Demetrious Johnson blasts UFC: Dana White threatened to 'get rid of entire flyweight division'

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ShakaSway

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As much as I would like DJ to fight Teej, would also like him to get paid for it. Also Dana may not win this one, DJ has a lot of power in just not signing unless given what he's due

They may strip him, but that'd be kinda redokulous

They close the division down, thatd be a big deal for about a month and a couple weeks
 

KWingJitsu

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Nov 15, 2015
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irrelevant if you are a champion, you should have no say and fight anybody they put in front of you. that is why you are a champion, king of the hill. the squabbling and cajoling and trying to pick your own opponents devalues the belt completely and you no longer deserve to hold it.
Shouldn't it work both ways?

Why should the UFC have the 'right' to cancel fights they feel like (GSP/Bisping) and be able to force fights that don't make sense (Tj/DJ)?
Yet, will do ANYTHING McGregor wants just cos he asked? DJ is a greater fighter than McGregor...
 
Nov 21, 2015
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DJ should be stripped of his belt immediately. All the money he's been paid
for fights should be clawed back and paid back to the UFC. DJ's fights in the UFC
should be removed from the record books and his name removed from the roster.

He clearly has failed to be himself and be Conor Mcgregor.

The company wants "winners"! They DON'T want Champions that
defend their belts 10 times in a row. They want winners!

Get it through your head DJ

Either be yourself and be Conor or GTFO
 
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ChaosOverkill

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Not a fan of Mighty Mouse the guy but this one is just more Dana douche crap. He revels in playing "Mob leg breaker" tough guy generated by who he knew.

The promotion has failed to make MMA the attraction so he has to threaten and extort fighters who want to negotiate better deals or don't want sudden changes.

On the other hand it would look extra special to set the record for defenses with TJ and Mighty Mouse could use the image bump and feather in the cap so he should want that fight, but I don't begrudge him negotiating a better PPV deal for it or setting the record his own way essentially coasting through it, he's won the fights that were there for him.

However, setting that record on 125lb competition that was cleaned out in and around the Cariaso fiasco will look ridiculous and is still also the UFC's failure to market and create hype with anything other than situations handed to them.
 

jason73

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Fuck that.mighty mouse is the longest reigning champ they have .dana has zero respect for the guy.typical dana cunty bullshit.pay the man what he is worth. He is not a star? Who is responsible for promoting him? Fuckin dana thats who.the little guy wins fights and has a twitch following.what more should he be doing? Start some fake drama ?trow a wayter bottle at someone? Dana needs to do his job and promote him
 

Onetrickpony

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Not a fan of Mighty Mouse the guy but this one is just more Dana douche crap. He revels in playing "Mob leg breaker" tough guy generated by who he knew.

The promotion has failed to make MMA the attraction so he has to threaten and extort fighters who want to negotiate better deals or don't want sudden changes.

On the other hand it would look extra special to set the record for defenses with TJ and Mighty Mouse could use the image bump and feather in the cap so he should want that fight, but I don't begrudge him negotiating a better PPV deal for it or setting the record his own way essentially coasting through it, he's won the fights that were there for him.

However, setting that record on 125lb competition that was cleaned out in and around the Cariaso fiasco will look ridiculous and is still also the UFC's failure to market and create hype with anything other than situations handed to them.
I think he's doing the record for himself not the UFC and not the fans. Anderson had a lot of filler in his title defences and when people talk about the record no one is saying shit about that. The fact that he wanted Cody for this fight and the UFC forced Borg on him shows that he isn't running from anyone but is fed up with the bullshit and refuses to suffer the fools in the UFC management any longer.

Dana wanted Mouse to move the needle and be more like Connor, well now he went and fucking did it. But unfortunately for the UFC not in the obedient way they wanted.
 

Grateful Dude

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Just listed to the MMAHour interview, and I'm 100% in support of DJ on this. Years ago I actually used to enjoy Dana. I liked that he was brash and spoke his mind if he didn't agree with a fighter or interviewer, etc. But he's just a raging egomaniacal cunt these days. He's been able to get shit done using bully tactics for far too long.

Threatening to scrap the whole division is such a petty and juvenile reaction to a situation that could've easily been handled better.
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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Story or no story . He is a champion but not a star. So just fucking fight TJ and shut the fook up.
DJ is way more star than TJ.

DJ has ton of following from twitch and other videogame sponsorships. TJ barely gets recognized by anyone other than hardcore fans.
 

kneeblock

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Isn't it weird how dominant champs like Anderson, Jones and now DJ are always PPV undersellers when they're humble? Maybe the problem is the fans.
 

Wild

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Isn't it weird how dominant champs like Anderson, Jones and now DJ are always PPV undersellers when they're humble? Maybe the problem is the fans.
The fans are definitely the problem. Being exposed to them on social media for this site has opened my eyes to just how many delusional twats there are that casually follow this sport.
 

WineDineSixty-Nine

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Dana white's job is not to grow or manage the sport in a responsible manner any longer. His new job is to cut costs everywhere he can. He will cajole, manipulate, harangue,bully,lie and do what're else he can to get profits for the short term. The only thing he cares about is getting his payout from his Hollywood masters. Which is why I support fighters finally looking out for their own best interests and telling him to go fuck himself.
 

soundoff71

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If fucktard BLAF & the other boardroom fuckboys do close down the motherfucking division, then they just invested millions into Bellator, ONE FC, or whatever promotion picks up the DJ and the rest of the 125'ers. Between TUF and whatever other un-creative schemes they've managed to cook up, it's probably at least in the tens of millions.

And people still think that BLAF is some kind of genius. I've said it a bunch of times before: he's a moron who was lucky enough to fail forward with TUF (which he was against) and be at the right place at the right time with the right mob connections.

The fact that the bloviating windbag Egg hasn't said anything says plenty. He boxed himself in a corner. Now, no matter what he does, he loses. He loses DJ, the division, or face. You know what I say?

 
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Howard Moon

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Now, no matter what he does, he loses. He loses, DJ, the division, or face.
I understand that some hardcore fans appreciate DJ and the Flyweights(name for a frathouse band, maybe?), but can anybody honestly see making money with them?

They are a fringe division of a fringe sport. UFC, Bellator, and the rest are not in the MMA business, they are in the money business.
You can market a once in a generation personality like McGregor, but as a general rule, convincing the public to spend their entertainment dollars on smaller guys, and especially 125 LBers is very tough sell. So if you are a promoter, why bother when there are more easily marketed divisions?
The suits in charge and their Egg don't give a fuck about DJ's legacy or the integrity of the sport. They care about maximizing ROI, and apparently Flyweights don't accomplish that.
 

Wintermute

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DJ should be stripped of his belt immediately. All the money he's been paid
for fights should be clawed back and paid back to the UFC. DJ's fights in the UFC
should be removed from the record books and his name removed from the roster.

He clearly has failed to be himself and be Conor Mcgregor.

The company wants "winners"! They DON'T want Champions that
defend their belts 10 times in a row. They want winners!

Get it through your head DJ

Either be yourself and be Conor or GTFO
I don't understand these sentences.
 

Team Bisping

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I'm disgusted for Mighty Mouse, he's put everything into this sport, gone on to become one of the greatest, and he's given the ultimatum of Fight or have your division scrapped. Fucking disgusting.

Also, MM hasn't declined to fight, he asked TJ to get a fight at that weight, or fight him and give up his purse if he don't make weight and fight is scrapped. Not unreasonable.

Seriously disgusting shit to treat someone who is a fucking gentleman like that. MM is a credit to the sport, many of his fights he could of coasted to a majority decision like many fighters do, but no, he turned himself into a fucking killer to appease fans and the UFC.

He's too good for the UFC at this point and it's no wonder Conor or Ronda don't want anything do to with that noise atm. It's vile, and headed by an egomaniac.

Dana can be praised for helping build the UFC, but now it's overtaken him and he's the fucking dinosaur in the room.
 

lueVelvet

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You know, whenever I tell people MM is 125lbs (more like 135-145 on fight night?) they have a hard time believing that when watching him perform on the screen. They don't look as small as they are in that cage and if marketing correctly the smaller weight class fighters would be just as popular as anyone else (of course with the notable exceptions) IMHO.

Maybe the numbers aren't there for the UFC to justify pushing them more but if they did push them more I think they would see the numbers go up. MM is a consummate professional and athlete and can easily be marketed out in so many ways that it's a no brainer.

The UFC forgot the age ole adage of, "You have to spend money to make money"
 

soundoff71

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I understand that some hardcore fans appreciate DJ and the Flyweights(name for a frathouse band, maybe?), but can anybody honestly see making money with them?
The UFC has a record-breaking GOAT they won't promote. (How's that for a slogan?) They could be making more money off of him and off of the division if they promoted it right. McGregor's & Rousey's don't grow on trees. McGregor had (HAD, as in, I think Conor's done with MMA) a cool accent, an entire country behind him, and skills to back it up. Rousey (she's probably done, too) was a pioneer & we had never seen anything like her before.

What are Egg & the suits supposed to do? Wait for the next big thing to catch fire? Will they drop the women's bantamweight division cause Nunes doesn't sell as much as Rousey did?

They need to put more effort into promoting the fighters and athletes. You've got a record-breaking fighter who's usually fun to watch. He has a whole other following in the gaming community. Will he make as much as their biggest stars? No. Can they make more $$$ off of him? Yes.

They'll lose more if DJ & the Flyweights go to another org & bring in fans cause casuals saw them promoted on FOX or TUF. And like I said, at the very least, BLAF loses face. Now more fighters are speaking out & will continue to do so. It's a lose-lose. BLAF fucked up (again).
 
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