Term "Chinese virus" causes physical harm to Asian Americans.

Megaterio Llamas said:

While they're at it hopefully some of the race trolls like Artist and David White come back.

The nazis were some of the funniest...

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I’ll suck yaadong said:

I enjoyed Meir kehane.

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I’ll suck yaadong said:

I enjoyed Meir kehane.

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Chromium said:

Oh I thought the title was being unironic
FIRST ON CBS7: Suspect admits he tried to kill family at Midland Sam's Club
19-year-old racist idiot tried to stab an Asian family to death while they were shopping. And then there's Asian Americans are being confronted by racist idiots on the subway. Yes it's physically harmful to try and change the name to "the Chinese virus", when some of the people hearing the message are that fucking stupid. This is why it's called a dog-whistle.

And how is "Kung Flu" not racist? And why would we call a virus that already has two very simple names that everyone is already using "the Chinese virus?" It's obviously a political decision.

And above all that, why the fuck is this in the MMA forum?

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JonJonesBeard said:

In the quoted post you were defending their statements that it was made in America and brough to China by the CIA because America was mean first.

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jason7Ǯ said:

That's not a defense. It's a statement of fact. The blame game originated in the west before the east began it's trolling campaigns. You can freely look up when the term Chinese Virus began or narratives blaming China and when the news stories about American origins started. What's most interesting is that the American lab conspiracy is only spreading in Anglophone networks. Interestingly, in China, the more popular conspiracy spreading in Mandarin language networks is about Chinese students coming home to Wuhan for New Year carrying the virus, which also doesn't make sense because the outbreak started well prior to Chinese New Year. But these things are conspiracies, which is to say mashups of official stories and flights of fancy, spread virally through networks. These are not made up ideological crusades. They're empirically verifiable and trackable information campaigns. The Chinese government is usually full of crap. So is the US government. But worse is both countries gangs of fans who amplify nonsense and hatred/blame for the other, taking advantage of high information consumption and sharing during this time. Any blaming narratives from any direction are functionally worthless right now as we all struggle to recover and when you encounter them in official statements, news stories and social media, it's critical to apply this simple stripped down rhetorical analysis to them. Ask yourself:

1) Who is the person or source speaking? Who do they want us to believe they are/what do they expect us to believe they represent?

2) Who is the intended audience? There are numerous clues in a piece of text that tell you the intended audience(s). The audiences constructed can shift from paragraph to paragraph in a news story or public address. Note who is being reassured or pressured to think something or act in a particular way.

3) What is the setting or context of the message? What day and time was it released? Where did it first enter the public sphere? What events were surrounding the initial spread of a message and how have shifting contexts modified its meaning?

4) What does a face value read of the message tell you? Then, what are possible interpretations of the message based on what you know about the speaker and the potential audiences constructed?

5) The best part. If carried through to extremes, what are possible actions that the text leaves open or suggests? Working backward from the extreme, what are other plausible things the speaker is asking permission for/insisting on and what are plausible understandings the various audiences summoned by the text could infer that encourage them to act/think in particular ways.

This is pretty straightforward critical thinking, but is especially critical in a time where us vs. them narratives are likely to be seductive. The only them is the virus. The only us is all of humanity. The only road blame analysis leads to at this point in the game is war, either economic or actual, neither of which the world will be able to afford.

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jason7Ǯ said:

That's not a defense. It's a statement of fact. The blame game originated in the west before the east began it's trolling campaigns. You can freely look up when the term Chinese Virus began or narratives blaming China and when the news stories about American origins started. What's most interesting is that the American lab conspiracy is only spreading in Anglophone networks. Interestingly, in China, the more popular conspiracy spreading in Mandarin language networks is about Chinese students coming home to Wuhan for New Year carrying the virus, which also doesn't make sense because the outbreak started well prior to Chinese New Year. But these things are conspiracies, which is to say mashups of official stories and flights of fancy, spread virally through networks. These are not made up ideological crusades. They're empirically verifiable and trackable information campaigns. The Chinese government is usually full of crap. So is the US government. But worse is both countries gangs of fans who amplify nonsense and hatred/blame for the other, taking advantage of high information consumption and sharing during this time. Any blaming narratives from any direction are functionally worthless right now as we all struggle to recover and when you encounter them in official statements, news stories and social media, it's critical to apply this simple stripped down rhetorical analysis to them. Ask yourself:

1) Who is the person or source speaking? Who do they want us to believe they are/what do they expect us to believe they represent?

2) Who is the intended audience? There are numerous clues in a piece of text that tell you the intended audience(s). The audiences constructed can shift from paragraph to paragraph in a news story or public address. Note who is being reassured or pressured to think something or act in a particular way.

3) What is the setting or context of the message? What day and time was it released? Where did it first enter the public sphere? What events were surrounding the initial spread of a message and how have shifting contexts modified its meaning?

4) What does a face value read of the message tell you? Then, what are possible interpretations of the message based on what you know about the speaker and the potential audiences constructed?

5) The best part. If carried through to extremes, what are possible actions that the text leaves open or suggests? Working backward from the extreme, what are other plausible things the speaker is asking permission for/insisting on and what are plausible understandings the various audiences summoned by the text could infer that encourage them to act/think in particular ways.

This is pretty straightforward critical thinking, but is especially critical in a time where us vs. them narratives are likely to be seductive. The only them is the virus. The only us is all of humanity. The only road blame analysis leads to at this point in the game is war, either economic or actual, neither of which the world will be able to afford.

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jason7Ǯ said:

That's not a defense. It's a statement of fact. The blame game originated in the west before the east began it's trolling campaigns.

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JonJonesBeard said:

You're doing it again. Look at your very opening statement:

Here's what we know. It originated in China, due to their deplorable cultural practices. It spread and they didn't tell anyone, they even continued to allow recreational travel in and out of the country. These are things that we know happened, and you're pretending that it's not okay to point it out. This is the third pandemic China has released on the world in less than 20 years, it's about time they clean up their act if they want to sit at the big boy table.

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