Mir vs Sylvia

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La Paix

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Was Herb stopping the fight the right call? Tim never tapped but Dean stepped in when he saw the break. Buffer announced it as a TKO win but official record shows round 1 sub.



If the ref sees a break is he required to call the fight?
 

sparkuri

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Yes, he is required to stop the fight upon clear evidence of a large broken bone.
 

MMAHAWK

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I was at this fight and immediately noticed the break. Most fans in the arena had no idea what had happened as this was really Vegas fight fans first experience seeing a break.
 

Haulport

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It's pretty much the same as TKO from punches to the head. AT the ref's discretion, he can stop the fight if he feels a fighter has taken too much damage and is at risk of further serious injury and/or not really capable of defending himself properly anymore.
 

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I always thought he made the right call after seeing the replay, but this is a good question.

It's not really a good question. Refs are obligated by the rules to stop fights for broken arms, even if some fighters have pushed through them (such as Rich Franklin or Paige Van Zant) and other sub attempts may have been stopped prematurely.

But we know in this case that Sylvia's arm was broken, so there's nothing to discuss. Herb objectively made the right call.
 

IschKabibble

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It's not really a good question. Refs are obligated by the rules to stop fights for broken arms, even if some fighters have pushed through them (such as Rich Franklin or Paige Van Zant) and other sub attempts may have been stopped prematurely.

But we know in this case that Sylvia's arm was broken, so there's nothing to discuss. Herb objectively made the right call.
No need to be an asshole. Is dislocation treated the same as a break? If so, how do you account for double jointed fighters? Seems a half-decent enough question to me...
 

Sheepdog

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No need to be an asshole. Is dislocation treated the same as a break? If so, how do you account for double jointed fighters? Seems a half-decent enough question to me...
I wasn't being an asshole. Whether or not Herb made the right decision - which is what the thread asked - is just literally not up for debate. We now know that it was the right decision as per the rules because we know that Sylvia suffered a broken arm.

You're now asking a different question from the one the OP asked. And the answer to that question is that all of these things require a judgement call by the referee. The guiding principle is the 'severity' of the injury and rules in the past have explicitly stated that a broken bone constitutes a severe injury (and refs are instructed of this). So in this case, the ref made a correct judgement call. For other injuries, the ref would have to make a more difficult judgement as to its severity.

As for a fighter being 'double jointed'', such a thing doesn't exist, and flexibility doesn't matter once an arm has been snapped.
 

IschKabibble

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I wasn't being an asshole. Whether or not Herb made the right decision - which is what the thread asked - is just literally not up for debate. We now know that it was the right decision as per the rules because we know that Sylvia suffered a broken arm.

You're now asking a different question from the one the OP asked. And the answer to that question is that all of these things require a judgement call by the referee. The guiding principle is the 'severity' of the injury and rules in the past have explicitly stated that a broken bone constitutes a severe injury (and refs are instructed of this). So in this case, the ref made a correct judgement call. For other injuries, the ref would have to make a more difficult judgement as to its severity.

As for a fighter being 'double jointed'', such a thing doesn't exist, and flexibility doesn't matter once an arm has been snapped.
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