General Ex CNN Contributor thinks Hitler didn't finish the job...
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It's tongue in cheek but I'm sure everyone who thinks HItler didn't finish tho job completely agree with him...
the moment one group of people think you are racist, have some type of phobia against them and/or whatever offends them is the exact moment they should be offended and you have every right to do it.. unless you live in some shit hole like russia, china, middle east and possibly canada.. free speech is free speech
I don't completely agree with him, this bit..
... Seems like bullshit to me. History is full of nationalism; Spartans were staunch nationalists, William Wallace, boudica, ancient Rome, the maoris not letting English settle, Tibetans with their racist serfdom, scythians blinding and enslaving pretty much any foreigner. I think natiolism is human instinct and hitory is pretty full of examples.
Thread title sucks.
There is massive difference between pointing out Zionist influence over MSM, and saying whatever it says in the thread title.
There is massive difference between pointing out Zionist influence over MSM, and saying whatever it says in the thread title.
It removes me thinking about what Hill said and directs me to think about the misleading title.
When reporting on something that is meant to elicit an emotional response based on someone’s words and or deeds, it’s very important to be accurate and factually correct. His words alone were enough for debate.
Hill is an entertaining, educated mostly wrong fool.
Lol
I hate that nerd so much and the media just keeps building him up. He would be an absolute nobody if the media didn't just keep looking for shock value.
he pretty much is an absolute nobody. the only time you ever see him is when the fake news media trots him out . the last time i even heard of spencer was when he was "endorsing" tulsi gabbard
Definition of nationalism
1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups Intense nationalism was one of the causes of the war.
2 : a nationalist movement or government opposing nationalisms
Yep. That's what nationalism means.
I don't like the definition part about 'exalting one nation above all others'.
I think its perfectly natural to love and cherish and protect the land that you were raised in and live in, and preserve one's culture and history and lifestyles. But that doesn't necessarily mean you think yours is BETTER than others. Its just the one you care most about as an individual.
I think these 2 things get confused a lot actually. Anyone who is interested in any sort of cultural conservatism gets slapped as a 'supremacist', which I don't think is usually the case. If anything, if one really believes in preserving their own culture I would guess they would be 100% behind other countries to do the same, and there is no contest at play. Let me run my house and you run yours we'll be good neighbors etc.
Very few groups accused of this I suspect these days hold any actual 'supremacist' views, they are just looking out for their own. Some groups do however have a supremacist ideology but we won't mention those groups for fear of being slandered as a supremacist lol
Rhetoric is a bitch. Beware.
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^^ I even wonder this about the nazis sometimes; No doubt their romantic vision and love for the 'fatherland' and German culture and even concepts of an Aryan 'race' as different from other races is all undeniable, but I have in truth not seen much direct evidence that has convinced me that they actually believed it was the BEST race, the MASTER race etc, and had visions of conquering the whole world under it as we've been told through Hollywood films etc etc. Maybe that's why they fought alongside Japan etc, they recognized the Japanese were basically doing the same thing and respected them as their own race and part of the world
If anyone can prove this wrong I would be most interested.
You can love your country without acting all nasty or superior to other countries. I don't see why the 2 are being conflated so much lately
If anyone can prove this wrong I would be most interested.
You can love your country without acting all nasty or superior to other countries. I don't see why the 2 are being conflated so much lately
There is plenty of specified theorizing of the German race theory. You can read it in Mein Kampf or in the writings of Goebbels. The idea wasn't so strange in 1945 because of the global prevalence of a particular type of race theory that had been in practice since the post-reconstruction era. The reigning thought at the time was that races were divided up into several categories and that they had essential characters. The white European race was said to be at the top, particularly those of Nordic ancestry. This philosophy was called teutonism. It spread across anthropology and early political science and became accepted as a kind of just so explanation of racism. All of this theory would eventually be overthrown for not being rigorously tested enough and having no basis in reality, as scientists discovered when they learned more from biology about the lack of differences between people and the fiction of race. Teutonism was already largely discredited by the time the Nazis adopted it and blended it with Nietzschean philosophy and nationalism. But Hitler believed in it and it was useful for the project of justifying rounding up members of certain "non-German" groups and later for mobilizing people to go to war to prove Aryan superiority.
This is the danger of a particular kind of nationalism. It always requires essentializing an identity and then indexing that essential identity to the nation. Sometimes it's based on subscription to a value system, either religious or semi-sacred, e.g. patriotism. Sometimes it's based on arbitrary divisions of race or ethnicity. Sometimes it's political economic and regional, e.g. the Civil War. This type of nationalism is the kind that allowed Germany and Japan to justify their total centralization of power under a unitary government that embodied the essential people.
There are other uses of nationalism, for example we use it to refer to a people establishing common political economic needs in a geographic location and being comprised of one or many cultures when a nation-state is being founded, either through decolonization or secession. Nationalism here usually refers to the desire for statehood. Essentialism can and does sometimes creep into state formation, with majority groups often asserting primacy.
And really essentialism is fundamentally what the words racism or racialization refer to. The belief that someone has certain innate qualities or characteristics because of their skin color or ancestry. Nationalism doesn't always include this as a byproduct, but when it connects citizenship or membership in the nation to white European ethnicity or race, it's white nationalism. The Nazis laced this heavily into their propaganda and unabashedly used Teutonic theories to say who did and didn't belong in the third Reich. The story about Hitler having his bubble burst by Jesse Owens is actually true, though Owens didnt benefit from much respect at home either. The effect of losing wars like Germany and Japan did killed a lot of that energy real quick though.
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