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What say you?

  • No punishment

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Hefty $$$ fine

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Less than 10 game suspension

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • 10+ game suspension

    Votes: 11 50.0%
  • Lifetime ban

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Total voters
    22

silentsinger

Momofuku
Jun 23, 2015
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If you consider someone pointing out cheating a snitch, then he's right. He's also a cheater calling someone a snitch for pointing out cheating, which makes him a member of the Boston Red Sux.
K. Pretend I know absolutely nothing about baseball, Red Sox and Papi. Layman terms.
 

mysticmac

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Oct 18, 2015
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I just started following MLB closely last season, and was a casual (at best) before that. Can you or someone give me cliffnotes on Ortiz' Ped stuff they briefly mentioned?
He got popped for PEDs when he joined the Red Sux in 2003 prior to when MLB officially implemented PED testing. It was basically a trial run, so he was never punished. He then blamed it on tainted supplements, then MLB said the tests were unreliable in an attempt to justify not punishing him.

Then one of the executives of the Boston Red Sux led an investigation into steroid usage in MLB and surprise surprise none of the Red Sux players were named in the report. Players from a number of teams around the league were named, but the two teams that contained the most players named in the report were the New York Yankees and the Baltimore Orioles which happen to both be in the same division as the Red Sux. Basically, they couldn't win the division so they led an investigation into their opponents while they continued to cheat.

Fast forward to MLB's recent handling of the Astro's cheating, and they haven't penalized any of the players for what MLB itself calls a player driven act on the part of the 2017 WS "champions". And MLB has an open investigation against the 2018 WS "champions" Boston Red Sux for basically the same thing the Astros got caught doing the previous year. And, oh yeah, one of the guys that was proven to be heavily involved in the Astros cheating, Alex Cora, went from the Astros bench coach in 2017 to the Red Sux manager in 2018, but he probably stopped cheating, right? Despite that, MLB hasn't announced findings from the investigation into the Red Sux most likely because they don't want to admit that yet another WS title is tainted for a second year in a row. Then the Astro were very likely using buzzers in the 2019 season when they went to, and thankfully lost, the WS. Yet MLB has somehow completed that investigation, despite still scratching their heads with regard to the 2018 investigation, and announced they found no evidence of the Astros cheating in 2019.

Basically, the league is covering up a lot of cheating and they've been doing it for a long time, and David Ortiz' cheating crossed paths with that back in the day.
 
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silentsinger

Momofuku
Jun 23, 2015
21,038
14,484
He got popped for PEDs when he joined the Red Sux in 2003 prior to when MLB officially implemented PED testing. It was basically a trial run, so he was never punished. He then blamed it on tainted supplements, then MLB said the tests were unreliable in an attempt to justify not punishing him.

Then one of the executives of the Boston Red Sux led an investigation into steroid usage in MLB and surprise surprise none of the Red Sux players were named in the report. Players from a number of teams around the league were named, but the two teams that contained the most players named in the report were the New York Yankees and the Baltimore Orioles which happen to both be in the same division as the Red Sux. Basically, they could win the division so they led an investigation into their opponents while they continued to cheat.

Fast forward to MLB's recent handling of the Astro's cheating, and they haven't penalized any of the players for what MLB itself calls a player driven act on the part of the 2017 WS "champions". And MLB has an open investigation against the 2018 WS "champions" Boston Red Sux for basically the same thing the Astros got caught doing the previous year. And, oh yeah, one of the guys that was proven to be heavily involved in the Astros cheating, Alex Cora, went from the Astros bench coach in 2017 to the Red Sux manager in 2018, but he probably stopped cheating, right? Despite that, MLB hasn't announced findings from the investigation into the Red Sux most likely because they don't want to admit that yet another WS title is tainted for a second year in a row. Then the Astro were very likely using buzzers in the 2019 season when they went to, and thankfully lost, the WS. Yet MLB has somewhere completed that investigation, despite still scratching their heads with regard to the 2018 investigation, and announced they found no evidence of the Astros cheating in 2019.

Basically, the league is covering up a lot of cheating and they've been doing it for a long time, and David Ortiz' cheating crossed paths with that back in the day.
I knew none of this whatsoever. Good call asking the question, D241 @D-raw
Appears I've been sold a lie. Good job I'm not a HUGE baseball fan, I was just told to watch it year before last when they were winning everything and it sort of stuck.
 

D241

Banned
Jan 14, 2015
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The greatest team in the history of sports.

2020 will make 28.
Don't be mad at me, but your post reeked of bias, and I wasn't sure how to find out without giving myself up my reason lol.

I'm not in the dark about A-Rod and I know with the Yankees was when he was public enemy #1. I don't fault you for trying to sway your opinion and team though, but I did see right through it lol.

Rangers are my team. I like the Red Sox/Yankee's rivalry and don't really root for either one when they play, and I think that will remain. Right now Astros are public enemy #1 to me. If I find out more about Boston, they'll be right behind them.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Don't be mad at me, but your post reeked of bias, and I wasn't sure how to find out without giving myself up my reason lol.

I'm not in the dark about A-Rod and I know with the Yankees was when he was public enemy #1. I don't fault you for trying to sway your opinion and team though, but I did see right through it lol.

Rangers are my team. I like the Red Sox/Yankee's rivalry and don't really root for either one when they play, and I think that will remain. Right now Astros are public enemy #1 to me. If I find out more about Boston, they'll be right behind them.
The entire AL sucks.

NL is where it's at.
 

mysticmac

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Oct 18, 2015
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Don't be mad at me, but your post reeked of bias, and I wasn't sure how to find out without giving myself up my reason lol.
Yeah, I already knew that. It isn't hard to figure out which team I'm a fan of if you glance at any baseball related thread on this forum. Also, the Red Sux suck and always will.
 

Eric Trump

he/him
Nov 21, 2017
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if we are talking about astros I would let it slide. Democrats cheat all the time and no one cares
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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That the Yankees finish with a better record than the Reds?
That the Reds don't finish in last place.

I'm not going to compare the Yankees to the Reds until MLB comes up with a salary cap.