

That said... For all Conor's faults you can't sit here with a straight
face and say that man doesn't 1000% deserve some equity in the
company

I'm actually surprised by this stance from Egg
 
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That said... For all Conor's faults you can't sit here with a straight
face and say that man doesn't 1000% deserve some equity in the
company
I certainly can & every financial person that covers MMA can

Conor has never been worth less to UFC than now.

Not a slam on him, but truth.

I don't get the "deserves" ownership thing.
Jeter did not deserve ownership of the Yankees, he was paid a shitload to perform (like Conor)
 
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I certainly can & every financial person that covers MMA can

Conor has never been worth less to UFC than now.

Not a slam on him, but truth.

I don't get the "deserves" ownership thing.
Jeter did not deserve ownership of the Yankees, he was paid a shitload to perform (like Conor)
You don't think Conor, Ronda, GSP or Silva deserve any ownership?

I'd argue that without Conor or Ronda that billion dollar deal would
not have went down the way it did. Nor the Fox deal

I'd say at minimum they deserve some equity.

Jeter I don't think is a fair comparison nor baseball in general

Baseball was already "Americas past time" long before Jeter

Jeter was not to baseball as Ronda or Conor was to the UFC.

They literally put the entire sport on their backs and carried it across the finish line

Jeter did not do that for baseball... It had already been done

They did far more to build the UFC then these executive clowns that reaped
all the rewards

Especially that dumb ass from Budweiser

"Be yourself... Be Conor McGregor". Clueless and largely useless

On current Conor... Yeah I agree. He ain't much help right now

On "deserves equity"... I work in the hedgefund and private equity
world. If I manage a fund and I'm the catalyst for a giant multimilliondollar
deal I'm getting equity in the deal and piece of the action.

You can't slap some tiny fraction of the deal in salary on a hedgefund
manager and expect him to continue to make you millions.

That aint the way the real financial world works... Only the UFC works that way
cuz they fuck over all their fighters
 
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You don't think Conor, Ronda, GSP or Silva deserve any ownership?

I'd argue that without Conor or Ronda that billion dollar deal would
not have went down the way it did. Nor the Fox deal

I'd say at minimum they deserve some equity.

They did far more to build the UFC then these executive clowns

Especially that dumb ass from Budweiser

"Be yourself... Be Conor McGregor". Clueless and largely useless

They absolutely don't deserve any ownership
they were paid for their fights.
You can argue they could have been paid more, but they agreed to the compensation & in Conor's case record breaking compensation

It goes both ways
Because of the UFC, Conor made a reported $100m from Boxing & because of the UFC, Ronda has a career after MMA.

1% of UFC is worth $70 million.
Neither deserves anything near that as a gift.

I get being anti-corporate & UFC mainly bc of DW plays into people looking at them negatively, but Conor/Ronda got a shitload out of UFC & the reverse is true.

If Conor was not a P.R. nightmare & was doing something to earn a position, that could be discussed, but as of now he doesn't deserve anything.

He is by far the most popular MM fighter ever.
He was paid by far the most of any fighter ever

The owners (not just WME) behind UFC are very powerful people.
The reason UFC went up in value during less interest was due to their business acumen.
Fertitta's made less off of more.
So hate them all you want (if you do) but they made deals that made UFC go up in value 75% during a time when interest was low.

If anybody owes anybody anything, its Fertitta's owing Conor & Ronda from their billions (they don't but Lorenzo could have bought Conor a car or something lol)

Funny thing, but the truth is, UFC/WME could have stopped Ronda from going to WWE unless they took a cut.
But they didn't.
She still owes UFC fights & WWE is a non compete.

PS ... always enjoy our back/forth even if we disagree man
 
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They absolutely don't deserve any ownership
they were paid for their fights.
You can argue they could have been paid more, but they agreed to the compensation & in Conor's case record breaking compensation

It goes both ways
Because of the UFC, Conor made a reported $100m from Boxing & because of the UFC, Ronda has a career after MMA.

1% of UFC is worth $70 million.
Neither deserves anything near that as a gift.

I get being anti-corporate & UFC mainly bc of DW plays into people looking at them negatively, but Conor/Ronda got a shitload out of UFC & the reverse is true.

If Conor was not a P.R. nightmare & was doing something to earn a position, that could be discussed, but as of now he doesn't deserve anything.

He is by far the most popular MM fighter ever.
He was paid by far the most of any fighter ever

The owners (not just WME) behind UFC are very powerful people.
The reason UFC went up in value during less interest was due to their business acumen.
Fertitta's made less off of more.
So hate them all you want (if you do) but they made deals that made UFC go up in value 75% during a time when interest was low.

If anybody owes anybody anything, its Fertitta's owing Conor & Ronda from their billions (they don't but Lorenzo could have bought Conor a car or something lol)

Funny thing, but the truth is, UFC/WME could have stopped Ronda from going to WWE unless they took a cut.
But they didn't.
She still owes UFC fights & WWE is a non compete.

PS ... always enjoy our back/forth even if we disagree man
I hear ya...

I'm not Anti Corporate. I'm about as corporate as it gets
which is why I see this as unfair.

In the real corporate world we are given equity in the successes we create.

My last large deal I helped a team of Quants break their algorithm
on a huge spread trading platform. My contract is a set amount.

But because I was the person to break the algo and enable them to raise
50 million I got equity in the deal. Paying me a few 100K (my contracted pay)
for what I created would have been bullshit.

No fund manager would put up with that non sense

The real corporate world does not work by paying people a tiny fraction of the equity
they create.

Only the UFC works that way

Giving your top people equity in what they helped build is literally how
you develop your future executives and partners.

I'd agree the Fertitas owe Conor. Hell they owe all the fighters
more then what they got
 
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I hear ya...

I'm not Anti Corporate. I'm about as corporate as it gets
which is why I see this as unfair.

In the real corporate world we are given equity in the successes we create.

My last large deal I helped a team of Quants break their algorithm
on a huge spread trading platform. My contract is a set amount.

But because I was the person to break the algo and enable them to raise
50 million I got equity in the deal. Paying me a few 100K for what I created
would have been bullshit.

No fund manager would put up with that non sense

The real corporate world does not work by paying people a fraction of the equity
they create.

Only the UFC works that way
Congrats on your success buddy
Killer stuff

But your situation has nothing to do with Conor's at all.
You created something that helped the over-all company

Conor makes tens of millions off his fights & does nothing for UFC outside of that

But you are way off on "Only the UFC works that way"

What other sports franchise just gave some tens or hundreds of millions outside of their salary? lol

Derek Jeter was the biggest sports star in the media capital of the world in the modern era.
He did not become an owner, just because ... he went & bought into another team.

Jeter also played in 90% of the games & was on all the broadcast ... unlike Conor (or RR) who just perform on a small % of the company's product (fight cards)

Oh ...
Conor did get equity off of the fights he participated in
He made a rumored $30m off the Khabib fight with most likely $25m of that being equity from the fight.

He wants equity given to him for things he is not involved in.
He was never fighting on ESPN so he did not deserve any of that money as a gift lol

Where I support Conor COMPLETELY is a new negotiation of his contract since PPV points mean less now
He deserves a much higher guarantee than ever before
But that is for HIS fights.
He deserves nothing for other fights
 

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You don't think Conor, Ronda, GSP or Silva deserve any ownership?

I'd argue that without Conor or Ronda that billion dollar deal would
not have went down the way it did. Nor the Fox deal

I'd say at minimum they deserve some equity.

Jeter I don't think is a fair comparison nor baseball in general

Baseball was already "Americas past time" long before Jeter

Jeter was not to baseball as Ronda or Conor was to the UFC.

They literally put the entire sport on their backs and carried it across the finish line

Jeter did not do that for baseball... It had already been done

They did far more to build the UFC then these executive clowns that reaped
all the rewards

Especially that dumb ass from Budweiser

"Be yourself... Be Conor McGregor". Clueless and largely useless

On current Conor... Yeah I agree. He ain't much help right now

On "deserves equity"... I work in the hedgefund and private equity
world. If I manage a fund and I'm the catalyst for a giant multimilliondollar
deal I'm getting equity in the deal and piece of the action.

You can't slap some tiny fraction of the deal in salary on a hedgefund
manager and expect him to continue to make you millions.

That aint the way the real financial world works... Only the UFC works that way
cuz they fuck over all their fighters
"Put the entire sport on their backs and carried it across the finish line?" Nah.

They gave the UFC the company large revenue spikes, in the same way people like Lesnar or Kimbo, or the TUF alum or home grown stars like GSP, Liddell, Ortiz, and Couture did at various times. But there were a lot of other fighters on the cards they fought on, and fighters that people like Conor and Ronda fought that made them famous. Without years of work and domination by Aldo, McGregor would have had nothing to stake himself against. Without all that went into building WMMA between Invicta and Strikeforce, there's no Ronda. Both came into already well constructed infrastructures and used their skill and charisma to accelerate growth trends. They also benefited from a high exposure media system that had was well developed online and growing in traditional media via the Fox deal.

But I agree with the core of what you're saying. The fighters, all of them, deserve an ownership stake in the UFC. If the UFC won't settle for a 48-55% share of revenues to the athletes, like some other sports, they could at least offer shares in WME to all of them, and include bonus options for people they can analytically demonstrate "move the needle." The time to do it is now as WME IMG still hasn't gone public, but is always rumored to. For now everyone gets a little tiny piece of the crap Reebok deal while divesting themselves of other sponsorship options, which is nonsense. A strong collective fighter campaign to get a pool of WME IMG shares that would be set aside in the fighters names and yield an annual disbursement would be a way to sidestep the fact that they're prohibited from organizing. But if a single fighter like Conor got a share, either by buying in or being gifted it, it would literally mean the death of the UFC overnight.