Filmmaker murdered over this movie... Full length rough cut of Gray State
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Thanks, will watch later.
Cliffnotes?
Not quite cliffs, but: http://wtfrly.com/2015/01/19/writer...ay-state-dead-in-murder-suicide/#.VMMh5ixjbpU
"The lead writer of a controversial movie was found dead along with his wife and daughter in a Minnesota home Saturday afternoon. Officers went to the house Saturday after a neighbor called to report bodies inside. Three people were found dead and have been identified as screenwriter David Crowley, his wife, Komel, 28, and their 5-year-old daughter"
"A statement from Apple Valley police Sunday morning said the case would be considered “an apparent murder-suicide†and the deaths would be investigated as suspicious."
"The lead writer of a controversial movie was found dead along with his wife and daughter in a Minnesota home Saturday afternoon. Officers went to the house Saturday after a neighbor called to report bodies inside. Three people were found dead and have been identified as screenwriter David Crowley, his wife, Komel, 28, and their 5-year-old daughter"
"A statement from Apple Valley police Sunday morning said the case would be considered “an apparent murder-suicide†and the deaths would be investigated as suspicious."
I am not so certain that this man was murdered by the shadow government because he made a low budget movie that no one was going to see. The headlines stating that a "movie director" was murdered are slightly misleading when we consider that he had made a very cheap movie on his home computer, which would at best have been shown via youtube to a limited audience. Movies about the USA being under Martial Law are common, and if anything, the theme of Grey State would have served as a way of conditioning people to accept the idea.
I see no foul play in this incident, there are many unstable people in this world and perhaps David Crowley was one of them.
I see no foul play in this incident, there are many unstable people in this world and perhaps David Crowley was one of them.
That's what they're saying in the papers and whatnot.
I'm 1 hr 46 mins in.
Very provoking, lowest common-denominator angry anti-authority tone... lotsa Alex Jonesy type spokespeople, very little real facts or sophisticated evidence. Just a lotta fear-mongering and cop-hating so far.
Some good basic realities for people to be aware of, but imho a counter-productive tone; this vid, and the hype around the filmmaker's death has the potential to backfire, in that it could charge up a bunch of yokels to start going all militia, which is only more reason to continue beefing up security (big theme of the vid)
Sometimes I wonder if a half-assed rebellion is being aroused... much of what we see today imo is the creation of 'enemies' by playing off people's (justified) angers, then using them as a reason to go kick more ass
I'll finish it up but not really impressed so far. Nothing that AJ wasn't yelling about 10 years ago
Very provoking, lowest common-denominator angry anti-authority tone... lotsa Alex Jonesy type spokespeople, very little real facts or sophisticated evidence. Just a lotta fear-mongering and cop-hating so far.
Some good basic realities for people to be aware of, but imho a counter-productive tone; this vid, and the hype around the filmmaker's death has the potential to backfire, in that it could charge up a bunch of yokels to start going all militia, which is only more reason to continue beefing up security (big theme of the vid)
Sometimes I wonder if a half-assed rebellion is being aroused... much of what we see today imo is the creation of 'enemies' by playing off people's (justified) angers, then using them as a reason to go kick more ass
I'll finish it up but not really impressed so far. Nothing that AJ wasn't yelling about 10 years ago
Agreed
agreed
Alex Jones is bullshit, by the way. Lot of red flags with that guy.
^ for the same reasons imo
He only angers people up, fuels anger fear and hatred, and then lets us all fester about it and do nothing. Its unproductive energy.
I've also heard how he avoids the Zionist angle of things, etc... and can totally see him being allowed as a form of controlled opposition... however I do appreciate what he did with films like Obama deception... he really opened a lot of eyes. But basically even if he is an honest revolutionary, imo its the wrong method. Unless we actually want to come to battle and try to physically overthrow the government with guns, AJ's speeches are only adding to the sickness, and not lifting us out
We need POSITIVE leaders. Creative energy not destructive. Same with this film. Maybe it has an up ending, I dunno... kind of hard to endure another 50 mins of it lol
He only angers people up, fuels anger fear and hatred, and then lets us all fester about it and do nothing. Its unproductive energy.
I've also heard how he avoids the Zionist angle of things, etc... and can totally see him being allowed as a form of controlled opposition... however I do appreciate what he did with films like Obama deception... he really opened a lot of eyes. But basically even if he is an honest revolutionary, imo its the wrong method. Unless we actually want to come to battle and try to physically overthrow the government with guns, AJ's speeches are only adding to the sickness, and not lifting us out
We need POSITIVE leaders. Creative energy not destructive. Same with this film. Maybe it has an up ending, I dunno... kind of hard to endure another 50 mins of it lol
Hrrrm, this string of logic is interesting. Even I get pretty caught up in buying into/ dismissing particular media based on what I THINK is the intent. This is in spite of my attempt at open mindedness and getting multiple sources on the topic. I would still fall into a false flag trap emotionally I bet...and I'm concerned what that could do to someone with a lot more vitriol and violence in their lives.Masato Toys;n7360 said:
Pulling the plug @ 2:21:00
That was the bleakest shit I've seen in a long time; so dark, so fear-inducing... get ready for hopeless hellish apocalypse - everyone needs to go Mad Max etc
The only interesting bit was to see the singer from the Red Hot Chili Peppers pledging to serve Obama. WTF
What happened to THIS, man???
[video=youtube;lCoWylbgGlw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCoWylbgGlw[/video]
That was the bleakest shit I've seen in a long time; so dark, so fear-inducing... get ready for hopeless hellish apocalypse - everyone needs to go Mad Max etc
The only interesting bit was to see the singer from the Red Hot Chili Peppers pledging to serve Obama. WTF
What happened to THIS, man???
[video=youtube;lCoWylbgGlw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCoWylbgGlw[/video]
I get why people buy guns and hunker down like that. It's an expression of a lack of faith in their fellow man. I guess it depends on where you live as to whether that's a good idea or not. I think the really big cities are going to get hit the worst.
It's hard to imagine a purely creative solution, though. You can't explain the anatomic reality of the creative process without mentioning that the fluoride in the water supply is calcifying on people's pineal glands and causing them to be psychologically and spiritually retarded.Masato Toys;n7360 said:
That's what's missing imo. Real solutions will require a jump in consciousness, all new creative thinking. How much fluoride is stopping us from doing that remains to be determinedFreddy Retro;n7529 said:
I do agree on the other hand that there is some value in this kind of alarmist CT presentation, in that eventually, if we want change there will be no getting around some final turn of attention towards the ruling class, and putting them all up for complete investigations/audits/trials/interrogation. Riling the people up to stop believing their shit and refusing to accept it anymore I suppose is a necessary step, and maybe films like this are good for simply making people aware, and perhaps a degree of anger is needed.
Who knows. Perhaps we need both pacifists AND warriors to achieve it. Each must play their part as they see fit.
I think some time in 2015. I could be mistaken though.shimora;n8066 said:
