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Splinty said:

To what end?
That's not what the Palestinians demand for peace.
They want to repatriate Palestinians including 50+ years of off spring into newly defined sovereign state Israel after you build two states.

Everyone, including the Israelis, use the rough borders of 1967 as a foundation guide for a two state solution. I don't care what they are. It's not my land. Give it up. That doesn't solve that security is the primary concern for Israel. Palestinians through various entities like Hamas don't agree to the 1967 limits, but more importantly no Palestinian leadership has ever agreed or proposed any land deal without the right of return. The latter is a straight non starter and until that is solved (along with Jerusalem, though that's easier since its just land lines eventually) there's zero real negotiating occurring. All lands deal are DOA until right of return is off the table in a two state solution. No new state is going to repatriate the guys intrinsically defining their separate statehood and being lead by entities that deny Israels right to exist.

If this was all just land and lines, this would all be over by now. Do the 1967 borders tomorrow and the Palestinians will still reject it. What's the solution there?


EDIT- Looked it up. 5+ million Palestinians and growing demand the right to return to newly formed Israel as a crux for peace. Israels entire population is 9 million. How do you solve that demand?

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Splinty said:

To what end?
That's not what the Palestinians demand for peace.
They want to repatriate Palestinians including 50+ years of off spring into newly defined sovereign state Israel after you build two states.

Everyone, including the Israelis, use the rough borders of 1967 as a foundation guide for a two state solution. I don't care what they are. It's not my land. Give it up. That doesn't solve that security is the primary concern for Israel. Palestinians through various entities like Hamas don't agree to the 1967 limits, but more importantly no Palestinian leadership has ever agreed or proposed any land deal without the right of return. The latter is a straight non starter and until that is solved (along with Jerusalem, though that's easier since its just land lines eventually) there's zero real negotiating occurring. All lands deal are DOA until right of return is off the table in a two state solution. No new state is going to repatriate the guys intrinsically defining their separate statehood and being lead by entities that deny Israels right to exist.

If this was all just land and lines, this would all be over by now. Do the 1967 borders tomorrow and the Palestinians will still reject it. What's the solution there?


EDIT- Looked it up. 5+ million Palestinians and growing demand the right to return to newly formed Israel as a crux for peace. Israels entire population is 9 million. How do you solve that demand?

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Palestinians have dismissed US President Donald Trump's new Middle East peace plan as a "conspiracy".

The plan envisages a Palestinian state and the recognition of Israeli sovereignty over West Bank settlements.

Mr Trump said Jerusalem would remain Israel's "undivided" capital, but the Palestinian capital would "include areas of East Jerusalem".

Reacting to Tuesday's announcement, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Jerusalem was "not for sale".

"All our rights are not for sale and are not for bargain," he added.

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Splinty said:

To what end?
That's not what the Palestinians demand for peace.
They want to repatriate Palestinians including 50+ years of off spring into newly defined sovereign state Israel after you build two states.

Everyone, including the Israelis, use the rough borders of 1967 as a foundation guide for a two state solution. I don't care what they are. It's not my land. Give it up. That doesn't solve that security is the primary concern for Israel. Palestinians through various entities like Hamas don't agree to the 1967 limits, but more importantly no Palestinian leadership has ever agreed or proposed any land deal without the right of return. The latter is a straight non starter and until that is solved (along with Jerusalem, though that's easier since its just land lines eventually) there's zero real negotiating occurring. All lands deal are DOA until right of return is off the table in a two state solution. No new state is going to repatriate the guys intrinsically defining their separate statehood and being lead by entities that deny Israels right to exist.

If this was all just land and lines, this would all be over by now. Do the 1967 borders tomorrow and the Palestinians will still reject it. What's the solution there?


EDIT- Looked it up. 5+ million Palestinians and growing demand the right to return to newly formed Israel as a crux for peace. Israels entire population is 9 million. How do you solve that demand?

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Spunkchops said:

newly released emails from judicial watch, seth rich?!

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Spunkchops said:

newly released emails from judicial watch, seth rich?!

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Daglord said:

Browse Disbursements - FEC.gov

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Zeph said:

CrowdStrike - Wikipedia

notorious assassin coders

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Daglord said:

kinda makes you wonder who the Clintons had killed on 11/29/16

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Frank Armitage said:

who if anybody?

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Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas has shown up unexpectedly on Capitol Hill, where he is demanding to meet with senators to tell his side of the impeachment scandal story.

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"Call the witnesses," Mr Parnas responded. "The president knew everything."

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