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Splinty

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Saying a group of people move like a pack of chimps I see differently then saying they’re chimps.
You're now changing the statement specifically.
Here it is:

All I see is people acting like a bunch of chimps.

In response to a video of a group of black people is going to again be taken the wrong way in 90% of the world.

And if you live in the 10% where it's not going to be you still don't have enough calls to be totally ignorant of the history and accuse everybody else of persecuting you. Again as I said, I can understand somebody making an accidental faux pas. I cannot understand doubling down as if you're in the right and being persecuted for that statement about a video of a bunch of black people.
 

Eric Trump

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I'm not trying to argue with you about social discourse. Only that black people being referred to as chimps is in fact a bad thing to do and lots of people consider it so. Is a common racist go to. If you refer to black people as chimps, even in Europe, people are going to assume that you're doing so for racist reasons.
That's my point. Somebody referred to black people as a bunch of chimps and feels they are persecuted for it. The point is that if you do that in real life almost anywhere on the planet people are going to assume the racist comparison because that is the history there
I agree with everything you said, but even europeans dont do that. Not only would you be considered a racist, you would have serious legal issues possibly ending up in prison. We were arguing about europeans being racist, they are not, they cant be. It is not fucking allowed, as I said, there is no free speech outside your country
 

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You're now changing the statement specifically.
Here it is:

All I see is people acting like a bunch of chimps.

In response to a video of a group of black people is going to again be taken the wrong way in 90% of the world.

And if you live in the 10% where it's not going to be you still don't have enough calls to be totally ignorant of the history and accuse everybody else of persecuting you. Again as I said, I can understand somebody making an accidental faux pas. I cannot understand doubling down as if you're in the right and being persecuted for that statement about a video of a bunch of black people.
Please educate me here doc.
Acting like and being are different, yes?
Every once in a while I tell my students “this is a classroom, not a zoo” the implication being that they’re behaving like animals. Catch my drift?
 

Eric Trump

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Both of those things happened this season. Europe has big problems with racism and it's only getting worse.
what are we talking about here? Something some inbreds did while watching soccer? Do you know what kind of people attend soccer matches? They are fucking morons, complete idiots, being racist is the least of their problem
 
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I agree with everything you said, but even europeans dont do that. Not only would you be considered a racist, you would have serious legal issues possibly ending up in prison. We were arguing about europeans being racist, they are not, they cant be. It is not fucking allowed, as I said, there is no free speech outside your country
Pretty sure Canada allows free speech.

Not sure if you consider it a real country though. It's mostly a vassal state like the UK and Australia.
 

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what are we talking about here? Something some inbreds did while watching soccer? Do you know what kind of people attend soccer matches? They are fucking morons, complete idiots, being racist is the least of their problem
Pub I'm at in brugges is full of man utd fans.

Ones asleep
 
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Please educate me here doc.
Acting like and being are different, yes?
Every once in a while I tell my students “this is a classroom, not a zoo” the implication being that they’re behaving like animals. Catch my drift?
Disciplined Galt @Elrond s students
 

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what are we talking about here? Something some inbreds did while watching soccer? Do you know what kind of people attend soccer matches? They are fucking morons, complete idiots, being racist is the least of their problem
Far right parties have been increasing their support all across the continent. In the UK for instance we have a PM that described black people as Picaninnies with watermelon smiles, and recently hired an aide that is a eugenicist that ascribes to the blacks genetically have a lower IQ myth and then the PM refused to denounce those views. It's far from just in football although that is one area seeing a large subsequent increase in incidents. Racism is a societal problem, it's on the rise due to the failure of the centre-left and people turning to the far right for answers.
 

Eric Trump

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Pretty sure Canada allows free speech.

Not sure if you consider it a real country though. It's mostly a vassal state like the UK and Australia.
well if you go on a radio, state facts that leftists get pissed about you saying them out loud and dont end up with an 8 year long prison sentence or 15000 euro fine, then you live in a country that has free speech. It definitely is not where I am from and I am from europe, where we cannot be racist even if we wanted to be
 

Eric Trump

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Far right parties have been increasing their support all across the continent. In the UK for instance we have a PM that described black people as Picaninnies with watermelon smiles, and recently hired an aide that is a eugenicist that ascribes to the blacks genetically have a lower IQ myth and then the PM refused to denounce those views. It's far from just in football although that is one area seeing a large subsequent increase in incidents. Racism is a societal problem, it's on the rise due to the failure of the centre-left and people turning to the far right for answers.
I dont care much about politics and I dont want to sound intolerant, but it was about goddamn time something was done about what is going on in europe. If what you are saying is true that is. The last time I cared about politics was when you were considered an extremist just for being slightly on the right. What do you expect will happen when you shit on white people, import muslims and let assholes run your country to the ground. Whites can play nice but when you piss them off enough you will end up with another hitler
 
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Far right parties have been increasing their support all across the continent. In the UK for instance we have a PM that described black people as Picaninnies with watermelon smiles, and recently hired an aide that is a eugenicist that ascribes to the blacks genetically have a lower IQ myth and then the PM refused to denounce those views. It's far from just in football although that is one area seeing a large subsequent increase in incidents. Racism is a societal problem, it's on the rise due to the failure of the centre-left and people turning to the far right for answers.
If millions of people feel that way for all of history there could be something to it. Plus all IQ test studies have consistent results. Doesn't make anyone better than anyone. But the math is there and facts dont lie. According to the data asians are the smartest people on average. Then Europeans and sub saharan africa comes in towards the bottom. I'm not sure how they incorporated schooling or lack of into the numbers but it's been done countless times with the same results
 

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If millions of people feel that way for all of history there could be something to it. Plus all IQ test studies have consistent results. Doesn't make anyone better than anyone. But the math is there and facts dont lie. According to the data asians are the smartest people on average. Then Europeans and sub saharan africa comes in towards the bottom. I'm not sure how they incorporated schooling or lack of into the numbers but it's been done countless times with the same results
Environment plays a larger factor than anything else. When certain groups get left behind socio-economically then their poorer environments will depress scores on IQ tests for a whole host of reasons. One prominent one is that poor people have been forced to live in older housing with water being supplied by lead lined pipes which is proven to lower IQ scores across the board. Other factors are parents too tired from working multiple jobs to help theirs kids to the same level as others or not being able to provide an environment as stimulating as parents with greater wealth.

The reason Asains generally do better is because these studies are done in the U.S. and there is a large economic barrier for Asians to immigrate to the U.S. Meaning the immigrants come from a higher socio-economic background in the first place and are therefore not drawing from the full pool of society to draw the averages down.

Whole papers have been written to debunk these myths. You should do some extra research if you truly want to be informed.
 
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Environment plays a larger factor than anything else. When certain groups get left behind socio-economically then their poorer environments will depress scores on IQ tests for a whole host of reasons. One prominent one is that poor people have been forced to live in older housing with water being supplied by lead lines pipes which is proven to lower IQ scores across the board. Other factors are parents too tired from working multiple jobs to help theirs kids to the same level as others.

The reason Asains generally do better is because these studies are done in the U.S. and there is a large economic barrier for asians to immigrate to the U.S. Meaning the immigrants come from a higher socio-economic background in the first place and are therefore not drawing from the full pool of society to draw the averages down.

Whole papers have been written to debunk these myths. You should do some extra research if you truly want to be informed.
Bullshit
 
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Environment plays a larger factor than anything else. When certain groups get left behind socio-economically then their poorer environments will depress scores on IQ tests for a whole host of reasons. One prominent one is that poor people have been forced to live in older housing with water being supplied by lead lines pipes which is proven to lower IQ scores across the board. Other factors are parents too tired from working multiple jobs to help theirs kids to the same level as others.

The reason Asains generally do better is because these studies are done in the U.S. and there is a large economic barrier for asians to immigrate to the U.S. Meaning the immigrants come from a higher socio-economic background in the first place and are therefore not drawing from the full pool of society to draw the averages down.

Whole papers have been written to debunk these myths. You should do some extra research if you truly want to be informed.
I just tried to inform myself but I found the same results. Again...

"The performance of young children on the ‘mirror self-recognition test’ varies hugely across cultures, a new study has shown. This is the test that involves surreptitiously putting a mark on a child’s forehead and then seeing how they react when presented with their mirror image. Attempts by the child to touch or remove the mark are taken as a sign that he or she recognises themselves in the mirror. Studies in the West suggest that around half of all 18-month-olds pass the test, rising to 70 per cent by 24 months. Chimps, orangutans, dolphins and elephants have also been shown to pass the test, and there’s recent debate over whether monkeys can too.

Tanya Broesch and her colleagues began by taking a simplified version of the mirror self-recognition test to Kenya, where they administered it to 82 children aged between 18 to 72 months. This version of the test involved a small, yellow post-it note rather than a red splodge, and children weren’t given the usual verbal prompts such as ‘who’s that in the mirror?’. Amazingly, just two of the children ‘passed’ the test by touching or removing the post-it note. The other eighty children ‘froze’ when they saw their reflection – that is they stared at themselves but didn’t react to the post-it note.

Next, Broesch and her team took their test to Fiji, Saint Lucia, Grenada, Peru, Canada and the USA, where they tested 133 children aged between 36 to 55 months. The performance of the North American children was in line with past research, with 88 per cent of the US kids and 77 per cent of the Canadians ‘passing’ the test. Rates of passing in Saint Lucia (58 per cent), Peru (52 per cent) and Grenada (51 per cent) were significantly lower. In Fiji, none of the children ‘passed’ the test."

Cross-cultural reflections on the mirror self-recognition test