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Jehannum

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well ... Aldo handled it (Edgar's relentless cardio) and Conor only needed a few breaths in his fight with Aldo.

and I think Kavanagh said what a lot of us felt when it happened ... WOW ..... BUT NOT LIKE THIS!! :( hehe
which part was optimistic Silverball @Silverball
 

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The best match-up if you're a fan of Conor's, or even if you're a hater is Frankie Edgar. If you're a fan, then you have to believe that Conor is every bit as talented as you thought he was, and if he lands even one of those lefts he landed against Diaz, Edgar is either out or on his way to being finished. If you're a hater, then Frankie has all of the tools to beat McGregor, as long as he can avoid Conor's power early in the fight. I also am not of the belief that Conor has zero BJJ, but I don't think that it was high level enough to hang with high level blackbelt like Nate Diaz.

Aldo's ability to absorb shots was being questioned even before his fight with McGregor, and 6 or 7 months is not enough time to recover from having your lights shut off. It's would be ill advised for Aldo to fight at UFC 200, to say the least.
 

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The best match-up if you're a fan of Conor's, or even if you're a hater is Frankie Edgar. If you're a fan, then you have to believe that Conor is every bit as talented as you thought he was, and if he lands even one of those lefts he landed against Diaz, Edgar is either out or on his way to being finished. If you're a hater, then Frankie has all of the tools to beat McGregor, as long as he can avoid Conor's power early in the fight. I also am not of the belief that Conor has zero BJJ, but I don't think that it was high level enough to hang with high level blackbelt like Nate Diaz.

Aldo's ability to absorb shots was being questioned even before his fight with McGregor, and 6 or 7 months is not enough time to recover from having your lights shut off. It's would be ill advised for Aldo to fight at UFC 200, to say the least.
Not true.
 

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which part was optimistic Silverball @Silverball
Aldo didn't handle Edgar's relentless cardio, which is how the fight ended up being so close. Aldo put just enough rounds away early to get a decision in a 5 round fight. Fans remember that fight as being a much more dominant performance than it was for Aldo, and at the time it happened I was a bigger Aldo fan than I was an Edgar fan.

Also, I'll change that "optimistic" to something else.
 

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Aldo didn't handle Edgar's relentless cardio, which is how the fight ended up being so close. Aldo put just enough rounds away early to get a decision in a 5 round fight. Fans remember that fight as being a much more dominant performance than it was for Aldo, and at the time it happened I was a bigger Aldo fan than I was an Edgar fan.

Also, I'll change that "optimistic" to something else.
hehe you can leave the optimistic, I was just genuinely curious.

the fight was definitely close, but Edgar is really good and does indeed have that relentless cardio. I think Hominick had some success against a faded Aldo too late in the fight, and mounted him?

I see now it wasn't a good analogy (or whatever that was) :)
 

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Not true.
I don't know what MMA boards you go on, but on the board that many of the posters here used to post on, there were multiple threads discussing Aldo having been rocked in some of his most recent fights prior to Conor. There was no consensus, but it was definitely being talked about.
 

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I don't think Aldo deserves the next shot, he's been acting like a real punk lately IMO.

I'd much rather see Frankie. He's a much more interesting fight: grizzled vet, very fast, great movement, and is always a threat to take you down. That's going to be a big test for Conor.

Let Jose "Keyboard Warrior" Aldo fight Max Holloway or someone like that to earn his shot, because when you get ktfo in 13 seconds you need to reestablish yourself hahaha that's what's up lads
 

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I don't know what MMA boards you go on, but on the board that many of the posters here used to post on, there were multiple threads discussing Aldo having been rocked in some of his most recent fights prior to Conor. There was no consensus, but it was definitely being talked about.
The only fight I recall him being noticeably rocked in was the Mendes fight where he got dropped/took a lot of damage throughout. On the boards I frequented at the time everyone was pointing out that Aldo has a good chin/recovery, but I didn't see anyone questioning his chin.
 

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The only fight I recall him being noticeably rocked in was the Mendes fight where he got dropped/took a lot of damage throughout. On the boards I frequented at the time everyone was pointing out that Aldo has a good chin/recovery, but I didn't see anyone questioning his chin.
He was known to have a good chin throughout his career, then he started to get rocked every now and then (Mendes fight for example), but he always recovered well. He was taking more shots to the head, which happens when fighters get to the later portion of their careers, like GSP. All of this was a part of the discussions taking place prior to the McGregor fight, but add in all of the Conor fans talking crazy shit, and you have an approximation of what I was referring to.
 

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what happened to him being unable to make 145 like they were claiming before? They said he would never return and thus couldn't fight Frankie or Aldo again.

one loss and he can magically drop weight again? :smile:

Aldo is the better decision for them. He would probably lose against Frankie and so they have a better shot at beating Aldo again. I think its best if they leave Frankie to when they have to so he can get a win again. Its better business decision for them.

Or he could go to LW and fight his way up to the belt.. which the UFC will avoid too since its not an easy road to the belt like before.
 

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He was known to have a good chin throughout his career, then he started to get rocked every now and then (Mendes fight for example), but he always recovered well. He was taking more shots to the head, which happens when fighters get to the later portion of their careers, like GSP. All of this was a part of the discussions taking place prior to the McGregor fight, but add in all of the Conor fans talking crazy shit, and you have an approximation of what I was referring to.
What do you mean by every now and again? Because all I can think of is the Mendes fight, where he recovered in a split second. I don't think the second Mendes fight is a reflection of Aldo being at the end of his career. I saw it as two great fighters having a close fight.

I think you're mixing up post fight conversations with pre-fight conversations, tbh. Maybe a few guys were talking about some of these out of prime hypotheticals pre-McGregor, but there wasn't any basis for it.
 

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one loss and he can magically drop weight again? :smile:.
heard that.
and...i'm still all about conor's claims to run through all divisions. let's get that lawler fight at ufc 200. if he back pedals now, then he's the king of the keyboard warriors.

besides...frankie is gonna have to fight nate for the 145 belt. :leftright::)

 

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Why do people who just saw Conor lose want to see him lose so bad again?

Plus Aldo should get a rematch anyway, that was such a quick fight.
Exactly. A champ that's cleaned out his division and is on the way to cleaning it out a second time, gets stopped in 13 seconds and everybody acts like its a foregone conclusion that Conor beats him every time. That ending won't be repeated, no matter how many times they fight. Aldo deserves a rematch and, personally, I think he wins this time.

Edgar deserves the next shot, no matter who wins. If Conor wins, they can't sell a trilogy fight unless Aldo gets a win or two. If Aldo wins, Conor doesn't deserve an immediate rematch if he drops the title without a successful defense.
 

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I don't think Aldo deserves the next shot, he's been acting like a real punk lately IMO.

I'd much rather see Frankie. He's a much more interesting fight: grizzled vet, very fast, great movement, and is always a threat to take you down. That's going to be a big test for Conor.

Let Jose "Keyboard Warrior" Aldo fight Max Holloway or someone like that to earn his shot, because when you get ktfo in 13 seconds you need to reestablish yourself hahaha that's what's up lads
We've all been reading your smear campaign on Aldo and some of your points are valid but keyboard warrior?

Jose is by far Conors best victory and without it his record isn't much more than above average IMO. Without the Aldo KO his next best win is short notice Mendes and he got that fight after beating #9 ranked Siver (lol).

McG is awesome, big fan here but to refer to Aldo as a KBW is retarded. Without Jose being so dominant at FW for so long Conor beating him in 13 seconds wouldn't be so impressive, give credit where due I'd say.
 

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Jds smashed Cain in under a minute too.how did the rematch go again?
 

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We've all been reading your smear campaign on Aldo and some of your points are valid but keyboard warrior?

Jose is by far Conors best victory and without it his record isn't much more than above average IMO. Without the Aldo KO his next best win is short notice Mendes and he got that fight after beating #9 ranked Siver (lol).

McG is awesome, big fan here but to refer to Aldo as a KBW is retarded. Without Jose being so dominant at FW for so long Conor beating him in 13 seconds wouldn't be so impressive, give credit where due I'd say.
You read WAY too far into things. Never once said Jose wasn't a great fighter, never once made light of his accomplishments and status in the sport. That's something you're projecting on me, not something I even came close to insinuating.

I've isolated my criticism of him to his behaviour as of late, which any reasonable mind would agree was foolish and petty at best. As a big fan of Aldo's for years, I've been pretty disappointed in him lately.

I haven't said anything about him that wasn't without merit. Feel free to quote anything I've said that you think is unreasonable or a "smear campaign" lol. You seem to enjoy labeling those with a differing view point as "nuthuggers" or "haters", which is kind of weak imo hahaha
 

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You read WAY too far into things. Never once said Jose wasn't a great fighter, never once made light of his accomplishments and status in the sport. That's something you're projecting on me, not something I even came close to insinuating.

I've isolated my criticism of him to his behaviour as of late, which any reasonable mind would agree was foolish and petty at best. As a big fan of Aldo's for years, I've been pretty disappointed in him lately.

I haven't said anything about him that wasn't without merit. Feel free to quote anything I've said that you think is unreasonable or a "smear campaign" lol. You seem to enjoy labeling those with a differing view point as "nuthuggers" or "haters", which is kind of weak imo hahaha
Nope. Only one I've accussed of hugging but was you about Dana and that was a light hearted joke thread, wasn't to be taken seriously. I've actually posted several times in other threads that I also find that tactic weak similar to you.

I don't know what I'm reading way too much into, you posted that Aldo is a keyboard warrior and have jumped into most threads to criticize him as they pop up. As I said some of your point are valid, just not the keyboard warrior thing.
 

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What do you mean by every now and again? Because all I can think of is the Mendes fight, where he recovered in a split second. I don't think the second Mendes fight is a reflection of Aldo being at the end of his career. I saw it as two great fighters having a close fight.

I think you're mixing up post fight conversations with pre-fight conversations, tbh. Maybe a few guys were talking about some of these out of prime hypotheticals pre-McGregor, but there wasn't any basis for it.
We're going to have to agree to disagree because I'm not going to do the footwork required to prove my point, which wasn't a breakdown of Aldo's career, but a comment about what was being discussed on MMA message boards prior to the fight(s). I'm not mixing anything up by the way, and I'm an Aldo fan who picked him to beat McGregor, so I was in the mix (going back and forth with other MMA fans) prior to both fight dates. As a fan I didn't think he looked prime in either the Lamas fight or the rematch with Mendes, but I still felt he had more than enough left to get past McGregor. That's neither here nor there as far as this thread goes.
 

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I don't know what I'm reading way too much into, you posted that Aldo is a keyboard warrior and have jumped into most threads to criticize him as they pop up. As I said some of your point are valid, just not the keyboard warrior thing.
The keyboard warrior remark was in reference to an isolated instance/behaviour. It's silly for you or anyone else to take it as a complete dismissal of Aldo as a fighter. That's what you're reading too much into.

All I've smashed him on was not taking the fight with Conor even though he was supposedly training in anticipation for it (valid), him laughing at McGregor and celebrating another man's victory when he turned down the fight (valid), and claiming McGregor had no power and "soap hands" when Conor knocked him unconscious in 13 seconds (valid). I can't remember smashing Aldo about anything other than that, and I CERTAINLY never tried to discredit his career or his worth as a fighter.
 

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The keyboard warrior remark was in reference to an isolated instance/behaviour. It's silly for you or anyone else to take it as a complete dismissal of Aldo as a fighter. That's what you're reading too much into.

All I've smashed him on was not taking the fight with Conor even though he was supposedly training in anticipation for it (valid), him laughing at McGregor and celebrating another man's victory when he turned down the fight (valid), and claiming McGregor had no power and "soap hands" when Conor knocked him unconscious in 13 seconds (valid). I can't remember smashing Aldo about anything other than that, and I CERTAINLY never tried to discredit his career or his worth as a fighter.
Then it sounds like we are on the same page. TMMAC as a whole accepts your public apology about the KBW remark
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No, no rematch is needed. He beat them all soundly. Edgar would make sense. But is that the number one guy really? or Aldo? Who would win?

If Aldo would have rested up for a year, it would all fall into place. But Aldo has made known that he wants that match now. So bitch about him. he calls the shots right now, he deserves his rematch.

And as for short camp talk, if you sign that contract, you have acknowledged that you were ready to go in that cage. That is how that works. All talk after is just talk. Like you are doing.
they should do Edgar/Conor if he wins then Conor/Aldo 2. You can promote the Edgar fight a lot better. You cannot win an argument saying a week or 2 week camp is equally as good or better than a 6-8 week camp. if you do, I have a bridge that can fly and makes its money.

Are you worried that a full camp Mendes would perform better vs Conor? after now that its pretty clear Conor doesn't really have a jab for the most part(pointed out by Jack Slack), Edgar can possibly be a dangerous fight.

You can tell me, if Edgar worries you for Conor. it's ok to let it.
 

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they should do Edgar/Conor if he wins then Conor/Aldo 2. You can promote the Edgar fight a lot better. You cannot win an argument saying a week or 2 week camp is equally as good or better than a 6-8 week camp. if you do, I have a bridge that can fly and makes its money.

Are you worried that a full camp Mendes would perform better vs Conor? after now that its pretty clear Conor doesn't really have a jab for the most part(pointed out by Jack Slack), Edgar can possibly be a dangerous fight.

You can tell me, if Edgar worries you for Conor. it's ok to let it.
I am not worried man. I don't know why I should be worried, it's not me in that cage.

I am an Aldo fan, an Edgar fan, and a McGregor fan, so win-win for me all the way. I don't always like their decisions, but when these guys lose I don't lose any respect for them.

While a camp of two weeks makes a huge difference in contrast with a full camp, you still have the option to NOT take the fight as a fighter. That is all I am saying. Of course a full camp is better than 2 weeks (Did I argue any different?). But don't take the fight with that as a crutch in case you lose, not a good look. I didn't see Aldo make excuses, never seen Edgar making excuses, or Conor for that matter. It takes away from the victor.

And I am not trying to win an argument here, I am just stating that I refuse to rationalize and diminish someone's accomplishments just because of one loss. I am a big Machida fan, get the point? Just presenting my point of view, with further clarification if need be.