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Grateful Dude

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Is your house on a canal? Let me know if you need help. I am dying to buy a pellet gun and get some practice.
It wouldn’t be all that humane, but I could totally wreck those with my blow gun. Way bigger target than what I usually shoot at! Dart placement is key....otherwise you end up with it running off with a dart sticking out of him
 

Never_Rolled

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It wouldn’t be all that humane, but I could totally wreck those with my blow gun. Way bigger target than what I usually shoot at! Dart placement is key....otherwise you end up with it running off with a dart sticking out of him
Tell us more about your “blow gun” rates time etc etc.
 
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It wouldn’t be all that humane, but I could totally wreck those with my blow gun. Way bigger target than what I usually shoot at! Dart placement is key....otherwise you end up with it running off with a dart sticking out of him
Kills in one strike so it doesn't violate the state's anti-cruelty laws.

Most effective way of taking them out. Fuckers are too fast to catch by hand and bash over the head


View: https://youtu.be/aoFolCAwkbc#t=02m30s
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I still don’t think that hunting is the main contributing factor to the increasing numbers, but hogs are certainly outpacing any efforts so far. There are a lot of factors that make Tx excellent habitat for hogs, and there is very little that impedes them from doing their thing. Ineffective, sure. But I still can point the finger at hunting as to why the pops are still growing. 750,000 are killed each year in TX - imagine if hunting stopped and then that many more hogs breed.

Hunting and trapping are unlikely to successfully control and/or cull the population....maybe if there was significantly more participation, but it would be a massive effort. Hog hunting is already huge here, so I have a hard time seeing it increase as much as it would take (would have to more than double). Some have suggested that targeted poisoning be used in conjunction with hunting/trapping, but that’s a contentious method locally.

Due to their intelligence and resilience, they can adapt to hunting/trapping in a given area (i.e. they will move on to another location). But, there are literally thousands more to fill in where one sounder left. The cycle just keeps resetting.

You mentioned hogs scattering when one is shot, and yes I’m sure that happens. But there will always be more to take there spot when a sounder leaves. Some are hunting with suppressors, and that allegedly allows on to take multiple shots without a full scatter. I saw a video a while back where a guy had a suppressed.308 and was getting multiple hogs at a time. Was kind of crazy, racking the bolt was as loud as the shot....will see if I can find that again.

The numbers and statistics are staggering though. I think the current estimates in TX are around 2.5 to 3 million hogs. TPWD estimates that about 750,000 are killed each year, so about 25-30%. It is believed that they would have to get that up to 70% just to maintain the population at the numbers we see today. 70% to just control the population size and halt increases....crazy.
Hunting is a factor but I don't remember saying it was the main contributing factor though. The main contributing factor is their crazy fecundity and ability to eat anything. Hunting exacerbates these issues. Trapping has resulted in the ability to control hog populations but it needs to be coupled with putting the brakes on hunting as hunting negates the advantages of trapping.

I really hope for Texas' sake they stay the fuck away from poisoning that idea only.ends badly.
 

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It wouldn’t be all that humane, but I could totally wreck those with my blow gun. Way bigger target than what I usually shoot at! Dart placement is key....otherwise you end up with it running off with a dart sticking out of him
 

Grateful Dude

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I really hope for Texas' sake they stay the fuck away from poisoning that idea only.ends badly.
Amen. It would be a disaster. I can’t remember what town it was but it was in Texas, and there was a poisoning experiment of sorts conducted on a single plot of land (I think it was several hundred acres). Was supposed to be targeted for pigs only. Resulted in hundreds of dead birds and rodents/mammals...and then the experiment abruptly stopped hah. A poison based method would not go well, I just don’t see how it could be the best or proper method. And a poison based program isn’t one of those situations where I’d offer a “prove me wrong” option.

And yeah, you didn’t say “hunting was a main contributing factor”, those were my words. I think what you said was that “hunting is actually making it worse”. I was looking for an example of how hunting has made it worse. Yes, Texas has a lot of hunting; and yes, the population #s have gotten bigger. But just because those are happening concurrently doesn’t mean that hunting is the cause. It’s been accelerating for a hundred years, snowball effect and all that.

Let me ask it this way: if hunting efforts halted, do you think #s would go down? Stabilize? Increase?

In my two previous word-vomit posts, I suppose the point I was trying to make is that there are a lot of factors facilitating the population growth, and IMO hunting isn’t one of the main contributors.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Amen. It would be a disaster. I can’t remember what town it was but it was in Texas, and there was a poisoning experiment of sorts conducted on a single plot of land (I think it was several hundred acres). Was supposed to be targeted for pigs only. Resulted in hundreds of dead birds and rodents/mammals...and then the experiment abruptly stopped hah. A poison based method would not go well, I just don’t see how it could be the best or proper method. And a poison based program isn’t one of those situations where I’d offer a “prove me wrong” option.

And yeah, you didn’t say “hunting was a main contributing factor”, those were my words. I think what you said was that “hunting is actually making it worse”. I was looking for an example of how hunting has made it worse. Yes, Texas has a lot of hunting; and yes, the population #s have gotten bigger. But just because those are happening concurrently doesn’t mean that hunting is the cause. It’s been accelerating for a hundred years, snowball effect and all that.

Let me ask it this way: if hunting efforts halted, do you think #s would go down? Stabilize? Increase?

In my two previous word-vomit posts, I suppose the point I was trying to make is that there are a lot of factors facilitating the population growth, and IMO hunting isn’t one of the main contributors.
I'd bet that the population would either stabilize or continue growing at a reduced rate.
 

MovinOn

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This bad boy would have haunted @Sloppy Bitch and N @Never_Rolled. Too bad it got hit by a semi.



Broderick Vaughan has been trapping nuisance alligators in Leon County for nearly 10 years, and has seen some huge reptiles in odd places.

But he was in awe when he got the call earlier this month about a 12-foot, 463-pound behemoth wandering on I-10 near the Monroe Street exit.

“I’ve been the trapper here in Leon County since April 2010 and that was the third biggest gator I’ve captured,” said Vaughan, the owner of Vaughan’s Gators. “That was a pretty big one and he wasn’t happy that we were trying to remove him.”

A 12-foot alligator was found on I-10 earlier this month: 'He wasn't happy'
 

Never_Rolled

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This bad boy would have haunted @Sloppy Bitch and N @Never_Rolled. Too bad it got hit by a semi.



Broderick Vaughan has been trapping nuisance alligators in Leon County for nearly 10 years, and has seen some huge reptiles in odd places.

But he was in awe when he got the call earlier this month about a 12-foot, 463-pound behemoth wandering on I-10 near the Monroe Street exit.

“I’ve been the trapper here in Leon County since April 2010 and that was the third biggest gator I’ve captured,” said Vaughan, the owner of Vaughan’s Gators. “That was a pretty big one and he wasn’t happy that we were trying to remove him.”

A 12-foot alligator was found on I-10 earlier this month: 'He wasn't happy'
I would have made shoes out of that mutt and the chick in the picture would be massaging deez nuts. @Sloppy Bitch unfortunately would have been eaten when I pushed him into the jaws as I ran.
 
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I would have made shoes out of that mutt and the chick in the picture would be massaging deez nuts. @Sloppy Bitch unfortunately would have been eaten when I pushed him into the jaws as I ran.
You would have zig-zagged like an idiot and I would've hauled ass in a straight sprint
 
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This bad boy would have haunted @Sloppy Bitch and N @Never_Rolled. Too bad it got hit by a semi.



Broderick Vaughan has been trapping nuisance alligators in Leon County for nearly 10 years, and has seen some huge reptiles in odd places.

But he was in awe when he got the call earlier this month about a 12-foot, 463-pound behemoth wandering on I-10 near the Monroe Street exit.

“I’ve been the trapper here in Leon County since April 2010 and that was the third biggest gator I’ve captured,” said Vaughan, the owner of Vaughan’s Gators. “That was a pretty big one and he wasn’t happy that we were trying to remove him.”

A 12-foot alligator was found on I-10 earlier this month: 'He wasn't happy'
I used to live in Leon county.

I have no doubt that this story will be the most exciting thing anyone there talks about in 2019.