Tony Ferguson says he received less than half his contracted UFC 209 show money

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If I'm contracted to do a job and I show up unable to do it you better believe I'll get sued. A fighter knows the weight they have to be months ahead of time and it's part of their job to be that weight.

Missing weight is the most classless, insulting thing you can do. And in some cases (like ferguson) it costs the other fighter a lot of money. If there was a one miss no penalty rule that's fine but for repeat offenders why shouldn't there be consequences?
respectfully disagree. i dont think they should be sued. their long-term health is on the line, so fighters should have the ability to "call out sick" more than most jobs imo

the downside of repeat offenders is that the promotion will drop them

i definitely agree that weight cutting is an issue tho (for fights, fans, and promoters alike)
 

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respectfully disagree. i dont think they should be sued. their long-term health is on the line, so fighters should have the ability to "call out sick" more than most jobs imo

the downside of repeat offenders is that the promotion will drop them

i definitely agree that weight cutting is an issue tho (for fights, fans, and promoters alike)
They have a timeline.....they need to prepare....if they "isn't" prepared then they will know leading up to it and can back out.

How many times has jim Miller missed weight? Not once

I'm going to tweet him as I listen to him, his dad and his brother on that podcast and they make me laugh....interested in his thoughts.
 

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Leigh @Leigh did you ever miss weight?

Is it acceptable to miss weight?

How difficult is it to cut weight? ECC170 @ECC170
No. But I have mangled myself making weight. Missing is not acceptable. However, with everyone cutting 15lbs minimum, it's kind of compulsory if you don't want a disadvantage and not everyone is good at it.

The difficulty in cutting weight depends on how much you're cutting and how experienced you are. I've outlined the process here before, including rehydration.
 

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They have a timeline.....they need to prepare....if they "isn't" prepared then they will know leading up to it and can back out.

How many times has jim Miller missed weight? Not once

I'm going to tweet him as I listen to him, his dad and his brother on that podcast and they make me laugh....interested in his thoughts.
But to play devils advocate, jim will admit that fgjters don't make the best choices for themselves. He shouldn't have fought5 thiago alves for example. And dan wss telling him that. But jim is all amped up and wants to fight so he did anyway

But he was on a wining streak. Then the dude shows up overweight. When it comes down to it, the promotion doesn't care that thiago missed weight. Theyd have actually liked it if he bullied his opponent and got a TKO

Its not tje same example as missing weight. But im just trying to say that fighters interests and promoters interests aren't always aligned.

Def comment if Ur ever listening. It's usually just me and my sister live lol. I'm actually meeting today with their partnerx friend and sound guy pat today to brainstorm shit. I have ideas for them. And I also want dan and Jim to collab wit me for my own channel as well as pat fora bunch of shit since we share alot of hobbies
 

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Def comment if Ur ever listening. It's usually just me and my sister live lol. I'm actually meeting with their partnerx friend and sound guy pat today to brainstorm shit. I have ideas for them. And I also want dan and Jim to collab wit me for my own channel as well as pat fora bunch of shit since we share alot of hobbies
Jim sounds like a relatively grounded individual......if he says, "I'm fighting" i would struggle to argue with him and expect to win.....

Please explain the above comment....
 

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Jim sounds like a relatively grounded individual......if he says, "I'm fighting" i would struggle to argue with him and expect to win.....

Please explain the above comment....
Im saying if Ur listening live (on fb) say waddup to me in th3 chat. Usually, it's only a few people listening live, including me and my sister. I know Ur more of an iTunes dudes tho

I asK questions. Often Jim will ask pat who asked the question and then say "stop asking dumb questions kev" lol

Pat is also on the podcast with them. He's one of dans classmates. Grade above me. He's like them. Into jj, hunting, fishing etc. But he's secretly like me. Into gme of thrones, westworld etc. And he's a natural on the mic.funny dude imo. So I want him to do reviews with me after some shows. It'll be so easy to record a 20 min post show convo instead of me splicing together some detailed analysis video that takes hours

Also, I have ideas for their plan of attack based off of what I'd be doing if I were them. Starting wirh using youtube as well. And additionally, branching off to include other forms of videos aside from podcast: highlights of the podcast for people who want shorter vids or were busy that week, occaisonal big mma news related short videos, some viral tye evergreen video ideas, maybe a personal ufc countdown episodes like joe lauzonn does. and I'd even recommend doing a monthly sort of "show" similar to dana whites looking for a fighter. Where they splice together a 15 20.min video of whatever the month entailed in terms of training coaching, personal hunting and fishing and thn highlights from adventures they do wirh hunting pros
 

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Im saying if Ur listening live (on fb) say waddup to me in th3 chat. Usually, it's only a few people listening live, including me and my sister. I know Ur more of an iTunes dudes tho

I asK questions. Often Jim will ask pat who asked the question and then say "stop asking dumb questions kev" lol

Pat is also on the podcast with them. He's one of dans classmates. Grade above me. He's like them. Into jj, hunting, fishing etc. But he's secretly like me. Into gme of thrones, westworld etc. And he's a natural on the mic.funny dude imo. So I want him to do reviews with me after some shows. It'll be so easy to record a 20 min post show convo instead of me splicing together some detailed analysis video that takes hours

Also, I have ideas for their plan of attack based off of what I'd be doing if I were them. Starting wirh using youtube as well. And additionally, branching off to include other forms of videos aside from podcast: highlights of the podcast for people who want shorter vids or were busy that week, occaisonal big mma news related short videos, some viral tye evergreen video ideas, maybe a personal ufc countdown episodes like joe lauzonn does. and I'd even recommend doing a monthly sort of "show" similar to dana whites looking for a fighter. Where they splice together a 15 20.min video of whatever the month entailed in terms of training coaching, personal hunting and fishing and thn highlights from adventures they do wirh hunting pros
You're correct about iTunes with me....what time is it live and also day so I can chime in on Facebook?
 

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You're correct about iTunes with me....what time is it live and also day so I can chime in on Facebook?
Oh yeh i forgot. U totally can't do it live. They used to do mon/fri at 9pm EST. But now it's just Fridays. But that's 4am for u lol. Grantedx sometimes they go on an hour or 2 late. But that's a side note that I'm going to harp on them for. To be professional, the need to be consistent or else they'll never build loyal weekly listeners
 
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I like Luke but sometimes he comes awfully close to schilling for Egg and company.
He got on my nerves with his comment about how Nate's movie deal with Cube and
how the UFC tried to fuck him out of it was basically not a big deal because the movie
was shit anyway.

So since Nate didn't ink a Star Wars major block buster
its perfectly fine for the UFC to fuck him out of it?

Cmon Luke... You're better then that
 

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Didn't he still walk away with $100,000+ without even having to risk a L on his record?

Easy day in the office.
 

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Didn't he still walk away with $100,000+ without even having to risk a L on his record?

Easy day in the office.
You just don't get it man. He was there to fight and to win despite the risk to his health. He wasn't there to just pick up 100K.
 

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It's pretty clear: he showed up ready to fight. That's why they call it "show" money.

Pay the man!
 
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Isn't there any kind of insurance policy in the event of medical emergencies or doctor's rulings against a fighter competing? It seems like, if I can think of it then the people with the money should be able to do the same.
 

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You just don't get it man. He was there to fight and to win despite the risk to his health. He wasn't there to just pick up 100K.
I mean.. I get it, I just have a different opinion. I think 100k is fair compensation when you don't even have to fight. It isn't like he was in an easy gimme fight, that fight would have been a grueling back and forth war most likely. He saved his brain and body the trauma it would have taken. He could have lost and had his hype-train derailed, but instead, he didn't even have to compete and basically is the assumed interim champion at this point. He is still 100% healthy and ready to fight, having taken zero damage, all while being 100k richer.