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Let's talk about The Ronin! Damn Carlos was one of my favorite Fighters back in the day. Really slick grappling ahead of his time. Great athlete, mixed it up well, well rounded. That crazy immortalized Triangle and Slam from Hughes. Legend of the Sport 100%. I am old enough to have seen him fight in his prime. Dragon Ball Jiu Jitsu ftw.


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Man, if only he had trained with the right coaches and team. I remember watching his debut fight against some giant judoka, who had him outweighed and outsized by a lot. He didn't win that fight but he fought very well during a time when a lot of mma fighters didn't know how to. I always thought he would have beat Frank Shamrock if they had fought.

He did not go on to become a doctor afaik. My understanding is that he was in premed for a time.
 

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Man, if only he had trained with the right coaches and team. I remember watching his debut fight against some giant judoka, who had him outweighed and outsized by a lot. He didn't win that fight but he fought very well during a time when a lot of mma fighters didn't know how to. I always thought he would have beat Frank Shamrock if they had fought.

He did not go on to become a doctor afaik. My understanding is that he was in premed for a time.
Jean Riveire @ Extreme Fighting 2. That was the one right before Eric Paulson and Matt Hume fought for half a century in one of the first, great mma high-level contests.

I did Carlos Newton's HOF biography for Grinder, but Kirik probably published it to an offshore dark web mma website and made millions.

The greatest impact he ever made on the sport was afterward.
From Toronto he studied California case law, and was the primary driving force for the fruition of the first, major lawsuit against Zuffa llc.
After that lawsuit, Zuffa let go of it's grip on the industry, a virtual gag-order was put on Dana White, industry shills across major forums were excommunicated, high-level fighters began leaving without recourse, Zuffa sold the UFC in the biggest sports deal in history and bribed it's way to move the suit to Vegas, WSOF changed it's name(Hmmm....).

What he did for grappling in mma was fantastic.
What he did afterward changed the landscape of mma.
I'll never forget his pre-UFC 17 interview before Bob Gilstrap(which Frank Shamrock co-commentated on) and Dan Henderson.
It's worth the dig.

He is a special, special human being.
 
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Jean Riveire @ Extreme Fighting 2. That was the one right before Eric Paulson and Matt Hume fought for half a century in one of the first, great mma high-level contests.

I did Carlos Newton's HOF biography for Grinder, but Ronald McDonald probably published it to an offshore dark web mma website and made millions.

The greatest impact he ever made on the sport was afterward.
From Toronto he studied California case law, and was the primary driving force for the fruition of the first, major lawsuit against Zuffa llc.
After that lawsuit, Zuffa let go of it's grip on the industry, a virtual gag-order was put on Dana White, industry shills across major forums were excommunicated, high-level fighters began leaving without recourse, Zuffa sold the UFC in the biggest sports deal in history and bribed it's way to move the suit to Vegas, WSOF changed it's name(Hmmm....).

What he did for grappling in mma was fantastic.
What he did afterward changed the landscape of mma.
I'll never forget his pre-UFC 17 interview before Bob Gilstrap(which Frank Shamrock co-commentated on) and Dan Henderson.
It's worth the dig.

He is a special, special human being.
Ah yes, when he gave Gilstrap the lil belly rub.
As far as everything else in your post, Carlos Newton was involved in for all that? I had no idea. Great info, man.
 
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sparkuri

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Ah yes, when he gave Gilstrap the lil belly rub.
As far as everything else in your post, Carlos Newton was involved in for all that? I had no idea. Great info, man.
He's a humble guy.
And he probably likes to live without a target on his back.
He did it in such a way where it didn't draw attention to himself.
I don't think we'd have seen the lawsuit without Newton; he was imo the primary architect.
 

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Man, if only he had trained with the right coaches and team. I remember watching his debut fight against some giant judoka, who had him outweighed and outsized by a lot. He didn't win that fight but he fought very well during a time when a lot of mma fighters didn't know how to. I always thought he would have beat Frank Shamrock if they had fought.

He did not go on to become a doctor afaik. My understanding is that he was in premed for a time.
Oh ok got ya got ya... I thought he went on to become a Dr. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah man Newton was a beast and so under appreciated. With modern training methods and gameplans, who the heck knows. Coulda been an all time great. Great athlete, great subs for the time and Jitz. Fairly well rounded. One of the first guys to get me into the sport!
 
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Oh ok got ya got ya... I thought he went on to become a Dr. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah man Newton was a beast and so under appreciated. With modern training methods and gameplans, who the heck knows. Coulda been an all time great. Great athlete, great subs for the time and Jitz. Fairly well rounded. One of the first guys to get me into the sport!
In my eyes, he is still the biggest waste of talent to have ever been in mma. Who were his coaches and trainers? Who were his training partners? Who were his sponsors?
I honestly think he had everything except the aforementioned to have been the greatest ww or lw.
 

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In my eyes, he is still the biggest waste of talent to have ever been in mma. Who were his coaches and trainers? Who were his training partners? Who were his sponsors?
I honestly think he had everything except the aforementioned to have been the greatest ww or lw.
It was just bad luck that Hughes woke up first. If he hadn't, MMA history would be different.
 

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It was just bad luck that Hughes woke up first. If he hadn't, MMA history would be different.
Exactly...that was no slam from Hughes...he passed out while standing and just woke up first. I remember watching it live and screaming at the TV. LOL
 

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Jean Riveire @ Extreme Fighting 2. That was the one right before Eric Paulson and Matt Hume fought for half a century in one of the first, great mma high-level contests.

I did Carlos Newton's HOF biography for Grinder, but Ronald McDonald probably published it to an offshore dark web mma website and made millions.

The greatest impact he ever made on the sport was afterward.
From Toronto he studied California case law, and was the primary driving force for the fruition of the first, major lawsuit against Zuffa llc.
After that lawsuit, Zuffa let go of it's grip on the industry, a virtual gag-order was put on Dana White, industry shills across major forums were excommunicated, high-level fighters began leaving without recourse, Zuffa sold the UFC in the biggest sports deal in history and bribed it's way to move the suit to Vegas, WSOF changed it's name(Hmmm....).

What he did for grappling in mma was fantastic.
What he did afterward changed the landscape of mma.
I'll never forget his pre-UFC 17 interview before Bob Gilstrap(which Frank Shamrock co-commentated on) and Dan Henderson.
It's worth the dig.

He is a special, special human being.
Seriously?
Care to provide links or sources? I'm genuinely interested
 

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He's a humble guy.
And he probably likes to live without a target on his back.
He did it in such a way where it didn't draw attention to himself.
I don't think we'd have seen the lawsuit without Newton; he was imo the primary architect.
Damn
I'd love to learn more about his involvement and especially WHY he did it. Did he get shafted by zuffa? (Surprising I know right?)
 

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I shit you not.
I am doing a school project scrambling for a USB drive to take to Kinko's.
On it, I find what I haven't seen in ...a decade?

Don't know how to to this, so I did snippets...










My first ever Word document.




And 3rd to date, lol